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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: rock&roll

........which reminds me..Bhaskar(ji😉), aap bhi fb do yaar...I promise i will not ask u abt ur siggy 😉😆😆



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Nahi deta. Aapse kaha thha woh Ji hata dijiye pehle and yes siggy nahi dekh sakte.😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bhaskar.T



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Nahi deta. Aapse kaha thha woh Ji hata dijiye pehle and yes siggy nahi dekh sakte.😆

why no fb....gaana itna bure tha kya....😆..I 'm sure my song must have single handedely demotivated u from giving fb 🤣🤣........chalo aapki khwaish puri kar deti hoon..apke naam se "ji" hata doongi...aap bhi mere naam se woh chosen letters(ji) hata dena 😉........

btw,yeh wala siggy achcha hai..pehle dil tootne ke baare mein siggy aur ab hoonsla aur himmat na haare ke barre mein siggy...good progress 😆...next siggy shld be " pehla nasha pehla khumaar "😆😆😆...or maybe "kisi na kisi se kahin na kahin...dil lagana padega" 😆😆😆

omg...sorry for digressing so much on the fb thread... 😃..cldn't resist 😛

Edited by rock&roll - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: tulasi99


rocknroll: u startled me 4 a sec whn u started. wht a started. i dinno my speaker vol was so high. very well sung. high notes r wonderful. lower notes can b improved.
were off-sur in some places. if i am rgt whn u samg bin tere saawan aaya tht line. all in all nice one.

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thank u very much for ur fb..really appreciate it 😃......and will work on the lower notes

looks like i startled everyone with my song(volume wise)..aage se statutory warning ke saath gaana bhejungi 🤣🤣🤣

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Posted: 17 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Summer3

Splendid effort by all and Kitti and Kalpa have also sung their songs well. Of course my buddy Prof. Rock n Roll has put tremendous effort too as stated earlier.👏👏👏

Next song Mauja Mauja from Jab We Met

tremendous effort but with wht results? 🤣🤣...jk...i know wht u meant 😃........thank u for ur fb and wonderful support.....🤗...

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Arun Sampath's responses in black.

My (Megha25) answers in blue.


I think for this round the contestants had problems on how to project correctly. Here's a tip, for those who don't already know, you should project from the diaphragm {the region just above the stomach where the bone (sternum) is in the middle of the chest}. This allows for more power rather than relying on the throat alone.

Good tip. Singing from the Naabi (Navel) so to speak, is what differentiates a superficial rendition with the one that has depth.

There were some scale problems. Here's what I recommend, when listening to the original pay particular attention to where the pitch changes high or low. Especially listen for scales (transition from high to low pitch or vice versa) often this is left out and it ruins the feel of the original. It would be a good idea to make notes on your lyrics sheet of where this takes place.

I am not sure what you mean here. Typically the pitch of a song does not vary. Some exceptions like in the Lata-Asha duet Main chali main chali, the pitch goes higher towards the end of the song. Are you talking about rising and falling notes? Or probably low, middle and high octaves?

Sure I would love to clarify for you. It is the tone of the song which does not vary. Pitches are a combination of high and low notes that make up a scale. Here is the technical definition for pitches "According to ANSI acoustical terminology, it is the auditory attribute of sound according to which notes can be ordered on a scale from low to high."

Octaves are a combination of scales, Falling notes refer to a transition from high to low scale and rising notes are low to high scale.

You seemed to have been confused about the musical terminology. Hope to have cleared things up.

At times it's difficult to keep to the correct tempo of the original as there's no music. This is what most singers do they recall the tempo of the original song by tapping their foot to the beats.

Well the problem here is this. Tapping the foot will ensure your taal is correct. But that by itself doesn't ensure that the pace of the tapping (tempo) matches that of the original. There is no surefire way of matching the tempo except trying to record soon after you hear the original or just go with your gut.

I understand where your coming from. But tapping the foot ensures greater accuracy in tempo than just trying to record soon after hearing the original. Most musical compositions indicate a BMP or beats per minute count. See a particular note value (for example, a quarter note or crotchet) is specified as the beat, and the marking indicates that a certain number of these beats must be played per minute. The faster the tempo of a song the more beats per minute. So to an extent you can try to match your tapping to the beats per minute count you may be off by a few taps but this is still far more accurate than relying on memory alone.



If you have any additional musical queries feel free to pm me. 😊


Edited by Megha25 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: rock&roll

thank u very much for ur fb..really appreciate it 😃......and will work on the lower notes

looks like i startled everyone with my song(volume wise)..aage se statutory warning ke saath gaana bhejungi 🤣🤣🤣

Rock n Roll, your volume is fine as it is just that you throw your voice very well. I found the rest too soft.

