Amir hafeez-Teri Deewani-my opinion - Page 4

Originally posted by: Sur_Sangam

Looks like you studied the song in great details. Thanks for a nice discussion.

Just my two cents from my limited knowledge...glad that u read it in dtl and liked it 😃

Originally posted by: chatbuster

very well analyzed and put. truly impressed.👏now i know where to go if i want to ever hit the right notes😊👏........thank u 😊

wondering if it'd be also possible to confirm whether his forgetting of lines in songs reflected a similar modify-to-cover philosophy?😉 dont know why else he'd forget lines which would sort of flow with the music.😉😊

I have no theories on his lyrics forgetting...😉..seemed genuine to me 😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

i also think it's hazardous to exterpolate into the future and say that a kid's range will necessarily widen with riyaaz or anything, as shehzaadi91 here is stating. if that necessarily followed, then we'd have every kid who sang well today becoming rafi-like in a few years with riyaaz. dont know why but i dont think that's happening any time soon.😉😆 some of these singers are as good today as they'll ever be, cant count on more chickens than that😉😆

Actualy,i belive that a kid's range will necessarily widen with constant,sincere and proper riyaz..I personally believe this is something that will definitely happen.......However I agree that we cannot extrapolate on this point,simply bcoz most kids DO NOT do so much riyaz...infact,most of them do not do any riyaz......Once they leave the talent show,they forget abt music...so there goes their range and talent...hence even at 21/31/41 they still sing the same...in fact,they get worse...due to the lethal combination of age & no practice😉...howver,if they did learn proper classical and do proper riyaz...their range wld most certainly expand.......In today's fast paced world,such patience and dedication is hard to come by......hence the whole possibilty remains one big IF.......I too don't believe in such extrapolation.😊

Originally posted by: rock&roll

😆😆😆..........I really think Amir is a gr8 singer....his song(in my opinion)was fabulous......Didn't intend to start this post to defend/attack Amir...just wanted to express my POV abt some hitherto undiscussed aspects abt his performance in this song

PS:Ur comment was very funny and really made me laugh 😆😆😆

oh, i know yaar. i was just expressing what i think. ab achha gaye ya bura, mujh sey toh kafi achha gata hai tumhara amir but when compared to some other l'il champs around him, i feel he shd have been out a long time ago. some others also attempted hard songs and actually did full justice to them w/o any chalaki or cover ups. so, relative to them, i wld still say all the analysis looks like it's done to defend aamir adjusting the song down to his level😊

😆😆 btw, i am glad i made u laugh, girl😊

Originally posted by: rock&roll

Actualy,i belive that a kid's range will necessarily widen with constant,sincere and proper riyaz..I personally believe this is something that will definitely happen.......However I agree that we cannot extrapolate on this point,simply bcoz most kids DO NOT do so much riyaz...infact,most of them do not do any riyaz......Once they leave the talent show,they forget abt music...so there goes their range and talent...hence even at 21/31/41 they still sing the same...in fact,they get worse...due to the lethal combination of age & no practice😉...howver,if they did learn proper classical and do proper riyaz...their range wld most certainly expand.......In today's fast paced world,such patience and dedication is hard to come by......hence the whole possibilty remains one big IF.......I too don't believe in such extrapolation.😊

yes, the fast life can do that to someone.😊

ok, maybe the range might expand with more riyaaz though i'm not too sure of that, but even then something else usually gets lost. it's like this- i've seen kids who were brilliant at creative writing. later they start working on their math, only to start slipping on the writing part even though they keep working hard on writing. i just happen to think that if it was only about riyaaz making someone great, we'd have had more phenomenal singers. surely there are people who'd be motivated enuff to do the riyaaz if they thought greatness was in reach. not everyone's born lazy after all😊

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

oh, i know yaar. i was just expressing what i think. ab achha gaye ya bura, mujh sey toh kafi achha gata hai tumhara amir but when compared to some other l'il champs around him, i feel he shd have been out a long time ago. some others also attempted hard songs and actually did full justice to them w/o any chalaki or cover ups. so, relative to them, i wld still say all the analysis looks like it's done to defend aamir adjusting the song down to his level😊

