Gopi is messed up - Page 5

@KatrinaSalman : There is a thing called looking your part, and the emotions that your character is going through...

Somedays back i had something similar in YHM forum, where Ishita though shown sad thinking that Ruhi is dead, used to dress-up glamourously and how that was wrong cause it didnt convey to me, the pain that Ishita shoudve actually felt, cause of the deep bond that she shared with Ruhi.

Same way, here the actor Devoleena needs to look and speak like her character...and cause Gopi Modi is a Gujurati woman, its jarring to hear the actor speak in a Bengali accent. Devoleena should have taken the care to improve. She wouldve done that, had she been a good actor. Cause she hasnt improved, it shows that she doesnt care...thereby showing the low calibre she has as an actor.

At the least, she couldve shown was no accent at all, so that it wasnt that irritating.

Originally posted by: katrinasalman

If you have seen yesterday's episode, you will know how well Jigar managed the business.😆👏 What experience does he have as an educated person? He has only worked under Ahem as a servant and is 9 to 5 or 10 to 6 person. Business is not like that. One has to work hard day and night to be successful which Ahem was doing. Jigar does not have any knowledge in business but is showing attitude now. I should say even Dhawal has a better understanding about business though he isn't much educated.

Gopi's achar business has been successful. Jigar thinks he is a business tycoon and is the best but then even Ahem was consulting his mom and motabhai before starting a venture. Jigar does not even do that. Yes, it is rightly said. If one can manage the house and family, they can also run the business. Motabhai is the founder but what did Jigar contribute after joining?

Business does not need qualification as such. One needs to have common sense and be practical. There are many richest men in the world who does not have MBA or the bachelors degree but they are business tycoons. Take the example of Lijjat Pappad. What was it 50 years ago & what it is now?

Do you think that Tata or Birla founders were highly educated? But still they are one of the richest men in the world. Even Dhirubhai Ambani has done only matriculation but he too is one of the richest man in the world. What is wrong with these people?

What is Rabri Devi? She is unpad gawar & angoota chhap but she is a political leader. What qualification Narendra Modi has? He was doing tea business. But see where he is today? He has become India's prime minister. These are the real life examples.

Gopi is not as educated as Jigar but she has taken care of achar business as well as managed the house. Jigar is only confined to office and that too he has drowned the company in huge debts.

For Paridhi and Monica, less said the better. Yes, Gopi will take advice from Kokila and Chirag. Even Dr. Krishna will help her from his perspective.

Note: I have quoted the examples of real life business tycoons & the political leaders to support my statement.

The people you quoted are all founders who started small and made it big. But tell me if there's anyone who can manage an already existing mega-business (in loss )and make it big once again. Yes, its possible if that person is experienced and qualified only. Some dumb nut who knows nothing about management let alone business cannot do so, at least in the real world. If that was the case companies would be recruiting illiterate women who run papad and achar business across the country as their CEOs. In SNS world, anything can happen. Maybe Gopi's next deal will be with NASA. Business doesnt need qualified people...really? I guess then all the business schools should close down and let laptop-washing stupid women take up management positions...wow !!! I mean, there's no harm in being a fan of the show but when stupidity is shown, i dont think there's any need to vehemently support it..it wont affect your loyality.

Originally posted by: anjs

Katrina is a bad actor, cause she hasnt learned yet...and for your information she has lost out on good projects majorly cause of that... btw, i dont think she is that good of an actor too. She is around ONLY cause of Salman Khan...and cause she looks pretty.

Sridevi was a good actor cause of her emotions, but even her accent is jarring...esp when she played a Maharashtrian woman and displayed south indian accent in movie 'English Vinglish'

And seriously, these two are your example of great actors ??😲

Great actors are Naseeruddin Shah, Irfan Khan, Pankaj Kapoor, Supriya Pathak... have you seen Hansa's character played by Supriya Pathak... and Rosesh's character played by Rajesh Kumar in Sarabhai versus Sarabhai... Have seen Shahid Kapoor in movie ' Kameene' and 'Udta Punjab'. Have you seen Alia Bhat in movie ' Udta Punjab'.

Great acting is when you forget how the actor is in real life. Look at Barun Sobti as ASR, exactly opposite of how he is in real life... look at Gunjan and Khushi, both played by Sanaya Irani but both are as different as cheese and chalk. And she is no where like the village bought-up hindi spouting Khushi in real life...infact Sanaya herself claims that her hindi is very weak, yet, she used to speak her dialogues in chaste and pure hindi, sometimes her dialogues going into 2-3 pages.

