Today's songs in Kishore da's Voice - Page 5

Sandesh Shandilya's comments make the most sense to me.

Why rob credit from a new singer who has done justice to a song and played a role in its success by saying a departed singer would have done a better job?

I personally dislike such comparisons. Give SOME credit where its due!

PS. I am not bashing Kishore Kumar; he happens to be an all-time favourite of mine.

1. Originally posted by: Morgoth

   Sandesh Shandilya's comments make the most sense to me.
   
   Why rob credit from a new singer who has done justice to a song and played a role in its success by saying a departed singer would have done a better job?
   
   I personally dislike such comparisons. Give SOME credit where its due!
   
   PS. I am not bashing Kishore Kumar; he happens to be an all-time favourite of mine.
   
   

I fully agree with you. There is no reason to do comparisons and rob credit away from the current breed of singers. Needless to say that Rafi saab is my most favorite singer closely followed by Kishore da.

It is like doing the exercise -- which of Alka Yagnik's songs Lataji would have sung better or in which of Sunidhi's songs Ashaji would have sounded better. We don't ask the composers which of their Alaka/Sunidhi songs would they want Lataji/Ashaji to sing, then why ask this question....

Originally posted by: *salil*

We don't ask the composers which of their Alaka/Sunidhi songs would they want Lataji/Ashaji to sing, then why ask this question....

Well thats precisely the interviewer asked the MD's. It was Kishoreda's birthday and whoever interviewed wanted to know. Thats why Lataji/ashaji/rafisaab was not brought to the picture.

Its called a wishful thinking .Many a times , in many interviews, many of todays MD's have expressed the opinion that one thing they regret is not working with these legends. If only they had a chance. Same with todays singers who haven't sung for any of yesteryear compositions. Asking this question is not belittling todays singers, but just a wishful thinking that had they an opportunity to make him sing which song would it have been.

The composers are giving their opinions keeping in mind Kishore da of the 70s and 80s. If he were alive today - let's face it - his voice would not be the same as it was 20 years ago. No one would want him to sing for their heroes (except maybe for Amitabh, but I even doubt that - Sudesh Bhosle sounds more like him).

If Lata ji had died in the 80s, and today's composers would have been asked which of their songs they would have her sing - they would say "all of them!". But in reality we've seen that as Lata ji has grown older, her voice is not the same, as it's become unsuitable for today's actresses. Which is why no one imagines her in the same way they think about singers that are not alive. Same with Asha ji or Manna de.

It's a simple case of ghar ki murgi daal barabar. People who are not with us today are romanticized, while people who are with us are not given as much importance. Why only singers - it even applies to MDs. If RD Burman was alive today he may have been living a forgotten life, like how Khayyam, Pyarelal, or Anandji are. He died when he was on top, like Rafi saab and Kishore da, which is why they are held in high esteem. Thankfully we didn't see them at their lows.

Originally posted by: apparaohoare

So Sandesh Shandiliya is trying to be different. No wonder is a three movie wonder. He is such a huge pandit of music that he could not find a single song for KK. 😡

You are doing the same thing below that you are accusing Sandesh Shandilya of doing here. 😆

Originally posted by: apparaohoare

I would never do that. This song is a master piece. This is the only song that can put the nasal king Sanu in a legendary position. He was just perfect in this song. And you know, it is very difficult to improve something that is already perfect.

The fact is, every composer considers his song to be his masterpiece. It may not be as great as other songs, but in his eyes they will be his favorite songs. He has worked hard on them, chosen the best singers out of the available options he had, and gave his all to the song. At the end of that, if he feels he wouldn't want to tamper with them - he's right. It's his choice. After all, original is original, right? 😉

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

Thankfully we didn't see them at their lows.

Actually all three of them- RDB, Rafi Saab and Kishore da they have had low periods too before being revived again.

But yes, you are right that had Kishoreda been alive today he may not have been able to do justice since with age voice withers. Exactly what happened to Lataji. Ashaji well, she is still going strong but not as much.

