Why Ragini's convo with her dad was necessary

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi all,

OK thanks to the great UPDATES! (props up to you all out there who were doing WONDERFUL JOB updating and all the Bidaai forum members for the discussions I was able to keep up with the episodes 👏 even though I didn't really watch them all)

Today I saw the episode and here is why I think Ragini's Rude Behavior towards her father was necessary

As we all saw in the SBS update that Ragini finds out about the reason behind why Sadhna participated in the dance competition.

Ragini will realize that what she "accused" her father (of favoring sadhana and giving her more love) is not true but should have been true.

Because , aulaad tho har kisi ke hothay hain , lekin sachi punji woh hothi hai jo sahih mainay main uskay ma baap kay sanskar ko agay badaay.

It was Sadhana who lived up to Mamaji's adharsh and sanskar

Thus Ragini will realize that truly Sadhana is the daughter in true sense , to mamaji.

So that dialogue delivery was of immense importance and was necessary.

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For everyone who were saying that why dosen't sadhana just tell everyone where she got the money,
well its not really about telling the truth or trying to be mahan.

Reality is, because Sadhana didn't tell she understood how weak Alekh is. A husband needs to stand up for his wife. Alekh was never a husband to sadhana he was always a good friend. Friends stand up for their friends against wrong and that is what he did.

So now that he is normal, he needs to answer his own statement , when Sadhana came back to him he said I married you when I was abnormal and she asked now that you are normal would you consider me your wife (along those lines) ...

Alekh needs to realize this.

If sadhana told Alekh everything he would go storming against his mum and bring back sadhna due to stubbornness.

So what about Vasu and Sadhana's relationship then? Alekh would be romantic/husbandly with her for few hours a day but the rest of the day she will be stuck in the house with Vasu. Do we really want a saas bahu saga? OH BOY NO!

We want a strong Alekh with positive attitude who understands Sadhana and marries her for love and we want Sadhana to go into the house with respect with the approval of Vasu like how Ranveer did for Ragini.

So I say, good going creatives!
I saw yehrishta today and I have to say bidaai creatives need a pay raise ! lol

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nice Analysis......
After all this Alekh doesnot deserve Sadhana.
Posted: 15 years ago
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That's a really good anaylsis. I never thought of it that way. Even though I think Ragini was way too rude and all that rudeness wasn't necessary, what you said makes sense.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: suchitra_1

Hi all,

OK thanks to the great UPDATES! (props up to you all out there who were doing WONDERFUL JOB updating and all the Bidaai forum members for the discussions I was able to keep up with the episodes 👏 even though I didn't really watch them all)

Today I saw the episode and here is why I think Ragini's Rude Behavior towards her father was necessary

As we all saw in the SBS update that Ragini finds out about the reason behind why Sadhna participated in the dance competition.

Ragini will realize that what she "accused" her father (of favoring sadhana and giving her more love) is not true but should have been true.

Because , aulaad tho har kisi ke hothay hain , lekin sachi punji woh hothi hai jo sahih mainay main uskay ma baap kay sanskar ko agay badaay.

It was Sadhana who lived up to Mamaji's adharsh and sanskar

Thus Ragini will realize that truly Sadhana is the daughter in true sense , to mamaji.

So that dialogue delivery was of immense importance and was necessary.

======
For everyone who were saying that why dosen't sadhana just tell everyone where she got the money,
well its not really about telling the truth or trying to be mahan.

Reality is, because Sadhana didn't tell she understood how weak Alekh is. A husband needs to stand up for his wife. Alekh was never a husband to sadhana he was always a good friend. Friends stand up for their friends against wrong and that is what he did.

So now that he is normal, he needs to answer his own statement , when Sadhana came back to him he said I married you when I was abnormal and she asked now that you are normal would you consider me your wife (along those lines) ...

Alekh needs to realize this.

If sadhana told Alekh everything he would go storming against his mum and bring back sadhna due to stubbornness.

So what about Vasu and Sadhana's relationship then? Alekh would be romantic/husbandly with her for few hours a day but the rest of the day she will be stuck in the house with Vasu. Do we really want a saas bahu saga? OH BOY NO!

We want a strong Alekh with positive attitude who understands Sadhana and marries her for love and we want Sadhana to go into the house with respect with the approval of Vasu like how Ranveer did for Ragini.