That is called acting... what devoleena is doing is a cheap version of it... She might get projects cause of her pleasant looks. But I wouldnt want to see every Marathi, Tamilian, Punjabi or Sindhi character that she plays, speaking in a BENGALI accent. 😆

Well, tbh, I feel the actors & actresses of old times are much better. Amitabh is the best. Rajesh Khanna had continuous 15 hit films during his days. Many females used to be crazy after him.

Amitabh's dialogues are natural. Even if he glances at the script, he can deliver it naturally. He is not so handsome but his expressions & dialogues are awesome. Among the actresses, it is Hemamalini's acting is impressive in those days. Kaminey Hindi is Mumbai Hindi which Shahid Kapoor played. I agree with you on Barun Sobti and Sanaya Irani's acting is natural. They literally forgot themselves when they act. When I saw IPKKND in hotstar.com, I never found anybody screaming. Not even the person playing the negative role was not screaming. After seeing arshi, I don't think any actors of this generation can match them.

More than Devoleena, it is Rupal Patel who screams. When she screams, it really hurts the ears when I put the ear phones while watching the show in my laptop.

I never said Devo's acting is good but many have accepted her as Gopi. I don't think Giaa could have played dynamic roles. She is more suited for docile roles.

Kajol is also a Bengali and she has got a dark complexion but she is good looking and her acting is also good.

Devoleena is good looking but her dialogues are not natural. Nowadays the directors give more importance to glamour.

Originally posted by: smit123

The people you quoted are all founders who started small and made it big. But tell me if there's anyone who can manage an already existing mega-business (in loss )and make it big once again. Yes, its possible if that person is experienced and qualified only. Some dumb nut who knows nothing about management let alone business cannot do so, at least in the real world. If that was the case companies would be recruiting illiterate women who run papad and achar business across the country as their CEOs. In SNS world, anything can happen. Maybe Gopi's next deal will be with NASA. Business doesnt need qualified people...really? I guess then all the business schools should close down and let laptop-washing stupid women take up management positions...wow !!! I mean, there's no harm in being a fan of the show but when stupidity is shown, i dont think there's any need to vehemently support it..it wont affect your loyality.

Since you have asked me about the established business which incurred a loss & is picking up, it is the Steve Jobs. When that company incurred a huge loss, it affected the entire economy. But the market is picking up. It will take time to come back to the level it has achieved earlier. I give you one more example. My uncle was working in a company at Walchandnagar. (I don't know the company name). That company began to incur losses & many left the job. However, the same company began to make profits as the Management has changed.

I have quoted the examples of the founders as you said that achar business is not a formal one. All other businesses are affected by recession except education & hotel industry.

Yes, Gopi washed the laptop but she also cracked the most important deal in Switzerland though she was illiterate & that is not a small thing. People have the tendency to overlook 100 good things and catch only the negatives. Btw, who does not make mistakes? Gopi is also good at designing & embroidering. So starting a saree business is also not a big deal for her. It is within her reach.

Jigar claims that he has been taking care of business for 5 years but what did he do as a qualified person? That is most important. Rest of them is a b***s**t. If the company has got into huge debts , will Jigar's bookish knowledge come to his rescue? If the business does not work in one way, he should think about starting something creative & innovative for making profits. He won't be able to pay the debts if he incurs a loss. He has only been working under Ahem as a servant. So do you think he will be having that much knowledge about the business? Forget about Kokila & Gopi. Has he even consulted his own father before starting a venture? That is my point.

There is a difference between working under somebody (even if they are related to you) & doing the business independently. When you work under someone or manage only a particular department, you will only be confined to that whereas if you are managing the entire business, you will be in touch with the day to day happenings in the market in which you get to know the latest trends. Gopi has only suggested to do something innovative as everyone does the same thing. so what is wrong in that? Doing something innovative is not wrong. On the contrary, you can present about the product to the client & explain its features & in what way it is better. You also avoid unnecessary competition. To get profits, one needs to create the demand for the product & be monopolistic.

Education qualification is important but whatever materials we get from the universities are outdated. So that is only a bookish knowledge & it does not have any relevance in the business or commercial world There are lots of things which you will not get in books. One has to study the market before starting a venture & take an expert guidance if necessary. So for doing business, educational qualification is not needed unless you are specialized in some field like law, audit, software etc.

Originally posted by: smit123

The people you quoted are all founders who started small and made it big. But tell me if there's anyone who can manage an already existing mega-business (in loss )and make it big once again. Yes, its possible if that person is experienced and qualified only. Some dumb nut who knows nothing about management let alone business cannot do so, at least in the real world. If that was the case companies would be recruiting illiterate women who run papad and achar business across the country as their CEOs. In SNS world, anything can happen. Maybe Gopi's next deal will be with NASA. Business doesnt need qualified people...really? I guess then all the business schools should close down and let laptop-washing stupid women take up management positions...wow !!! I mean, there's no harm in being a fan of the show but when stupidity is shown, i dont think there's any need to vehemently support it..it wont affect your loyality.

