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Posted: 17 years ago
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Some question if Advil can answer

1- Why these MDs were only asked about Kishore Da in the first place? Was it a speccial day on Kishore?

2- why not they were also asked about M Rafi and others singers of that time, the same question?

3- What if todays singers would have sung Kishore's songs in his time? Could those had become bigger hits or failiures?

4- What about Tansen comming alive and start singing now in todays world? Would he become as popular today as he was in his own time?.

Friends these times are different, call it technology, abundance of talent, cut throat competetion, quick turn arround movi productions and the media and access available to most critics for comparisons and analysis of todays wonders, who seldom get very little recognition for singing all time high numbers. Comes out and followed by so many new numbers one after the other that the retension time on air for some very hit songs are fe w weeks to may be few months.

In Kishore Da's time many told me that turn the radio switch on and you could hear the same song many times a day for months, years and even decades to become a daily mantra. And without listenig to those songs for many the day would'nt begin.

Edited by simpleone - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Since the above questions are specifically directed towards Adi, it would not be appropriate to anybody else to answer them, so until he comes around i would like to add some points in favour of Kishoreda.

Kishoreda's voice texture, versatility, throw & range of voice & perfectionism are the qualities of an exceptional singer who can be attributed as a timeless talent and slotting him as an old generation singer would be a musical blasphemy of the worst kind.

He along with Mohd rafi could have given a run for money for most of the present day singers.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: trishanku3

Since the above questions are specifically directed towards Adi, it would not be appropriate to anybody else to answer them, so until he comes around i would like to add some points in favour of Kishoreda.

Kishoreda's voice texture, versatility, throw & range of voice & perfectionism are the qualities of an exceptional singer who can be attributed as a timeless talent and slotting him as an old generation singer would be a musical blasphemy of the worst kind.

He along with Mohd rafi could have given a run for money for most of the present day singers.

very well said 👏.Kishore da and Rafi saab were rare talents and i don't think they cld be slotted in a time period/generation.Most of the current generation singers be it,Sanu/Sonu Nigam srated off by (almost)imitating Kishore and Rafi.Of course,later on they evloved their own styles.But the influence of these singers in their singing cannot be brushed away.

They were both so versatile that they cld have sung any type of songs for any kind of hero and they did too.Rafi sang for romantic heroes(dev anand),tragedy king(dilip kumar),macho man(dharmedra) ,the comedian(johnywalker) and a hyperactive guy like shammi with equal ease,changing the modulation/pattern of his voice mildly each time to suit the hero.Kishore sang for the ever green romantic(rajesh khanna) and the angry young man(amitabh)with equal aplomb.

Actors like dev Anand and Dilip Kumar had remarked that rafi saab rendered his songs with so much emotion that it made the job of acting a lot easier for them .How many such singers do we have today?They wld have certainly given most of today's singers a run for their money.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: simpleone

Some question if Advil can answer

1- Why these MDs were only asked about Kishore Da in the first place? Was it a speccial day on Kishore?

Yes, it was done to commemorate his birthday (Aug 4th) this year.


2- why not they were also asked about M Rafi and others singers of that time, the same question?

Because it was exclusively meant for Kishoreda?

3- What if todays singers would have sung Kishore's songs in his time? Could those had become bigger hits or failiures?

Many have come, many have tried, and yet, the original rules. For your information, starting from Amit kumar right upto, Abhijit Bhattacharjee, Kumar Sanu, Babul Supriyo, Shaan, etc, they have all recorded Kishoreda's songs as a tribute to him, but still the same songs sounded a lot better in Kishoreda's voice. So you could say, none of those tributes made even a fraction of the impression in the minds of the audience like the original did.

Kishoreda's voice has a mesmerising magic.Happy or sad, fast or slow, romantic or peppy,pop type or raaga based,he could do justice to all genres. His voice texture, throw ,the wide range ,perfect emotiveness and bringing out the precise mood complimentary to the lyrics, the versatility,the freshness in each song - he had it all.In short these qualities are the ones which classify him as an exceptional singer - truly a timeless wonder.

4- What about Tansen comming alive and start singing now in todays world? Would he become as popular today as he was in his own time?.

Music never ages.Good singers never die.They get immortalised through their songs .If you are a good singer, then time cannot bog you down or make you misfit, neither can singining quality deteriorate.A person who could shake even innanimate things then can still do that today so long he is made to sing a song that has enough capabolity to shake.Can today's songs meet that last criteria?😉

Your question should have been more like, would Tansen, had he come alive want to sing today's songs? 😳😆 I don't think he would be dying to sings a dard e disco or whatever else that is ruling the charts now.



Friends these times are different, call it technology, abundance of talent, cut throat competetion, quick turn arround movi productions and the media and access available to most critics for comparisons and analysis of todays wonders, who seldom get very little recognition for singing all time high numbers. Comes out and followed by so many new numbers one after the other that the retension time on air for some very hit songs are fe w weeks to may be few months.

