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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: toronto123

But I would say that tomorrow Neeladri and Raktima are going to be in.

I liked your reasoning. Sharib has a Lagi tumse to his credit. I listened to the original and I liked Sharib's version much better. I don't think Niladari has sung anything outstanding till now. Even keeping past achievements aside I think Sharib will get through.

Rakthema's nasal voice could go against her. Joyeeta should get in tomorrow.

May the best singer win...

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Posted: 19 years ago
Great to know that Hema and Swananda is in šŸ‘.Ya i do agree with toronto123 abt next round ,I too like Sharib's voice very much but there is no verstality but again we cant say anything,abt Rakhtima i never liked her singing but the same time not even Joyeeta's so in btw them i think Rakthima will get Blue Card.
Now i m waiting for this telecast to see but next week only 😭 .
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: pmahesh

Hi salilu,

Any chance that you can upload these songs or email us the songs.



I am yet to figure out the technology for putting the stuff from my DVR and converting that into video files that I can upload somewhere or send by mail. May be manno123, toronto123 or skyblux who have also recorded all the episodes can help.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: chandoba

THANXšŸ‘šŸ‘

aap donon ki dwandwa (friendly) yudh mein hamara bhi kuch kuch faayida ho raha hain...thanks guys for sharing your knowledge...

Edited by taikoo - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: chimichanga

About the mentors :
"Dashing Duo" Jatin - Lalit are seniormost and have proved their mettle. Jo Jeeta Woh Sikandar, Diwali Dulhaniya Le Jayenge, Kuch Kuch Hota Hai are probably their best work. DDLJ and KKHH especially are super duper hits with their songs being one of the main reasons for their success. and I can NEVER tire of the song "Pehla Nasha, Pehla Khumar" from JJWS. Also worth mentioniong is their work in Khamoshi - great music , great songs in that movie. They started their film carrer with Yaara Dildaara in 1991 so they have stood the test of time...
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Ismail Darbar is just about 5-6 years old in the industry. His Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam was AMAZING. A good job in Devdas also but in Kisna many of the songs are from AR Rehman too. This music is good(not excellent) but from what I have seen, his range seems to be limited. Most of his better songs have classical base but i am not sure if he can give peppy numbers which are required in todays films.
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"Happening" Himmesh Resammiya: I am not very familiar with his work but it looks as if he is pertty good in giving fast catchy numbers which may not have everlasting value but soar up in the music charts until another such number comes along. case in point are these songs- "Dilli Ki Sardi", "Just Chill Chill". From the list it looks like Himesh has more quantity than quality in his work.
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"Awesome" Aadesh Srivastava: Seems to be the weakest of the 4 mentors . I dont recall any song of his and it doesnt seem that he has done any path breaking work so far. Also, the music of many of his films has been shared by other composers too, especially Jatin-Lalit. I am not sure which memorable ones he himself has scored.
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interesting analysis chimichanga...

Perhaps you should listen to Baghban songs...they are awesome and are from Aadesh Shrivastava...especially and .

Also, Himmesh's is really really good. When you start humming this song, it just never leaves you...very good singing by Himmesh...

Edited by taikoo - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
hi guys,
follwing r the songs lifted/copied/"inspired" by JL
link is http://www.itwofs.com/
sub music directors ka pol khul jayega!!!!!!!!

1 Haan haan yeh pyaar hai [Film: Dillagi] <TC>
Unabashed copy from Frankie Valli's 'Cant take my eyes off you'!
Listen to Haan haan yeh | Cant take my eyes off you
Shameless instance of copying.

2 Suniye to [Film: Yes boss] <TC>
Lifted from Hisham Abbas' 'Ahla ma feki'!
Listen to suniye to | ahla ma feki
Bad case of copying. Most of Jatin Lalit's copying are with no inputs from their side, making it a blatant case of plagiarism!

3 Sachi yeh kahani hai [Film: Kabhi haan kabhi naa] <TC>
Lifted from the song 'In Zaire' by Johnny Wakelin and The Kinshasa Band released in 1976.
Listen to Sachi yeh kahani | In Zaire
Ditto!