Originally posted by: katrinasalman

Well, tbh, I feel the actors & actresses of old times are much better. Amitabh is the best. Rajesh Khanna had continuous 15 hit films during his days. Many females used to be crazy after him.

Amitabh's dialogues are natural. Even if he glances at the script, he can deliver it naturally. He is not so handsome but his expressions & dialogues are awesome. Among the actresses, it is Hemamalini's acting is impressive in those days. Kaminey Hindi is Mumbai Hindi which Shahid Kapoor played. I agree with you on Barun Sobti and Sanaya Irani's acting is natural. They literally forgot themselves when they act. When I saw IPKKND in hotstar.com, I never found anybody screaming. Not even the person playing the negative role was not screaming. After seeing arshi, I don't think any actors of this generation can match them.

More than Devoleena, it is Rupal Patel who screams. When she screams, it really hurts the ears when I put the ear phones while watching the show in my laptop.

I never said Devo's acting is good but many have accepted her as Gopi. I don't think Giaa could have played dynamic roles. She is more suited for docile roles.

Kajol is also a Bengali and she has got a dark complexion but she is good looking and her acting is also good.

Devoleena is good looking but her dialogues are not natural. Nowadays the directors give more importance to glamour.

I agree about Rupal Patel...i want to switch my tv to mute mode whenever she speaks...

Kaminey Hindi being Mumbai Hindi... it doesnt matter what the language of the character is...as long as the actors picks it up and owns it like he or she is that person... Shahid Kapoor speaks very good hindi, but for the character he speaks in that bumbaiya language as it is called.

Kajol being dark and all, doesnt matter... she never let her ethnicity come across the characters that she played... Also, in case u dont know, her mother is a maharashtrian and Kajol speaks marathi also as good as hindi english or bengali.

Giaa Manek, always had that constipated look on her face, hence i never liked her. As for Devoleena, I dont agree she is good... she is better then a few, for e.g. There is this lead of Mere Angne Mein, who doesnt know how to show emotions at all...comparitively Devoleena shows a few emotions atleast...but she doesnt know how to act from her eyes...for e.g. again look at Khushi played by Sanaya...we could understand what she is feeling only by looking at her eyes...Sanaya and Even Barun emotes through their eyes...and Eyes are the biggest contributor to acting...emoting through Eyes is half battle won... Whereas Devoleena shows only a few emotions, like happy, angry and sad...and she uses her whole face for it, but not the eyes... Hence it never touches us...

When Khushi used to feel hurt Sanaya would show the hurt in her eyes... But for Devoleena i never feel that she is hurt... even when Ahem was with Manasi, she never showed that hurt that her husband is with some other woman. That is her lack of knowledge in acting i suppose.

i think on tv nobody has time 2 work on their language.Vishal n arhaan spoke local hindi in their shows.seeing Shabbir as Rishi in KTH I thought Shabbir can speak only hindi in eng accent.but I was surprised by the dialect he used in Kayamat.he spoke really local hindi.In the same show though sanjeeda acted well she was just speaking local hindi,but her accent was stylish which did'nt suit her character.Though Iqbal did wonderful roles as a local goon in KTH he failed in his speech

Kajol's dad is a Bengali n she does durga puja n all without any fail like a typical bengali.

Originally posted by: anjs

I agree about Rupal Patel...i want to switch my tv to mute mode whenever she speaks...

Kaminey Hindi being Mumbai Hindi... it doesnt matter what the language of the character is...as long as the actors picks it up and owns it like he or she is that person... Shahid Kapoor speaks very good hindi, but for the character he speaks in that bumbaiya language as it is called.

Kajol being dark and all, doesnt matter... she never let her ethnicity come across the characters that she played... Also, in case u dont know, her mother is a maharashtrian and Kajol speaks marathi also as good as hindi english or bengali.

Giaa Manek, always had that constipated look on her face, hence i never liked her. As for Devoleena, I dont agree she is good... she is better then a few, for e.g. There is this lead of Mere Angne Mein, who doesnt know how to show emotions at all...comparitively Devoleena shows a few emotions atleast...but she doesnt know how to act from her eyes...for e.g. again look at Khushi played by Sanaya...we could understand what she is feeling only by looking at her eyes...Sanaya and Even Barun emotes through their eyes...and Eyes are the biggest contributor to acting...emoting through Eyes is half battle won... Whereas Devoleena shows only a few emotions, like happy, angry and sad...and she uses her whole face for it, but not the eyes... Hence it never touches us...

