Dearth of Music Directors, not Singers - Page 10

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

My take:
3. The new music is more promising for active youngsters who like to dance to tunes... now they cant dance to guru dutt movie music old kind music is good for people who wanna hear music for relaxation.... hence i think both forms should co-exist

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

First of all.... I agree that we require melody today.....

But I wont agree with all the people here who wanna stuck into some melody and old music only
And pray what do you mean by some melody and old music? Looks like you have not followed anything.

My take:
1. We need to have nice balance of classical, semiclassical, rock, pop, remix, slow, fast, soothing, disco songs.... all should be available to the public
Has anyone said there should be only one type of music??

2. What revolution in music.... huh i cant understand..... There are many other core important issues related to ur and my life which needs to be focussed more and need revolution rather than this music industry.... Its pity that we waste talking of revolution in industry not related to our basic life....
Please go ahead and focus on all those important issues related to your life, since music is not all that important to you. I think this is the attitude of listeners and composers today, that's why we get the kind of mediocre music that is being sold in markets.

Music is an essential part of our culture, religion - in fact our consciousness. The Bhakti Movement in Indian History had a huge music component. Nowadays it is even being used as therapy for the sick and there are many research studies going on in this field. Music and noise affect even animals.

I am sure you have heard of cultural revolutions. Music is a component of that.

3. Every kind of music has its own good and bad points.... this is specifically for the people who think non classical or non melodious music is substandard.... Music is music whether its melody or not... if it is hearable gives u relaxation or make u tap ur feet to it then its music for me... basically if u can enjoy in.... (Here you means all the group of different tastes not the one who like only melodies.) The new music is more promising for active youngsters who like to dance to tunes... now they cant dance to guru dutt movie music old kind music is good for people who wanna hear music for relaxation.... hence i think both forms should co-exist

For your information, old Hindi film music was not all slow. Have you heard fast taanas in classical style like the ones sung by Manna De and Rafi? By all means, let all kind of music exist, but the listeners need to get more informed, more discerning and not accept any crap in the name of new music or dance music.

4. I dont agree creativity has lost.... In fact the current MDs are more creative, who can create some of their own tunes even after sooooooooooooooooooooo many tunes being already composed..... now some people copy the tunes, they are definitely not that creative 😊
Current MDs are more creative than the golden era ones? Well, what I can I say to you - when you yourself admitted that you were never exposed to music in your home and started hearing it only after visiting IF.

5. for the topic heading that currently singers are good but not the MDs.... I was surprised to see only one contestant of 6 contestants sang Khayyam sahab's song in last episode of SRGMP... and Junaid cd nt do complete justice because of his voice quality... Also Mussarat could not sing Khayyam sahab's song.... I doubt even shaan can sing such songs as he is known for fast numbers.... So I disagree that the singers are competent enough to carry the pure classical tunes😊
Many of the new singers in both SRGMP and VOI seem quite competant. Even Sukhwinder Singh can sing semi-classical as he demonstrated in Bangri Marori. With practice these singers should be able to sing well. But where are the tunes?

Originally posted by: Ethnos

Guru Dutt movies had some awesome music thanks to SD. Have you heard songs from CID, Mr and Mrs 55, Aar Paar, Kaagaz ke phool (especially that song 'san san san woh chali hawa')? Then there was this movie called 12'o clock with the song 'main kho gaya yahin kahin'. These were melodious and not too slow paced (which some people for some vague reason have problems with).

I think I would give more credit to youngsters of today, who are more than just a bunch of juveniles that like to shake a leg here and there. They are very receptive to a good tune, good music and yes even classical music. Even today, for most classical concerts that happen, you will find a large crowd of youngsters sitting on the floor of the auditorium just to hear the maestro. I've seen that with Shiv Kumar Sharma's recitals, as also for Chaurasia, Parveen Sultana and many more!

Check what I said that both forms should co-exist..... I also like the classical songs and i loved the retro today for that only..... I agree that classical songs should come more in numbers but that does nt mean with complete non-existence of modern music... both forms should have equal weigtage😃

Originally posted by: punjini

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

Originally posted by: T.

Music to one person may be noise to another. I don't understand why people give little importance to rhythm. Yes, melody is important, but melody without rhythm is a bunch of different sounds with no pleasing pattern!

Perhaps someone may not enjoy rhythmic beat-based music, but the fact is that it IS music. You cannot simply classify melody as music and discard rhythm.

thanks god someone concurs with the point i am trying to tell everyone till now.... 😃

Originally posted by: T.

Music to one person may be noise to another. I don't understand why people give little importance to rhythm. Yes, melody is important, but melody without rhythm is a bunch of different sounds with no pleasing pattern!

Perhaps someone may not enjoy rhythmic beat-based music, but the fact is that it IS music. You cannot simply classify melody as music and discard rhythm.

Also, like culture, music keeps evolving. It is not stagnant. Just because we may not like a certain kind of music, it does not mean it is BAD music. There are people who like it.

Good and Bad is a matter of personal perception. Whatever sells will be used. Lata's voice was different in that era compared to bass voices of Shamshad and Noorjehan. It sold because it was different. If Lata Mangeshkar's voice did not sell in that era, she would not even be in the industry regardless of technical expertise.

The market has ALWAYS mattered. Be it Tansen during Akbar's time or AR Rehman now. An artiste without an audience is like a bedouin without an oasis.