So I say, good going creatives!
I saw yehrishta today and I have to say bidaai creatives need a pay raise ! lol



@ red. i totlly agree, yeh rishta is going down the toilet so to speak, am i the only one who thinks it was waaaay better b4 akshi got married, wot r they trying to show? back to bidaai it would be really good if ragini get's to realise everything by herself, but most of the time they drag a track n the conclusion don't live up to pa which is relly dissapointing like the jail track, neway ragini's redeemption really in my opinion will be ok but they really did a number on her character, so she is gonna start realising her mistkes by the evidence she is gonna find n hear, which reminds me of akshara when she asked naitik once if there wont be witnesses or evidence before him wot then will he just trust her (akshara)? which i think also applies to ragini, cos ranveer or mamaji don't need anything to trust or believe sadha, but it seems ragini does. again my pov didn't mean do offend nebody
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I KNOW! lets not even discuss Yehrishta... I cannot digest it.

but your point is valid...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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actually this is a real-life scenario, Suchitra..if the man in between the saas and bahu has a backbone and provides a neutral perspective, many of our society's problems will be saved...

themain concept the show is trying to prove is "actions speak louder than words"...Mamaji has accepted and believed right from day one that he has three children, but for others in the family, Sadhna is just an orphan cousin, who has been brought up by mercy...


they will bring back Akshara with the respect she deserves...actually. Alekh-Naitik and Akshara-Sadhna are very comparable jodis...both the wives are immensely good and understanding and the husbands very rigid and fixed, both love their wives but have tremendous ego
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yea exactly.... i dont want sadha to ever go back to that rajvansh jail..... seriously.. everyone is jus waiting to bite her in that house... with the exception of ranvir n inderjeet.... the females are jus horrible and what would she do even if alekh had brought her back.. he would only be with her for a few hours and then shes trappped there the rest of the time... how depressing.... she shouldnt go back until they all beg her...n even when they beg she shouldnt give in so easily... if my saas was ever like vasu i would jus kill myself....

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

<font color="#0000ff">actually.
Alekh-Naitik and Akshara-Sadhna are very comparable jodis...both the
wives are immensely good and understanding and the husbands very rigid
and fixed, both love their wives but have tremendous ego

</font>



Agree!
Alekh we can say that he really dosen't have his own personality yet, he dosen't have a nazaraiyah of zindagi yet.

Naitik I do not want to think about YR lol.

It's the husband's job to provide a balance between his mother and wife.
They both have rights and thus are deserving of them.

I agree with you about Actions Speak LOUDER than words. Sadhana by action has proven that she carries out what PC has taught, truth/sacrifice/selflessness/selfrespect.

Even in today's episode we see PC wants to put the house girvi to return the money (5lakhs) to Vineet's "friend"
this shows he is khudgharz insaan and this is the very reason why
Sadhana : did not tell anyone about the need for the money, she wanted to get it herself. Her khuddari is equal to that of PC

This is also the reason why she let Vinu take the credit cause not for being Mahan, its her khuddari cause she dosen't want anyone thanking her.

Very reason why she took Vasu's offer and didn't breathe a word to anyone about why etc.

And the same reason why she didn't tell Malika that she is Alekh's wife. Malika said that she took her to be a friend ( yeah right) the way she was treating her and speaking down to her, you don't do that to the friends. She never once introduced Sadhana as her friend (where ever she took) she called her , her associate. Malika was upset at sadhana when they visited Rajvansh house for that party cause she saw her coming down from upstairs. Please she ain't no dost, just dikhava...

( off the topic, in reality, I think Malika felt STUPID that a middle class girl could be smart enough to hide such a relationship, so blame game from her)

So you see HUGE similarities between PC character and Sadhana's. He probably did love sadhana more than his own children and thats what sadhana does OVER love whom she cares for

He can go to any lengths to protect those whom he love, same like sadhana

Anywayz, point being, Sadhana is the "soul-daughter" of PC where as Ragini is the biological.
So her dialogue to PC was very much needed cause she herself knows that Sadhana has lived up to the expectations of PC and she herself has kinda not reached to that level. She knows that , if Ragini was put in the situation of sadhana ,she would be crushed and would give up

(note, when ragini was newly married and Vasu was yelling at her, Ragi said to sadi , how do you take all this, thu kis mitti ki bani hai? if it was me I would not be able to cope with this, sadi later goes to vasu to basically make sure that vasu never yells at Ragi)

So thus, Ragi's Convo is a hidden subconscious level acceptance that, yes I have not lived up to your expectations and Sadi has!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very touching analysis, Suchitra and Bani. Totally agree with what you guys are telling. Yes, at times even I felt Sadhna could have told Ragini abt the need for money. But, whatever u guys have analysed is 100% right.

And Ragini followers need not be sad about the comparison. Somehow, I have always felt that the people who are with Sadhna dont let Ragini down. They just compare to tell the devine beauty what Sadhna has. Which holds true even after Ragini realizes her mistakes.
And as Bani says, even I feel Ragini's redemption should happen not just because of the facts and evidence what she gets. Facts and evidences are needed for people who are starting their relationship. But whatever it is even if Ragini realizes her mistakes due to the evidences what she gets then we all want to see her redemption. This is not to insult Ragini. Instead, to make Ragini more strong and devine like Sadhna. Even she can have all the great characters of Sadhna. But, for doing that she needs to repent very badly. We all learn by our mistakes. So if Ragini realizes her fault and redeems herself then no one can change/blackmail her.

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