Your opinion on this weeks show - Page 6

Originally posted by: Barnali

I agree with u rahul. present day singers just now are not of that caliber to sing every genre song. That part by Himesh was maybe not too correct. I believe it from my heart that if Rafi had been given to sing that deepak raag sung by Saigal he would hav done equal justice and same if Saigal was asked to sing the raag based songs by manna dey or Rafi he would hav done it easily.

The main reason being they were much better trained and dedicated to music than the present generation ones. This is the main reason why we are not getting versatile singers today. they are good singers but no where near the ones Himesh commented upon.

And because they lack this versatility its better that they follow what himesh is saying. let them perform the ones that suit their voice. but the second part he is saying that after u beocme succesfull u can go for versatility is nothing but a joke. U are either a versatile singer or u are not. at this age after all the practice now the voice is set to a particular type of singing. now it will be difficult infact maybe impossible to change that.

i think this is very well analyzed and written. totally agree with the part in bold.

i also had an issue with imagining how someone would sound in a recording studio, like what HR was saying for musarat. pretty hard to do and requires taking someone else's word for it, rather than use our own ears. also, i guess different MDs could make the singer sound differently based on the pitch correction and sound effects technologies they respectively use. but is that what we want? evaluating singers for what technology can do to their singing, rather than on what we actually hear and on what the singer is capable of on their own.

of course HR did not actually suggest that folks judge someone on that basis, but it would be so much nicer if he was allowed to speak only after the judges were done. there'd be no question of the results being subtly "doctored" then.

Originally posted by: Barnali

I agree with u rahul. present day singers just now are not of that caliber to sing every genre song. That part by Himesh was maybe not too correct. I believe it from my heart that if Rafi had been given to sing that deepak raag sung by Saigal he would hav done equal justice and same if Saigal was asked to sing the raag based songs by manna dey or Rafi he would hav done it easily.

The main reason being they were much better trained and dedicated to music than the present generation ones. This is the main reason why we are not getting versatile singers today. they are good singers but no where near the ones Himesh commented upon.

And because they lack this versatility its better that they follow what himesh is saying. let them perform the ones that suit their voice. but the second part he is saying that after u beocme succesfull u can go for versatility is nothing but a joke. U are either a versatile singer or u are not. at this age after all the practice now the voice is set to a particular type of singing. now it will be difficult infact maybe impossible to change that.

I kind of disagree Barnalijee, and dont want to fire up a debate on this

but I think current day singers are versatile, I mean established singers. If you look at Sonu/KK/Roopkumar Rathore/etc they can pretty much sing whatever olden days Rafi/Saigal saab could sing. I am not comparing the current day singers with greats such as Rafi Saab. But we have the entire body of work of Rafi in front of us and we can say he was versatile, the current day singers are more than 1/2 way there and still pretty young. You only value people after they retire or pass away, just like Rafisaab.

As for the talent hunt singers, many of them are not allowed to be versatile by the format of the programs, if they sing and get eliminated, it is their career on the line, so naturally they are cautious, but that is where training comes in

Generally trained singers tend to be more versatile than untrained ones(offcourse there are exceptions like Kishoreda), since as you say before they get here their voices are already moulded and training and a wish to explore different genre's will certainly make them versatile.

If a mentor does not allow them to try different Genre, we should be picking on the mentor, not the contestant

Last year Debo pretty much tried all genre's he failed sometimes, he succeeded sometimes

But we certainly cant say they are not versatile, b'cos after all it is us(the members of public voting) who throw them out for trying something different and not passing and dont allow them to be versatile.

sorry about the Bhashan😆

Originally posted by: Amritavarshini

Ladies:
None of them were worth a grade.
Saberi was atleast good in parts.
Mauli's song choices were totally incorrect for her.
Her saoniye song she should have sung the first two lines in the lower octave, her start itself sounded horrible. The Chitra number she just should not have attempted.
Sunita had a falsetto voice, totally unappealing, her singing technique had absolutely no polish.
Her elimination was fair. No grade.
C grade for Saberi and C- for Mauli.

