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Posted: 17 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: SonPan

Also... "Dard e Disco" by Javaid Akhter!! What on earth does that mean!!!??? Ne one!??? 😕

Actually, if you read the first post, that song is what inspired me to create this thread. "Dard-e-Disco" was not a mistake by Javed Akhtar...he actually wrote senseless lyrics on purpose due to the situation in the movie. Read this article for details:

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Morgoth

The second line deals with the universal concept of "materialism". Obviously, when you go to God, you won't take your property and possessions (elephants, horses and chattel) when you die.

On a deeper analysis, one can also say that lies and material property can aid you when you live on Earth, but when you die and face God, all of that does not matter.

Okay, I guess I can see that. But I don't think horses and elephants are a good example of material possessions. Who has horses and elephants anyway? And the whole paidal thing still sounds weird to me. Shailendra could have used a better example, not to mention made the song rhyme! 😡

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: .:.Suhana.:.

Okay, I guess I can see that. But I don't think horses and elephants are a good example of material possessions. Who has horses and elephants anyway? And the whole paidal thing still sounds weird to me. Shailendra could have used a better example, not to mention made the song rhyme! 😡



I was going to give same explanation and found Tanaz already did that😊. In olden times only rich could afford Elephant and Horses. So one needed money to take care of the animals mentioned. That means again 'don't go after materialistic possessions because in the end you won't need anything and you can't take anything'. The rich and the poor will be treated the same way by god.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Sometime back we had similar discussion on Debate Mansion of IF. It didn't take off this far.

Interesting topic Suhana!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: .:.Suhana.:.

Okay, I guess I can see that. But I don't think horses and elephants are a good example of material possessions. Who has horses and elephants anyway? And the whole paidal thing still sounds weird to me. Shailendra could have used a better example, not to mention made the song rhyme! 😡

😆😆 Maybe he should have said tumhe 'nanga' hi jaana hai..

But yes, Tanaz is right.. here's the second verse of the song

Tumhare Mehel Chaubaare, Yahin Reh Jayenge Saare
Akad Kis Baat Ki Pyaare, Yeh Sar Phir Bhi Jhukaana Hai

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Posted: 17 years ago
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12) Tere Ishq Mein Nachenge – Raja Hindustani

sabki asalyat ko pehchaanen hum

My dad (who is an Urdu poet) pointed this one out to me. There is no such word as "asalyat." The correct term is "asliyat," which couldn't be used for this song because it doesn't fit in the rhythm. However, the word "haqeeqat" could have been used with no problem.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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13) Dil Ke Jharoke Mein - Brahmachari

yaadon ko teri main dulhan banaakar, rakhoonga main dil ke paas

This is just a minor thing, but I am pretty sure it is grammatically wrong to use "main" in both places above. That's like saying "main wahaan aake main dekhoongi." It should either be "main wahaan aake dekhoongi" or "wahaan aake main dekhoongi." The way it's placed in the song, it's harder to notice, but it's still not correct. Anyway, I like this song otherwise.

Edited by .:.Suhana.:. - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: .:.Suhana.:.

12) Tere Ishq Mein Nachenge – Raja Hindustani

sabki asalyat ko pehchaanen hum

My dad (who is an Urdu poet) pointed this one out to me. There is no such word as "asalyat." The correct term is "asliyat," which couldn't be used for this song because it doesn't fit in the rhythm. However, the word "haqeeqat" could have been used with no problem.

Yep, 'asliyat' is the right one, but 'asalyat' was used to fit in with the rhythm, like you said. I don't think haqeeqat describes the emotion as well as asliyat here. Haqeeqat means truth, asliyat here refers to hidden truth, or reality. They mean the same thing, but when he's trying to say he found out about those people's real face, he means their asliyat, rather than their haqeeqat. There's a difference.

And come to think of it, Raja Hindustani is a gawar - he can surely make a linguistic error. Who knows, many rural people probably speak like that too.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: .:.Suhana.:.

12) Dil Ke Jharoke Mein - Brahmachari

yaadon ko teri main dulhan banaakar, rakhoonga main dil ke paas

This is just a minor thing, but I am pretty sure it is grammatically wrong to use "main" in both places above. That's like saying "main wahaan aake main dekhoongi." It should either be "main wahaan aake dekhoongi" or "wahaan aake main dekhoongi." The way it's placed in the song, it's harder to notice, but it's still not correct. Anyway, I like this song otherwise.

Hmm, yep hard to notice, but you're right. He could have said, 'rakhoonga is dil ke paas' or he could have said, 'yaadon ko teri ek dulhan banakar'.

By the way, how do you remember and find all these errors? I can't think of any off the top of my head 😕

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: shadyhtown

Hmm, yep hard to notice, but you're right. He could have said, 'rakhoonga is dil ke paas' or he could have said, 'yaadon ko teri ek dulhan banakar'.

By the way, how do you remember and find all these errors? I can't think of any off the top of my head 😕

"Rakhoonga is dil ke paas" would have been perfect, but I think the other one changes the rhythm slightly...and if you try not to, the word ek sound very unnatural.

About how I remember them....well, I guess I listen to songs very closely and catch them somehow. Since my dad is a poet, and I'm an aspiring poet, lyrics are very important to me. Actually, I'm sure there are at least 50 that my dad or I have discovered over the years. They're slowly coming back to me, but it's taking some time. 😆

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