Another Important post reg CM ranking.

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tellyaddict

@Telly_Addict

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

A Longgg post...do read till the end and let me know ur views and understanding of my long post.

Just want to say...this post is not to offend anyone personally just want to share my unhappiness with wt I dint like.

When I came back to forum after a longgg brk of almost 2 months I observed one common thing and there is no prize for guessing that it was a common line in everyone's signature stating:
Dont hit chaska meter, we are on strike.

I was so confused wts this strike is all about then I read many older threads here and at suggestions corner also where the suggestion was given to change the CM ranking pattern as per the TRPs just cause our show is not on the TOP in CM even when its ruling the TRP chart.

At first I also thought its a good idea but next moment I was like

Why ????

Why we are mixing two entirely different mediums of entertainment...thats Television and Internet ???

Why its needed to include A Television rating system when it does not have anything to do with ranking here at IF, its not at all related to it ??? Does it !!!

Does any any of the shows ranking here have ANY influence on TRP system for Television ??? I dont think so...
It does not then we are trying to mess up the things.

Next...
When a show Tops a TRP chart its cause people sit there in front of their TV sets for the whole half an hour and watch or i'll say sometime bear wts going on with the show...in this way they contribute in their show's good TRP.

But here on Internet everyone is free to watch their fav shows at any point of time when ever they are free.
And until then they are here to enjoy the good things and bicker about bad things... hence making any section Topping CM.

So if TV audience solely have their contribution on TRPs then why we as IF members cant have a SOLELY contribution in our shows ranking at CM.

So if there is ABSOLUTELY no link between A Shows telecast on TV and its IF section then why we are fighting to include it in IF Ranking system, just cause our show is topping the TRP chart.
I dont think this is a valid reason from any Point of View.

Besides this...If A show is topping the TRP chart it means it has the mass audience watching the show and if show is Topping the CM ranking it means it has a Mass Audience here at IF.

So why mixing Two Entirely different aspects of Ranking and Entertainment ???
Why cant we give other shows their due by letting them be chosen by the people who love the show even when they dont/cant watch it on TV ???

Also as we have CM ranking we can have another ranking system named as TM: TRP Meter, which will have just TRP ratings on every sections homepage.

Just because someone said that our show has to be on top of CM we are following w/o analyzing all the aspects of it. Does it sound a wise decision.

Do post ur views...remember I am waiting to know what people have to think after reading about the story of other side of the coin.

Edited by -tellyaddict- - 13 years ago

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ANJ4

@ANJ4

Rocker

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Posted: 13 years ago

So in other words , we should not be on strike. is that my understanding. We should post on fan pages too.

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Sonia

@Bobbi.

Sparkler

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Posted: 13 years ago

Hi Sadhli,

Well I do agree with you till a certain extent that comparing two different mediums of entertainment is wrong.

I am not favoring the strike, but you see members of this forum, were wishing for the better for this forum. They wanted SNS to reach it's epic heights even in IF after conquering Television. So we can't state it as wrong, we could say it was a mere 'try' of members to get things done in their way.

However, of course, including the TRP in the CM Rankings would bring a lot of conjugation in the rankings.

And a point to take note of is that India-Forums has million users from ALL over the world where as the TRP system only catches the local Indian viewership. So definitely there will be contrast in likes and dislikes of the show since the show is based on Saas-Bahu drama, which the mature Indian audience prefer watching. So there may be a particular aged audience, who prefer youth serials over this, which is why the youth serials are topping the charts of the CM Ranking every week.

That's all I have to say :)

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-Nafisa-

@-Nafisa-

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

Sadhli, as a moderator your remit is to calm things down, when people are inflamed and angry, as we all are with the ranking system, but in so doing, you want the forum members to respect the India Forums ranking system (do not change the status quo).

How can we though? How can we respect a ranking system that is being manipulated by fake id's, favouritism to what the channels are wanting to promote so that they can have high TRP's for all shows, our show is a banker show, has the highest TRP as a result channels like Star Plus are promoting the shows with lower TRP to get more viewers, now India Forums is creating Tellybuzz articles based what the channels want promoted, so a Tellybuzz article is published not by what is popular i.e. having high TRP, but what has lower TRP and needs to get high TRP. Do you see the link between Online forums and Television viewers (TRP) now Sadhli and the rest of the forum?

So when one Tellybuzz is created what is happening...Tellybuzz gives Buzz points, Unique Visitors View points, Rating the article gives Rating points and Comments (these are all ranking parameters) but if a viewer sees a celebrity tagged to a Tellybuzz article they would go to her fan page, join her Fan Club (that's another parameter) if they have time make a Comment (another ranking parameter) When we don't have an article the following week the ranking drops. That's why we want the Tellybuzz out of the system, if they don't remove Tellybuzz because channels want more news about newer shows that have lower TRP, then India Forums should pacify the shows that are not favoured with Tellybuzz like SNS with TRP a Parameter (as we are leading the viewership figures) so it will even out the anomaly of us having less Tellybuzz.

Yesterday the rankings for the serial were announced they put us at 8th, then a couple of hours later at 7th, manipulation is going on in front of our eyes. Perhaps it was an IT error, if we give them a benefit of doubt, but why did it take them so long to correct it? Don't they have quality control checks? Just Arithmetical error check would have shown up the miscalculation.

If you read all this and can digest it, you will see the need for what we are doing now and hopefully the link between Online media and Television media is the same TRP just working in the reverse...as a result favouritism is happening to forum members that follow the show with lower TRP. There is definitely a link and India Forums have admitted it also.