When the high notes are handled so well, the lower notes are the easy part.👏👏

Carry on your good work.👏👏👏

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Posted: 17 years ago
#27

Can we have a little more feedback please? We've got only 2 poeple's feedback so far, so if you guys are posting, please post before we send in the next round songs so we can actually use it!

Thanks Megha, that was really helpful!

-Sam
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Posted: 17 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Megha25

Arun Sampath's responses in black.


There were some scale problems. Here's what I recommend, when listening to the original pay particular attention to where the pitch changes high or low. Especially listen for scales (transition from high to low pitch or vice versa) often this is left out and it ruins the feel of the original. It would be a good idea to make notes on your lyrics sheet of where this takes place.

I am not sure what you mean here. Typically the pitch of a song does not vary. Some exceptions like in the Lata-Asha duet Main chali main chali, the pitch goes higher towards the end of the song. Are you talking about rising and falling notes? Or probably low, middle and high octaves?

Sure I would love to clarify for you. It is the tone of the song which does not vary. Pitches are a combination of high and low notes that make up a scale. Here is the technical definition for pitches "According to ANSI acoustical terminology, it is the auditory attribute of sound according to which notes can be ordered on a scale from low to high."

Octaves are a combination of scales, Falling notes refer to a transition from high to low scale and rising notes are low to high scale.

You seemed to have been confused about the musical terminology. Hope to have cleared things up.

I beg to disagree with what you are saying above. Just google concert pitch. Once you set a concert pitch (sa for example), all the other notes are relative to that in a composition. It is a pretty well understood concept.

Arun Sampath

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Posted: 17 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Megha25

Arun Sampath's responses in black.


At times it's difficult to keep to the correct tempo of the original as there's no music. This is what most singers do they recall the tempo of the original song by tapping their foot to the beats.

Well the problem here is this. Tapping the foot will ensure your taal is correct. But that by itself doesn't ensure that the pace of the tapping (tempo) matches that of the original. There is no surefire way of matching the tempo except trying to record soon after you hear the original or just go with your gut.

I understand where your coming from. But tapping the foot ensures greater accuracy in tempo than just trying to record soon after hearing the original. Most musical compositions indicate a BMP or beats per minute count. See a particular note value (for example, a quarter note or crotchet) is specified as the beat, and the marking indicates that a certain number of these beats must be played per minute. The faster the tempo of a song the more beats per minute. So to an extent you can try to match your tapping to the beats per minute count you may be off by a few taps but this is still far more accurate than relying on memory alone.



If you have any additional musical queries feel free to pm me. 😊


OK, quiz time. do your math and do post how many beats per minute are in Rangeela title song. Do let me know if beats per minute for this song is published somewhere :-)

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: arunsampath

I beg to disagree with what you are saying above. Just google concert pitch. Once you set a concert pitch (sa for example), all the other notes are relative to that in a composition. It is a pretty well understood concept.

Arun Sampath



Megha25

How does tuning instruments or setting them to concert pitch have anything to do with the pitches within the composition itself (the low and high notes within its scales) ? 😜 My post was intended for the contestants they will obviously not need to tune their instruments the specific term concert pitch holds no relevance here 😆 why would you introduce that term? Rather they will need to adjust their voices accordingly to the high and low notes within the scales of the composition or to the pitches the term I had used in my post.

Why you brought concert pitch up is still a mystery.😆 I never mentioned this specific term in my post and the meaning is completely different from the generalized pitch term I had used. I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself by introducing new terms you aren't even able to correctly define as an attempt to cover up your mistakes.😉

I used pitch as a generalized term you can look it up understand it and still keep disagreeing. 😆

Pitch is a pretty well understood concept yet you still don't seem to understand. 😆 Feel free to disagree. How much more can I simplify? Rather you don't want to understand just debate.

concert pitch Definition

noun

  1. to which instruments are tuned so as to be compatible in performance
  2. the actual sound of a note written for a transposing instrument, as the trumpet
A concert pitch is just used to tune instruments (set them in the proper keys so they are not too flat or sharp) before playing a composition. No composition can exist without a combination of different notes on different scales, these notes on a scale are referred to as pitch. Even if you set your instrument to concert pitch you still have to play the low and high notes that make up the scales of a composition or its pitches. I can't simplify more for you to understand.

Pitch (General Term)

noun

the auditory attribute of sound according to which notes can be ordered on a scale from low to high.
Edited by Megha25 - 17 years ago

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