4 Yeh wada raha [Film: Raju Chacha] <TC>
Lifted from the song 'Day by day' which was part of the musical stage play Godspell, composed by Stephen Schwartz.
Listen to Yeh wada raha | Day by day
What was the motivation to copy a song from a musical? I wonder! Incidentally it seems that this musical became quite popular when it was staged in Mumbai in the 70s!

5 Tum humko hum tumko sanam [Film: Laqshya] <TC>
Inspired from the number 'chim chim cheree' from the 1964 movie Mary Poppins!
Listen to Tum humko | Chim chim cheree
Inspired by the 1964 Walt Disney classic 'Chim chim cher-ee' from the movie Mary Poppins, this was a pretty good version in Hindi. Incidentally, 'chim chim cher-ee' won the Academy Award for best original song - music composers Richard M. Sherman and Robert B. Sherman. The song was sung on-screen by Dick Van Dyke with Julie Andrews, Karen Dotrice and Matthew Garber. Another Hindi version of the same original was in the movie Ghoonghat directed by choreographer Chinni Prakash. That song 'Chim chimney' was a more direct lift!

6 Aa Ha Ri Bali Haari [Film: Nishaana] <TC>
Ditto from Dr Alban's Its my life

Not worth commenting!

7 Yahaan ke hum sikander [Film: Jo jeeta wohi sikander] <TC>
From Pinball Wizard by The Who.
Listen to Yahan ke hum sikandar | Pinball wizard
Moreso the 2nd para in the hindi number, the place where it starts 'jo sab karte hain yaaron...'! Ditto!

8 Jaana suno hum tumpe [Film: Khamoshi - The Musical] <TC>
Lifted lock, stock and barrel from Paul Anka's 'Bring the wine'.
Listen to Jaana suno | Bring the wine
Note to note copy!

9 Suno Zara [Film: Bada Din] <TC>
From Anne Murray's You needed me!
Listen to Suno Zara | You needed me
Yup, copied!

10 Chod Zid Karna [Film: Pyar kiya to darna kya] <TC>
From Stereo Nation's I've been waiting!

Yup, copied! Ditto!

11 Koi mil gaya [Film: Kuch kuch hota hai] <TC>
From Andrew Lloyd Webber's 'Take that look off your face'!
Listen to Koi mil gaya | Take that look off your face
Partially, yes. There are definite oodles of the Webber track in JL's hindi version!

12 Khud ko kya [Film: Khiladi] <TC>
From Nena Hagen's 99 Red Balloons!
Listen to Khud ko kya | 99 Red balloons
Oh sure!

13 Kuch kasme [Film: Aankhen] <TC>
From the Moody Blues number 'Nights in white satin'!
Listen to Kuch kasme | Nights in white satin
Inspired!

14 Hasata hai rulata hai [Film: Soch] <TC>
Very similar to the Tamil song 'Australia desam varai' by Deva in the movie Citizen. Possibly, both lifted from the same source!
Listen to Hasata Hai | Australia Desam
Inspired! Do let me know if you know/ find the original!

15 Dil doondta hai [Film: Soch] <TC>
Lifted from Columbian singer Shakira's Ojos asi!
Listen to Dil doondta hai | Ojos asi
Lifted LSB!

16 Koi nahin aisa [Film: Dillagi] <TC>
Lifted LSB from the 1968 hit by Tommy James and The Shondells, 'Mony mony'!
Listen to Koi nahin aisa | Mony mony
Sick!
For trivia buffs: During the last half of the '60s, Tommy James & the Shondells were one of America's most successful pop acts, generating 14 Top 40 hits between 1966 and 1969. The group developed a heavier sound with the percussive 1968 hit 'Mony Mony' (created from the MONY - Mutual Of New York - Insurance Company building who's logo could be seen from Tommy's Manhattan apartment

17 Jahan Koi Pyar Ka [Film: Pyar Koi Khel Nahin (1999)]
Inspired by the 1974 dance track, 'El Bimbo' by French composer Claude Morgan.
Listen to Pyar Koi Khel Nahin | El Bimbo
The original track has seen numerous instrumental versions and remixes ever since it became a chartbuster in 1974. Now, to give due credit to Jatin Lalit, they do seem to have played around with the original, enough to make it sound different. Incidentally, Anu Malik had used the same tune as an interlude in a track in the Akshay Kumar starrer, 'Zaalim' (the song was 'Ay yai ya, sorry sorry').