Edited by Nafisa_blossoms - 13 years ago

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Naveen

@PN_luvs_Arjun

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

I agree with you Sadhli..

IF and TV are two different media and so no need to mess up both..

IF will never accept our proposal (i feel like it)... it is somewhat similar like how IF fans sending petitions to TV channels asking to NOT end the show.. similarly IF will also ignore our request.

i didnt hit CM for past 1 week so that the forum was on strike.. but strike paved no way useful for us.. instead we can concentrate more on the Activity in our Forum..

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Kristin

@Ichangedit

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

I don't really agree with you tellyaddict because I feel that IF already is being influenced by TV due to the unbalanced way TB's are being given to serials and celebs. It has been said that the number of them are influenced by the TV channels according to their PR campaignes for the shows. It is logically that channels will promote shows with lower TRPs more then the once with higher TPRs because there is more need for the first to be promoted to raise the number of viewers.

As Nafisa has pointed out the TBs are influencing not only the Buzz point parameter but nearly every other parameter as well. So we asked for them to not be included in the ranking system anymore. The strike started with this idea of excluding the TBs as parameter and then we included the TPRs due to IF saying first that they are working on a way to inlcude them in the ranking system. So this idea isn't born from our heads but the heads of the Admin team. Just thought to point that out.

Moreover I just want to say that including TPR's in the ranking system does not have to mean that huge changes in the ranks will follow. Its influence on the ranking system (so which percentage it will get for the result) mustn't be that high. But by including it a more balance and fairer system could be created. Because in the moment the ranking system is unfair, biased and dubious in my view. I mean seriously this just looks of to me. Even through many active members are on strike and the forum is less active as before we are still ranked 7 while we were ranked 9 when we were working really hard to get the rankings up? In the moment I have lost all faith in the current ranking system to say it clearly. I don't see the point in trying hard if the effects are not shown in the rankings either way. This is my personal opinion and you did asked to know it. I don't want to put blame on anything or so but just want to say that I don't get it.

Lastly I wanted to say that I don't expect SNS to be on top all the time. But I think there should be a fair chance for it to be one of the top shows in IF as well as in the outside world.

Well that is what is in my mind. Like it or don't that is up to you😊

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-Eris-

@-Eris-

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

I really am not sure how the current ranking system works. Earlier i used to hit the meter like crazy log in and log out and then hit it but i gave up but now a suprise is in store! With no commenting and hitting we are still gaining on the ladder instead of dropping. Tat s strange when the whole forum worked hard we kept deteriorating. Now everybody s given up but why are nt we slipping i expected tat the rank will go below fifteen but we are 7 tat s a miracle. Now coming to the tellybuzz articles its really sad tat we dont get articles often while i know tat others get two or three articles in a week. So why cant there be a rule that every show has the same no of articles for it and oly then it would be fair.

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Mandy

@Mandy20

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

I agree with you sadhli, what ur saying makes sense.. SNS is topping TRPs cuz it has more fans watching the show at 7:00 and the top show on IF is topping the CM cause it has more online fans

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-Muskii-

@-Muskii-

Sparkler

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Nafisa_blossoms
Sadhli, as a moderator your remit is to calm things down, when people are inflamed and angry, as we all are with the ranking system, but in so doing, you want the forum members to respect the India Forums ranking system (do not change the status quo).

How can we though? How can we respect a ranking system that is being manipulated by fake id's, favouritism to what the channels are wanting to promote so that they can have high TRP's for all shows, our show is a banker show, has the highest TRP as a result channels like Star Plus are promoting the shows with lower TRP to get more viewers, now India Forums is creating Tellybuzz articles based what the channels want promoted, so a Tellybuzz article is published not by what is popular i.e. having high TRP, but what has lower TRP and needs to get high TRP. Do you see the link between Online forums and Television viewers (TRP) now Sadhli and the rest of the forum?

So when one Tellybuzz is created what is happening...Tellybuzz gives Buzz points, Unique Visitors View points, Rating the article gives Rating points and Comments (these are all ranking parameters) but if a viewer sees a celebrity tagged to a Tellybuzz article they would go to her fan page, join her Fan Club (that's another parameter) if they have time make a Comment (another ranking parameter) When we don't have an article the following week the ranking drops. That's why we want the Tellybuzz out of the system, if they don't remove Tellybuzz because channels want more news about newer shows that have lower TRP, then India Forums should pacify the shows that are not favoured with Tellybuzz like SNS with TRP a Parameter (as we are leading the viewership figures) so it will even out the anomaly of us having less Tellybuzz.

Yesterday the rankings for the serial were announced they put us at 8th, then a couple of hours later at 7th, manipulation is going on in front of our eyes. Perhaps it was an IT error, if we give them a benefit of doubt, but why did it take them so long to correct it? Don't they have quality control checks? Just Arithmetical error check would have shown up the miscalculation.

If you read all this and can digest it, you will see the need for what we are doing now and hopefully the link between Online media and Television media is the same TRP just working in the reverse...as a result favouritism is happening to forum members that follow the show with lower TRP. There is definitely a link and India Forums have admitted it also.

I absolutely agree with you

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-GayabCat-

@-GayabCat-

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#10

Thanks sadhli for bringing this topic.up
It was.needed and I absolute agree to it
I mean why need to strike when if and trp are two dofferent things which.am tryin to tell everyone, thankfully u explained it better

Total agree to it and I wasnt even participatin in the strike anyway
Thanks once again

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