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Posted: 12 years ago
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But where did anyone in this thread call Bharti an obstacle ?😕

Well at least i never saw her as one . I always saw her as a simple gujrathi girl who let elders take decisions of her future and was unlucky twice in the process . Currently i see her as an extremely unhappy girl , cursing her bad luck of kismet .

Where does the question of her being any obstacle comes in ? Neither did she try to stop the Jai Bhumi relationship like Gayatri nor did she instigate Ansu ba to set those tests . Avni has been bitchy , not Bharti.

The comments on her have been regarding her curtness with Parul and her silently going along with Ansu Ba inspite of knowing that she is setting up impossible tests .

I am ready to give her the benefit of doubt on the latter issue ...but definetey i would like her to speak her mind about not wanting to hanker for an already married man although Ansu Ba succesfully breaks the marraige up . It would develop her character rather than staring at Ansu Ba quietly with tear filled eyes having a glimmer of hope , coz that silence is giving out wrong signals .

The shortness with Parul has been defended with this ...that Parul was too late to sympathize with her and only wrapped up in her son and new bahu so it was natural

to that i say ...was Parul's permission even seeked by the Munim and Bharti or were they satisfied and euphoric with Ansu ba's permission only ? I did not see any one bothering to see what Parul , the boy's mom felt , they just took her for granted . So why is it being expected that Parul should have rushed to placate Bharti instead of rushing to stop her own son from leaving the house and later being worried sick about his wife being purposefully kicked out of the house by her sore and conniving saas ?

The moment the couple has entered the house Parul has only battled to keep them in the house coz her tyrannical saas has not given her a moment's respite but only plotted , vowed revengefully and done villainous set ups . How can it be held against her that she was inconsiderate to Bharti ?😕

Neither do i find Parul selfish , nor do i find Bhumi cheap . Fighting to keep son in the house with a non supportive husband is not being selfish ...for that matter the Munim is only thinking from his POV .

I wouldn't call Bharti selfish too , i would just categorize her as unhappy .

And marrying a guy by falling for him and for a work permit would not be called cheap by me . Some one has to fall first ...the girl or the boy ...here the girl did . So she married him so he should get the work permit ...so ?? Many marraiges all over are being done for green cards , citizenships etc . Was not dowry being given in Bharti's marraige ...was not that cheap ? I have not seen Bhumi having multiple boyfriends , indulging in free sex , having a hippy lifestyle , nothing . There is no rule book that says that a girl should not propose first and she married him only after he got his family's permission , if it was a NO he would have refused and Bhumi would have abided by it . I find nothing cheap or shameful about her love ...i agree that Nans should not have hurried but i definetely wouldn't call her cheap .

Bharti is a lovely girl who deserves more dignity in the show than being shown as hankering after a married man which CVs intend ...they thrive on triangles . I wish for a new lead for her who is handsome and wish to see many romantic moments .






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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: DiehardYMfan

super agree May

even I agree Bharti is not an obstacle...
why should she be??She is only being used by Ansu Baa who wants to achieve her own selfish means...
If you look properly she is not behaving as a vamp (as few ppl on this forum claim) but she is just a normal girl who is heartbroken which leaves her with little choice but a lot of contempt for the Vaishnav family members...a curt reply to Parul was an apt characterisation...
and as for Parul's goodness she is always shown as either a selfish mother or a perfectly devoted housewife ...Instaed of having little of both she changes from one form to other just like a dynamic system...
Parul always had a problem with Bharti being the DIL but with Bhoomi it was no questions asked..I say why???
Where did the worry for Kishan being pressurised vanish even after hearing about the forced marriage due to work permit...
She did not have a thought to spare for Bharti except when she remembers her in front of kishenji..changing Sanskaar with changing times I guess...
But I guess Bhoomi is the worst female characterisation of the show who offers herself rather forces herself on the guy saying mujhse Shaadi karlo tumhe permit mil jayega..thats way too cheap for any girl...no matter how much you love the guy will you ever offer yourself to the guy like that???
If she has so much true Sanskaars to boast of why cant she give it back to Ansu Baa and Jai rather than digesting her crap...
Sanskaar is not only about doing good to others,it is also about standing up for what is right and Bhoomi lacks it in a big way...
It seems her moral sense is restricted to chiding her mom...