All this is true, but at the same time even in today's world the songs of yesteryear heroes/heroines still remain evergreen, so much so that today's singers try to bring out the remix versions. While today's chart toppers fade out, the popular songs of these heroes still remain superhits.Quality plays a major role in making a song memorable. Perhaps todays quality is not that remarkable to leave a long term impression.

In Kishore Da's time many told me that turn the radio switch on and you could hear the same song many times a day for months, years and even decades to become a daily mantra. And without listenig to those songs for many the day would'nt begin.

I have missed out on this radio thingy, but agreed that songs of these legends were so refreshing that one could go on and on listening to forever without getting bored.

Edited by advil - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manik_mia

Everyone except Sandesh Shandilya were trying to be modest and respectful with Kishore da.

This will be as if Mohd Rafi singing like Saigol.

Generation is changed now and music style is also changed. 60s and 70s had their time; 80s and 90s had their. But now music is completely different.

I do not think Kishore can do justice on Dard e Disco.

I do not bring KK down but this is generation gap.


None of them is praising Kishore just to be respectful! If you read carefully, each one of them is expressing a heartfelt, wishful thinking that Kishore could come and sing their songs! Most of Jatin lalit's songs sound like they were made for Kishore - take the songs of Yes Boss for example.

How can anyone doubt whether Kishore could have sung this song or that song? He was so talented and quick on the uptake that he could do just anything. Three decades of his songs are proof of that. Today's songs are NOTHING compared to his capabilities - what is one silly dard-e-disco? In fact, even Farah Khan who made OSO asked Vishal-Shekhar to compose 70s style music, so it's not like Dard e Disco is some new age music.


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Agree 100%. Kishore Da is basically untouchable and can adapt himself to any generation. Darde Disco even the little champs can sing. Let us give Kishore Da all the respect. 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manik_mia

Everyone except Sandesh Shandilya were trying to be modest and respectful with Kishore da.

This will be as if Mohd Rafi singing like Saigol.

Generation is changed now and music style is also changed. 60s and 70s had their time; 80s and 90s had their. But now music is completely different.

I do not think Kishore can do justice on Dard e Disco.

I do not bring KK down but this is generation gap.

Sorry but i would disagree here with u😳....U are talking of generation gap with regards to todays music....so how about the songs of sonu, shaan or as a matter of fact even KK. yes maybe he could not hv done justice to songs of say sukhwinder or kailash kher, but rest i am sure he would hv accomplished for sure. infact even those sufiana songs of Kailash or others, i am sure he would hv sung perfectly but maybe they would not hv sounded good to us.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manik_mia

Everyone except Sandesh Shandilya were trying to be modest and respectful with Kishore da.

This will be as if Mohd Rafi singing like Saigol.

Generation is changed now and music style is also changed. 60s and 70s had their time; 80s and 90s had their. But now music is completely different.

I do not think Kishore can do justice on Dard e Disco.

I do not bring KK down but this is generation gap.

If Kishore Da would have been around ..i dont think people would route much into disco songs...coz more soul touching soothings songs would be in market and people would have realized what music means in real.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: guess_gallery

If Kishore Da would have been around ..i dont think people would route much into disco songs...coz more soul touching soothings songs would be in market and people would have realized what music means in real.

I agree on this one. If Kishore da was alive, 80s era could have extended to 90s. You can see even in his absence the era was extended by Kumar Sanu, Abhijeet etc. But it stopped soon in mid 90s.

You have to understand one point that in Bollywood in throughout history, a singer and an actor get super stardom at the same time. Mohd Rafi was with DK; Mukesh was with RK and Monuj and Kishore da got stardom with Rajesh Khanna and later on Big B; now Sonu is going great with all the Khans. Even though ID would say he want Kishore to sing a song for SRK but the film director would say "NO".

I can remember when Kishore da had a fight with Big B in 1985 and decided not to sing any more song for him all film directors were in big trouble. One good thing came out of this that few more singers got job.

If you look at Manna Dey's young age, film directors only could match Balraj Sahni and Pran in his voice. Once these 2 guys are not around he stopped getting offer. But he is a great singer.

I think if Kishore da was still alive, VS and ID would not say what they are saying now.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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beautiful topic.unfortunately im going of to see jhoom india 😆 but before leaving id say kishore da would do justice to all the songs of kishoreda,abhijit,babul supriyo and even some shaan songs.the first three were given most of their songs because they were kishore da clones
if mohd rafi would have survived even sonu nigam would have got verry few songs to sing.look at main agar kahoon its tailormade for rafi saab.
i guess if both of them were still present only kk menon kailash kher sukhwinder and to an extent shaan could have survived in this industry

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