When Khushi used to feel hurt Sanaya would show the hurt in her eyes... But for Devoleena i never feel that she is hurt... even when Ahem was with Manasi, she never showed that hurt that her husband is with some other woman. That is her lack of knowledge in acting i suppose.

Originally posted by: katrinasalman

Since you have asked me about the established business which incurred a loss & is picking up, it is the Steve Jobs. When that company incurred a huge loss, it affected the entire economy. But the market is picking up. It will take time to come back to the level it has achieved earlier. I give you one more example. My uncle was working in a company at Walchandnagar. (I don't know the company name). That company began to incur losses & many left the job. However, the same company began to make profits as the Management has changed.

I have quoted the examples of the founders as you said that achar business is not a formal one. All other businesses are affected by recession except education & hotel industry.

Yes, Gopi washed the laptop but she also cracked the most important deal in Switzerland though she was illiterate & that is not a small thing. People have the tendency to overlook 100 good things and catch only the negatives. Btw, who does not make mistakes? Gopi is also good at designing & embroidering. So starting a saree business is also not a big deal for her. It is within her reach.

Jigar claims that he has been taking care of business for 5 years but what did he do as a qualified person? That is most important. Rest of them is a b***s**t. If the company has got into huge debts , will Jigar's bookish knowledge come to his rescue? If the business does not work in one way, he should think about starting something creative & innovative for making profits. He won't be able to pay the debts if he incurs a loss. He has only been working under Ahem as a servant. So do you think he will be having that much knowledge about the business? Forget about Kokila & Gopi. Has he even consulted his own father before starting a venture? That is my point.

There is a difference between working under somebody (even if they are related to you) & doing the business independently. When you work under someone or manage only a particular department, you will only be confined to that whereas if you are managing the entire business, you will be in touch with the day to day happenings in the market in which you get to know the latest trends. Gopi has only suggested to do something innovative as everyone does the same thing. so what is wrong in that? Doing something innovative is not wrong. On the contrary, you can present about the product to the client & explain its features & in what way it is better. You also avoid unnecessary competition. To get profits, one needs to create the demand for the product & be monopolistic.

Education qualification is important but whatever materials we get from the universities are outdated. So that is only a bookish knowledge & it does not have any relevance in the business or commercial world There are lots of things which you will not get in books. One has to study the market before starting a venture & take an expert guidance if necessary. So for doing business, educational qualification is not needed unless you are specialized in some field like law, audit, software etc.

I think we should just royally shut down IIM and Harvard Business School... What's the need for spending lakhs of rupees on this institutes when a laptop washing, pickle making woman can run the business, no ?

The examples you are giving @katrinasalman, is from this illogical show only...that makes it more illogical...

What Gopi did in switzerland was also illogical... no sane business people will ever entertain things like that...

Gopi good in designing makes her good in the artistic side...but business and arts are different... I can vouch for that as I am from an Arts related Industry. Our brain is divided into two parts. Right is Art related and Left is Logic related. This is known thing and also proven by science that you cannot have bought sides equally developed... People whose Left Side is developed is Good at logical things, similarly people who have right sides developed are good at Art...

But then as I said before, in this Circus show, it doesnt matter... they will show Gopi as an all-rounder and winning in both arts n business...which is highly illogical, but cares...

Originally posted by: katrinasalman

Even if Gopi starts NASA project what will be her work. She will hire people who are expert in that field and get the things done. Management is all about that. Even if there is a technical problem, the management don't interfere in it. Their job is only to sit on the heads of the employees and get things done from them.😆🥱

Its not as easy as you make it sound...otherwise any TOm Dick or Harry would have become successful in business... There are so many who opt for Business, but only few make it

Originally posted by: jasminerahul

i think on tv nobody has time 2 work on their language.Vishal n arhaan spoke local hindi in their shows.seeing Shabbir as Rishi in KTH I thought Shabbir can speak only hindi in eng accent.but I was surprised by the dialect he used in Kayamat.he spoke really local hindi.In the same show though sanjeeda acted well she was just speaking local hindi,but her accent was stylish which did'nt suit her character.Though Iqbal did wonderful roles as a local goon in KTH he failed in his speech

Kajol's dad is a Bengali n she does durga puja n all without any fail like a typical bengali.

There are actors who do... Look at Sanaya Irani, her hindi is very weak, yet as Khushi in IPK, she speaks in the most purest form of Hindi, with so much ease, that you wont even feel that the girl is Sanaya Irani. It take some efforts to do so...for an actor to own the character.

Most tv actors look at this role like a government job. Come, Act and go home. Make a lot of money as long as the show stretches, cause after that one show, its not sure if they will get another show like that. The male lead of YRKKH, had even said so in an interview, that its like a 9 to 5 job for him. Devoleena comes under the same category. They dont want to take efforts, they dont want to think out of the box.