bhoomi is not cheap.. even i dont like bhoomi asking jay for so much for thier marriage..but in the end its all fair in love n war as bhoomi very well knew jay loves her..if jay doesnt luv bhoomi then u can define bhoomi as a cheap lady who forces herself on jay..
she was the one who helped jay since beginning even whn she was not in love..she stood by jay at every obstacle of his life. their love was mutual..it was never a one sided love. the girl who helped so much in his obstacle whn she was not in love,it was fair enough for her to help jay even if it is cald forceful as shr deeply luvs him n she knew he loves her..
n jay is not a person who can marry anybody that offers gc or citizenship..neithr bhoomi ..
it doesnt take bhoomi a minute to hit back on all of vaishnav who is giving cold shoulders to her including bharti.. but she never did it not bcoz kishan luv his family but also the innocent n selfless ness of bhoomi's nature.. . she is pure hearted lady who doesnt hold any grudge aginst anybody..be it her mom who opposes her decision..be it ansuba who humilates her every time..rather hitting back , she always try to be nice with all..
parul always wanted jay to marry someone who he like instead of a girl that family choses..even if they choose a girl for him she want jay to marry the girl only whn he like her..she couldnt accept bharti in the beginning as the rishta is fixed forcefully on jay..its not a happy situation. she make sure jay is happy with their decision..for her jay's happiness comes first..thats y she expressed her doubts on ansuba's decision n she confronted ansuba..but parul see bhoomi, she can see her happy son who holds bhoomi's hands in every odd n stand by her side even if he has to question ansuba... she is a mother who wants her son to be happy with the girl she lovef..so thr is no question of parul accepting bhoomi n not accepting bharti.
bharti is not at all vamp here..but every one who r watching jayMi together has this question in their mind why she is not telling ansuba that she dont want to marry a person who is happily married ..that to by breaking their relationship.. if she cant say this to ansuba as the respect that she has for ansuba is bigger if she feel...she can politely say i dont want to break their relationship n make kishan my husband whn he is in love with bhoomi... bharti is hurt now after going thru 2 break ups..but that doesnt give the right for her to go n marry a kishan by breaking his rishta with bhoomi..she should realize this if she has this thought of marrying kishan in her mind
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
People we are forgetting here that this is a Indian daily soap..every character at some point is going to turn negative on the show except the main character (bhoomi).

Also the thing is when you go in a new family as a newly wedded bride...you have to give up a lot (your own family and house in the first place)! Then you have to change yourself according to the new family..believe me i started eating baingan ki sabzi which i hated and never touched at my mom's place...🤢

So the first bahu ketki must have also gone through the same...even after her so many efforts to impress ansu baa and family..she may have never gotten any appreciation form any of the family members as after all she is just a 'bahu' in the family...the same appreciation must have gone to bharti all courtesy ansu baa..for every aarti bharti did did for every floor tile that bharti mopped..ansu baa would have been too much appreciated bharti...

so ketki would have felt ki i am not from this family but i am trying my best to adjust and be a part of this family but still no one is giving a glance at my efforts..whereas bharti has lived in this family since childhood..so she is used to all this..so whats new in this? why so much bhaav to her?

This is the main reason for tiffs between nanad and bhabhi...the bhabhi at times also longs for motherly love from her saas..but never gets it as saas is too busy loving the nanad only..all exclusive rights of motherly affection are only reserved by the saas for her own daughter..

And not all the real life bahu's are god like innocent and pure (like the daily soap good bahu's) ..at least i am not.. we are human we feel hurt , we feel the pain of rejection and long for motherly love all the time..and its natural for us to get jealous of the nanads...as they get all what we want without much effort...and all we want is husband's love and care and also in-laws love and care..

also we are not like ketki and we dont go to the extreme to steal the gold jewellery etc...but i think ketki has the same problem..no one appreciates her and over the years she has become a bitter person..

as far as bharti is concerned she may be angry because she still doesnt know that jay was not properly informed abt their marriage fix up..she still thinks that jay ditched her because of bhoomi and parul supported him ..

About ansu baa...i think if a lot of viewers will show that they are unhappy with her, CV's will make her positive..they will show that ansu baa was testing bhoomi not as per the tests but by the fact that bhoomi tried her best to put her best efforts to pass them. like for now she is asking bharti for help that shows that bhoomi really wants to stay in the family as she loved jay a lot...hopefully this happens...

I am also sure that bharti will ask for the wish to ansu baa to accept bhoomi..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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where Ketki is concerned and seeing her punishment track i feel Ansu ba has been rather tyrannical with all the bahus...she has succeded in hardening them with her discipline and punishments and parikshas . Ketki's harsh punishment will only worsen her . Even Parul constantly says ...'Ab tak main chup rahi' or 'Bas ab aur nahi .' This means all the bahus have suffered except that brainless plump one , she is too devoid of brains to be sensitive to suffering and thus is perpetually happy .😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

where Ketki is concerned and seeing her punishment track i feel Ansu ba has been rather tyrannical with all the bahus...she has succeded in hardening them with her discipline and punishments and parikshas . Ketki's harsh punishment will only worsen her . Even Parul constantly says ...'Ab tak main chup rahi' or 'Bas ab aur nahi .' This means all the bahus have suffered except that brainless plump one , she is too devoid of brains to be sensitive to suffering and thus is perpetually happy .😆