😆😆 btw, i am glad i made u laugh, girl😊

I agree that some others attempted very tough ones,par kismat ne (or shld i say public ne)unka saath nahin diya..My personal fav on the show was Rohit..any opportunity i get,i talk abt his untimely elimination(there i go again 😉)........Amir and Anamika come next.......😃

Originally posted by: chatbuster

yes, the fast life can do that to someone.😊

ok, maybe the range might expand with more riyaaz though i'm not too sure of that, but even then something else usually gets lost. it's like this- i've seen kids who were brilliant at creative writing. later they start working on their math, only to start slipping on the writing part even though they keep working hard on writing. i just happen to think that if it was only about riyaaz making someone great, we'd have had more phenomenal singers. surely there are people who'd be motivated enuff to do the riyaaz if they thought greatness was in reach. not everyone's born lazy after all😊

mmmm...very good point....I agree that riyaaz alone maketh not a genius😉...there is certainly more to it ........Leaving out factors like luck etc which are reqd to make it big and leaving out riyaaz,i think it is the inherent talent and desire to excel in singing..the real passion which matter..above all,there is voice quality..something which is a god given gift ...Voice quality can be improved upon by practise,butto a gr8 extent ,it is a gift...(at least i bel so)

Other than this,songs require a feel/emotion with which they should be rendered..which everyone cannot do..A singer may be techincally gr8,but without the feel his song doesn't appeal.......so i think the right combination(riyaz,talent,feel, desire to excel & voice quality )is very hard to come by....eg)Lataji and Ashaji's songs don't appeal as much in Tamil as they do in Hindi and S.p.Blasubramaniam's songs don't appeal as much in Hindi as they do in Tamil......so the language creates a barier for rendering the proper emotion though the singers are technically gr8 😊

Hi Gauri,

I wish Aamir Hafiz was chalak enough to do any such coverups. Woh bechara toh is so innocent that he doesnt do any drama on stage unlike other participants.
His innocence reflects in the way he talks "Inshaallah Public mujhe aur mere dosto ko bhi isi tarah vote karti rahe". I have never seen any kid talking for others when it comes to votes, hez the one and only one.
And singing wise, I believe few numbers which he attemped were way too high standards and not only did he sang well he even added his own feel to each song.
I simply love the way he adds a new feel to the song by adding a smily touch to some lines.

I know for the past few weeks his performance wasnt up to the mark, but that is not as compared to other contestants, it was infact a comparison to his previous great performances. I feel even Sonu was not happy becoz this guy has immense potential and was not the way he performed before.

I thot this was onr of the best erformances by Amir I really liked this song and it was so good to hear him sing so well. 😊

AHFan, I agree with you! Amir was one of the only kid who didn't do stunts to get people's attention. Anamika with her silly walkout, Tanmay with his irritating repetitive ads, Rohan with giving every guest gifts, Vaishali with endless talking..etc etc. Some might believe that Amir's AV/poor shiz was a part of it but I don't buy that. The AV was shown by zee, not Amir...and he talked to Sonu because he was upset that his parents couldnt be there to support as he was in bottom 3. He personally didn't say anything to the audienc, not like he started bawling on the stage saying he's poor, help him.

Sorry, that was OT...but yeah, like I said, I agree with your entire post AHFan. It's not like his performances were weak compared to others (he was always atleast better than Tanmay)...they just got weak compared to his past performances and the judges started to expect a lot from him....kinda like what happened to Smita, I suppose. Not her fan though.

I don't think there were many who were better than Amir. Rohit was, yes. I loved Vibhore too, but I dont think he was better than Amir, maybe on the same level. Vaishali, Vasu, Smita...all kinda deserved to leave before Amir. Heck, even Tanmay or Rohan should've gone before him.
But that's just what I feel. Please don't quote me to say I disagree, I don't wanna debate.