The fantasy part is also true. These MD's wish they were there in the 70's-80's to tap on those powerful voices with their present composition...

THese are all hypothetical situations. What they mean is which song would have sounded really great had Kishoreda of then with his magical voice had sung it. Thats all. If you go and ask any of the contemporary top singers of today if they had an opportunity to sing for say Madan Mohan ji, SDB or RDB then which ones would they have preferred singing or feel would have suited their voice, you can rest assured they will surely name a few. But that doesn't mean they are belittling the present MD's or the olden singers. It is just a wishful thinking, thats all.

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

The composers are giving their opinions keeping in mind Kishore da of the 70s and 80s. If he were alive today - let's face it - his voice would not be the same as it was 20 years ago. No one would want him to sing for their heroes (except maybe for Amitabh, but I even doubt that - Sudesh Bhosle sounds more like him).

If Lata ji had died in the 80s, and today's composers would have been asked which of their songs they would have her sing - they would say "all of them!". But in reality we've seen that as Lata ji has grown older, her voice is not the same, as it's become unsuitable for today's actresses. Which is why no one imagines her in the same way they think about singers that are not alive. Same with Asha ji or Manna de.

It's a simple case of ghar ki murgi daal barabar. People who are not with us today are romanticized, while people who are with us are not given as much importance. Why only singers - it even applies to MDs. If RD Burman was alive today he may have been living a forgotten life, like how Khayyam, Pyarelal, or Anandji are. He died when he was on top, like Rafi saab and Kishore da, which is why they are held in high esteem. Thankfully we didn't see them at their lows.

Great comment. I am with you 100%.

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That is wishing some of the singers of today sing melodies from yester days. I would not like Kishore Da to be here this time and sing any of the new songs. The whole charm and magic of the era would be lost. My 2 cents.........

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

The composers are giving their opinions keeping in mind Kishore da of the 70s and 80s. If he were alive today - let's face it - his voice would not be the same as it was 20 years ago. No one would want him to sing for their heroes (except maybe for Amitabh, but I even doubt that - Sudesh Bhosle sounds more like him).

If Lata ji had died in the 80s, and today's composers would have been asked which of their songs they would have her sing - they would say "all of them!". But in reality we've seen that as Lata ji has grown older, her voice is not the same, as it's become unsuitable for today's actresses. Which is why no one imagines her in the same way they think about singers that are not alive. Same with Asha ji or Manna de.

It's a simple case of ghar ki murgi daal barabar. People who are not with us today are romanticized, while people who are with us are not given as much importance. Why only singers - it even applies to MDs. If RD Burman was alive today he may have been living a forgotten life, like how Khayyam, Pyarelal, or Anandji are. He died when he was on top, like Rafi saab and Kishore da, which is why they are held in high esteem. Thankfully we didn't see them at their lows.

Obviously the current MDs are talking about Kishore of the 60s, 70s and 80s. Why would there be wishful thinking for an 80-year old Kishore singing today' songs 😆 😆😆

Originally posted by: Morgoth

Sandesh Shandilya's comments make the most sense to me.

Why rob credit from a new singer who has done justice to a song and played a role in its success by saying a departed singer would have done a better job?

I personally dislike such comparisons. Give SOME credit where its due!

PS. I am not bashing Kishore Kumar; he happens to be an all-time favourite of mine.

Well, I would suppose that every new singer would know perfectly well that he or she is just a speck in comparison with Kishore, Rafi, Lata or Asha so they would probably not take it as an insult.

Even in the talent-hunt contests, when mentors or judges give their views, they often mention that it would be stupid to evaluate these new voices against those of Kishore, Lata et al, because it is impossible for these singers to sing anything close to those gold-standard singers.

Those yester-year singers were honed and moulded by scores of music-directors and lyricists who were so gifted that they could be called institutions in human form. Where can today's singers get that kind of training and experience?

What is wrong in trying to imagine how Kishore would sound when singing Kuch na Kaho or Jhoom barabar jhoom?