You mean the Ramila😆? Even she has been supressed down hard like a few episodes ago Ansuba pointed a finger at her and said jitna kaha hai utna karo and she went all quiet. However she has this funny silly nature which seems all good inside so I don't think sadness strikes her much
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

You mean the Ramila😆? Even she has been supressed down hard like a few episodes ago Ansuba pointed a finger at her and said jitna kaha hai utna karo and she went all quiet. However she has this funny silly nature which seems all good inside so I don't think sadness strikes her much
[/QUOTEyeah i agree ramila is just happy go lucky..she doesnt think or rather doesnt want to think...but she is not a fool..she has her views and opinions but no one allows her express them propelry she is not as assertive..can understand with the type of husband she has and also the saas she has...

yea n that ketki seems to b a spoiled brat as a child...she wont rest until she gets what she wants...even if it destroys someone else's life...in sasuraal she was given the back bench which she did not like..

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think Ramila and Lily will find their voice through Parul's braveness😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

I think Ramila and Lily will find their voice through Parul's braveness😊

well yea but no one will believe lilly as she is lady ghajini of the show😉😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@koolsadhu100 agree

I dont have any problem with the guy or girl proposing first but look at it this way..Jay already refused her at the party..she was heartbroken after that..Nanz reassured her but after that without any sort of communication she straight went for marriage does not that point towards a rather high degree of desponess..I didnt say Bhoomi is cheap what I said was that her actions categorically spoke of a cheap mindset but I think more than her it was her nani who stimulated her to perform such actions...

her nani could have taken her point across to Jay and made him understand instead she took her straight for marriage didnt that humiliate bhoomi's respect as a woman and more as a person...


as for bharti selling herself with dowry I dont disagree but Bharti has grown up in a village and has been conditioned to believe that all this is natural...moreover she hardly has the guts to defy her elders which bhoomi being a modern US based girl can(she even stood against her own mother)...so u definitely cant compare the two characters in two vast situations with vastly different upbringings,beliefs and background
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@diehard.. everyone has their own story in life...

everyone is correct and just in their own sense...

bhoomi has been raised like a princess by her mom but she was never allowed to take her own decisons in life. She started to love jay., jay did not reciprocate because of his responsibilities towards his family.

Later bhoomi's mom tried to destroy jai's career..for no fault of his but because bhoomi openly declared her love for him without thinking of its ill effects (as she thought her mom would not stoop to this level)..so bhoomi thought jai's only dream was to fulfill ansu baa's vachan and she unknowingly destroyed it..

so bhoomi tried to help jay by trying to find a solicitor to get him a work visa etc but because the time was really less.. bhoomi had this goal that she has to help jay and wen she came to knw abt this marriage loophole she asked nans and also asked jai one more time whether he loves her..and jay reciprocated positively..

nans supported bhoomi because she thought jay is not a bad person..and she wanted to cover up her daughters (gayatri) indecency..

In bhoomi's case bhoomi always put up with her mom's ruling over her but wen her mom's tyranny was going to destroy some else's (jai's) life, she stood against her mom..


Here Bharti is correct in her own sense..since childhood she had accepted the fact that she is a employees daughter in the household. she had accepted the earlier marriage proposal and was ready happily to get married. but because of ketki it was all spoiled.

Then ansu the great promised her jay's hand in marriage..to fix the misshap of ketki..so she was ok with that as well. The only thing i did not understand abt bharti is how can she develop romantic feelings for jay in two days?

also bharti thinks jay ditched her for bhoomi because she thinks jay knew abt ansu's promise abt getting bharti married to jay and jay ditched her for bhoomi..

just dont understand why she now wants jay only? and still has her hopes high that bhoomi would b chucked out and she will get to marry him..

Jay was unaware abt this there was misunderstanding while communicating from either side. This was all thanks to hasu and gang and lilly fui's forgetfulness..

wen parul asked jay on the phone whether he is happy with this marriage decision, she did not specify clearly the name of the bride. Here jay did not clearly specify bhoomi's name and it all created this chaos..


so its no one's fault. but three people they are Ansu baa, Hasu and ketki..

bharti may be at fault if she tries to get jay ...as she clearly knws that he is already legally and spiritually married to bhoomi. So if ansu fails bhoomi and asks her to go away and then if bharti accepts jay then i would not like her at all.

also i would hate jay if he gives another vachan to ansu to leave bhoomi and accept bharti if bhoomi fails the test..

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