18 Pehli pehli baar jab [Film: Jab Pyaar Kisi Se Hota Hai (1998)]
A blatant lift from the 1978 disco smash hit, 'Born to be alive' by Patrick Hernandez.
Listen to Pehli pehli baar jab | Born to be alive
Trivia on Patrick Hernandez: A former English teacher, Patrick Hernandez was born in France to a Spanish Father and an Australian-Italian. As Beatlemania struck in the mid sixties, he bought his first guitar when traveling in London. It was from here that he started a number of groups which began touring France. He was offered a gig as lead singer for a group in 1970 which indirectly led him to him being offered his first recording contract by a producer named Claude Francois. He declined due to him signing up as lead singer for a new band, Paris Palace Hotel. While writing material for the group's proposed first album, he wrote his signature tune 'Born to be Alive'. They recorded two singles but an album was never released. By 1976, the group split and Patrick changed careers by trying his hand at cow rearing!! But in 1978, when another producer, Jean Vanloo called him to Brussels to record the vocals on a track, Patrick played, in between recording sessions, Born to be Alive and the producer thought it could be a hit.

They record the track, but Vanloo decides to disco it up by cranking it up to 133 beats per minute and highlighting the drums. While it sounds good, the track is still missing something! Another ex-Paris Palace Hotel band member Herve Tholance, suggested that the song could be improved if they add a funky guitar riff that the Spencer Davis Group used on a live performance of Gimme Some Lovin'. With all the elements in place, it seems the single will be a smash hit! Unfortunately it isn't that easy, as no French music label wanted to release it! Patrcik and Jan decided to push it on Italian radio, where it becomes a monster hit. Patrick received a gold single for it in 1979 which prompted CBS France to sign him up. They quickly set up a promotional tour which helped the single rocket to the top of the disco charts. The promo tour ended in Chile in 1981 and helped Hernandez and 'Born to be Alive' sell over 23 million singles, with gold and platinum status from over 50 countries. He remained at number one in France for four months from April 1979 and was the first Frenchman to be awarded a Certified Gold Disc for US sales over 1 million. In February 1980, he was awarded a special trophy inscribed: "To Patrick Hernandez for transcending his rock roots by making Born to be Alive a disco hit" by Billboard Magazine.

19 Chak de [Film: Hum Tum (2004)]
The prominent, catchy hook is lifted from a Middle Eastern track, 'Yalla ya shabab' by Ragheb Alama (Album: 'Saharouny Leil', 2001).
Listen to Chak de | Yalla Ya Shabab
Also refer to other lifts of the same original - Indi-pop page: No. 6 and Anand Raaj Anand Page: No. 9

20 I'm the best/ Aur Kya [Film: Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani (2000)]
This particular piece that appears in the 2nd stanza in 'I'm the best' and in the 2nd interlude in 'Aur kya', interestingly, is a direct lift from a part of the main title song of the 1968 MGM classic 'Chitty chitty bang bang'!
Listen to I'm the best piece | Aur Kya 2nd interlude | Chitty chitty bang bang piece
This seems more like a tribute to me, but given the amount of direct lifts Jatin Lalit have to their credit (?), words like tribute have no meaning, actually! This is a rather inconsequential (why do I use that word? Because, this piece which appears well at the end of a inner stanza does not in any way affect the main flow of the song. In other words, I do not believe that this particular piece could be the moot point for creating this song!) piece of inspiration could be Jatin Lalit's tribute to one of their favorite soundtracks! Hey...that sounds like a very decent way to describe plagiarism!
Trivia: 'Chitty chitty bang bang', the movie had music by Richard M. Sherman and Robert B. Sherman. Based on Ian Fleming's (yeah, the man behind James Bond!) original story, this children's musical classic is about a nutty single dad inventor, his two kids, and their amazing flying car. This was also produced by Bond film producer Albert Broccoli!

Another Trivia: The movie 'Phir bhi dil hai hindustani' is in itself a poor remake of another poor trash, 'Switching Channels' (1988) starring Kathleen Turner and Burt Reynolds.



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Posted: 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
some of himesh...............