First of all it's Anita and not Sunita.

I believe Anita has a very melodious voice and quite appealing. She did not use falsetto in her whole song. Only in Antara, high piched part. It was not at all horrible to listen to, she managed it (as ID also mentioned). And for Mauli she has yet to learn the trick to use falsetto in places, it's so very much obviously clear from her singing. Sounds horrible.

Originally posted by: Pradarshak

First of all it's Anita and not Sunita.

I believe Anita has a very melodious voice and quite appealing. She did not use falsetto in her whole song. Only in Antara, high piched part. It was not at all horrible to listen to, she managed it (as ID also mentioned). And for Mauli she has yet to learn the trick to use falsetto in places, it's so very much obviously clear from her singing. Sounds horrible.

Originally posted by: sareg

I kind of disagree Barnalijee, and dont want to fire up a debate on this

but I think current day singers are versatile, I mean established singers. If you look at Sonu/KK/Roopkumar Rathore/etc they can pretty much sing whatever olden days Rafi/Saigal saab could sing.

yes true. but noone can sound as smooth and golden as my rafi even after umpteen copies and remakes.😆 but concede the point in general for current established singers

I am not comparing the current day singers with greats such as Rafi Saab. But we have the entire body of work of Rafi in front of us and we can say he was versatile, the current day singers are more than 1/2 way there and still pretty young. You only value people after they retire or pass away, just like Rafisaab.

As for the talent hunt singers,

this is the part i think we were discussing, not established singers.😊

many of them are not allowed to be versatile by the format of the programs, if they sing and get eliminated, it is their career on the line, so naturally they are cautious, but that is where training comes in

on the contrary, the format has been structured with different MD rounds. would require a singer to be at least not the worst in each of those categories to be able to move up. but yes, with HR playing a starring role, maybe someone will just have to be able to do mayya mayya to be able to move up. but that is not for lack of program format, rather it is MDs subverting the process😉

Generally trained singers tend to be more versatile than untrained ones(offcourse there are exceptions like Kishoreda), since as you say before they get here their voices are already moulded and training and a wish to explore different genre's will certainly make them versatile.

yes. this is what we're saying i think😊

If a mentor does not allow them to try different Genre, we should be picking on the mentor, not the contestant

yes, hopefully that is what we were doing😊

Last year Debo pretty much tried all genre's he failed sometimes, he succeeded sometimes

But we certainly cant say they are not versatile, b'cos after all it is us(the members of public voting) who throw them out for trying something different and not passing and dont allow them to be versatile.

perhaps people throw out these singers precisely because they are not versatile?😊

but i like the emphasis on public having to share credits in the outcome. thats how it should be in a democracy. the scoundrels and the heros are mostly it's creation😆

sorry about the Bhashan😆

ditto😆

Originally posted by: biswita

Sanchita also tried mutliple item songs/Sunidhi originals, but we all know her potential, she did a great job with slower numbers(KANK etc). Similiarly Sameer was lablled a tapori singer, but he made us cry with Tujhse naaraz. Even those kids had greater range than Mauli. Genre singing is all very well, but not if you make a fool of yourself in other ways.

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Very correct..I agree wth u in toto

Sanchita, Pawni were good in item songs but remember the ghazal rounds. They were good in that too.

U take any good singer be it Sunidhi who sings item nos. in the present and our very own Asha ji who sang such songs in the yesteryears. They all can sing other kind of songs with equal ease.

I think ID is doing a great job in choosing songs for the contestants and honing their singing skills. Amanat is singing other kind of songs.(may not be of the level as Mitwa but still good). Initially he may have little difficulty but slowly all such singers will evolve well and the ones like Mauli will not gain anything from such a great platform also. In the end, only one will be winner but others will have only the learnings with them. So even thinking from this perspective, the mentors shdn't tell Mauli to sing the same song again and again. Rather they shd encourage her to improve her singing skills in other songs(may be in the same genre, doesnt matter)