'Dillagi' and 'Marjawan' [Aashiq Banaya Aapne (2005)] <TC>
Composer: Himesh Reshamiyya
Lifted off Ali Zafar's Rangeen and Faakhir's Marjawan, respectively!
Listen to Dillagi | Rangeen
Listen to Marjawan (ABA) | Marjawan (Faakhir)
Ali Zafar's 'Rangeen' from his 2003 album, 'Huqa Pani' while Faakhir's 'Marjawan' from his 2002 album, 'Aatish'.

Gela Gela [Aitraaz (2004)] <TC>
Composer: Himesh Reshammiya
Inspired by R Kelly's 'Thoia Thoing'
Listen to Gela Gela | Thoia Thoing
R Kelly's track was part of his 2003 album, 'Chocolate Factory'

O priya o priya [Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye (2000)] <TC>
Composer: Himesh Reshammiyya
Lifted from Santana's 'Maria'!
Listen to O priya o priya | Maria
Himesh Reshammiyya has so far been a consistently 'dinchak-jhatak-matak' kind of music director - a dream come true for someone like David Dhawan who has worked with him in Dulhan Hum Le Jaayenge and now in Yeh Hai Jalwa. Surprisingly, barring a few numbers, Himesh hasn't lifted much in his films so far. Hence it came as a surprise when I heard 'O priya o priya' from the Salman starrer 'Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye' (2000, the movie itself was a lift of the Adam Sandler starrer, 'The Wedding Singer'). The song was a direct lift from Santana's chartbusting 'Maria' (1999 - Featuring The Product G&B, Produced by Wyclef Jean). Even more surprising is that many online music reviews haven't mentioned this lift...in fact a Subash K Jha review in Indya.com says this about this song "...O priya priya with its sing-along chant has a key interlude taken from A R Rahman's Mere paas hai tu in Taal. That apart, Reshammiya has been able to squeeze a semblance of sympathetic melody into O priya"! (Indya.com - KPNHJ)

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Posted: 19 years ago
now its turn of ismail..

Nimbuda Nimbuda [Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam (1999)] <TC>
Composer: Ismail Darbar
Inspired by Ghazni Khan Manganiyar's Rajasthani Folk song, 'Nimbuda'
Listen to Nimbuda [Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam] | Nimbuda [Original]
If you'd like to listen to the full version of the folk song, click here (check out 'Nimbuda Nimbuda'!)
Take a look at these 2 (out of many other sites) sites that talk of this song being a lift from a Rajasthani Manganiyar folk song!
Diverse Strains | Sunday Tribune
I completely agree with Shuba Mudgal (who has penned the write-up in Diverse Strains) when she asks, "If we can listen to a folk song in a blockbuster movie, why can we not give an occasional patient hearing to the original?" Ismail Darbar had a wonderful chance to handle this in the right way, but I wonder why he messed it up and ended with a 'plagiarist' tag - that too in his much-celebrated debut. All he had to do was to add a note of credit to the original composer of the song, Rajasthani folk singer Ghazni Khan Manganiyar, so that people can differentiate between the original and the Bollywood version - when you listen to the two you'd understand the kind of work that Ismail has put in, in his version and made a simple, 'otherwise-restricted-to-a-few-discerning-listeners' track into an ultra-catchy dance number! Its a pity that decided to pass it as his original composition.

Ai ajnabee [Deewangi (2002)] <TC>
Composer: Ismail Darbar
Lifted from Portugese 'Fado' singer, Dulce Pontes' song, 'Cancao do mar'!
Listen to Ai Ajnabee | Cancao Do Mar
Two interesting things to note here....'Cancao do mar' was part of the soundtrack of 'Primal fear' from whose plot Deewangi has been inspired. And second, 'cancao do mar' has already been lifted as-is in Tamil, for the movie Kushi, with music by Deva! This is probably Ismail Darbar's first blatant lift...I can almost see Director Anees Bazmee and Producer Nitin Manmohan compelling Ismail to lift this number...but you never know...!
Also listen to the Tamil version Oh Vennila [Kushi]

Chaand chupa [Hum dil de chuke sanam] <TC>
Composer: Ismail Darbar
Inspired by the Love story theme by Francis Lai
Listen to Francis Lai's theme from Love Story | Chaand chupa
Inspired.

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