DOTW - SRGMP Contests: Who should judge? - Page 16

Originally posted by: charades

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Thats the problem Vijay - you think judgement and results ends up in deciding just the winner..... But that is not the case! The result is about finding talent and giving them a successful launch platform - Simple 😛

Originally posted by: charades

Exactly charades !!!

I wrote the same thing earlier to jaya the topic is different and the views are different ..some how they donot go with the heading 😕

Originally posted by: jayc1234

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Thats the problem Vijay - you think judgement and results ends up in deciding just the winner..... But that is not the case! The result is about finding talent and giving them a successful launch platform - Simple 😛

not the winner jaya ..the one ..who have the talent ...to stay ..and give us ..the music ...in coming years ...that we can remember ...sing ..enjoy ..appreciate...😛...simple 😉

Originally posted by: dolly

i want to add something here. it happened on indian idol ..pata hein yeh saregama hein lekin its worth mentioning..i remember specifically in one show sonu nigam was insisting on singing rather then makeovers

he was upset about it himself and was telling the channel guys to give participants good songs to sing where audience can measure their singing and participants also get range and variety

its only becouse he made a noise about makeovers people concentrated more on singing later on.
Make overs take a lot away from these singers first of all it takes a lot of time and thess people are themselves overwhelmed by the changes in their appearances that they spend more time on looking good
rather than riyaz for the song they are going to sing

sonu ultimate comment was that if you select good singer then you will like to buy a cd to listen to songs sung by him/her
i agree to that.
bottom line for people who are talking about so called promoting and sustaining talent ..this is the question i want to ask what exactly you mean by that.

I am not even sure what you are saying is relevant here. What we were trying to tell about promotion and sustaining talent has been already told many times - but I will repeat to clarify your confusion.

What we are saying that - the platform will prove beneficial when the singers who participate here start off with some recognition and have better chances to make it big... When people participate in the decision making process, they connect to the show lot more, they connect to the singers lot more... This automatically leads to the singers being talked about - Media gives them attention and eventually they also get noticed in the circles of movie and music biggies - where it really matters... Hence, even if the best singer does not win - people among the top 5-6 are pretty talented and do get the break.. that is the ultimate motive of the talent hunt show.

The chances of this happening is lot lot more when people are connected to the show.. And the past years are proof of that.. Few of thextremely talented winners of past SRGMP show have lost in anonimity as the people connection was not there, while almost all the 12 finalists of C2005 are better known to one and all and have a much bigger chance to make it big...

That the whole thing about promotion and sustainibility...😊

Originally posted by: dolly

not the winner jaya ..the one ..who have the talent ...to stay ..and give us ..the music ...in coming years ...that we can remember ...sing ..enjoy ..appreciate...😛...simple 😉

Exactly - the one who has the talent - that person needs to get noticed and make it to the top.. so that we are enriched by the music.. Winner or not! 😉 Simple 😛

And for remembering people need to know the person, connect to them... past shows of SRGM.. we have got great winners and no one remembers them.. why? people were not involved ! Again - very very simple 😉

Originally posted by: gauri_2

I agree with you Vijay and I suggested that singers be graded by a panel of consistent judges (singers/composers) and one or two guest judges (again singers/composers). The guest judges element will help keeping partial markings by consistent judges in check.

gauri,

this is why i wrote my previous post just to give a example ..that judges know the best they know what is important for singing ...looks are secondery..all these makeovers blind public especially the youngsters.

Originally posted by: jayc1234

Exactly - the one who has the talent - that person needs to get noticed and make it to the top.. so that we are enriched by the music.. Winner or not! 😉 Simple 😛

why not winner 😕...and why not on top ...when you give exams in school the kid who get 95 % will be first and who will get 50% will be just pass...we cannot say lets make this kid who got 50% first place because he worked very hard , was up whole night ...do we??😕

Originally posted by: gauri_2

Jaya, connecting with voting public and then winning based on public votes may provide temporary recognition but at the end of the day, you got to be best among the herd to survive cut throat competition. Who is going to remember Sandeep Acharya five years down the lane......Karunya will shine stronger with time. Talent should not be compromised just because public likes some x-factor of the singer. Public can connect to contestants by voting on non-singing attributes and let the music expert judges do the singing talent judgment.

You said it Gauri - I am saying, getting Karunya the recognition is lot lot more important.. we all know Sandeep will not make it big and neither is it important... The reason Karunya has got such an early break in 'Lage Raho..' was not just because he is a good singer (well we had many such great singers previously as well)... The reason is that the platform of II because of the public involvement has given him the recognition and has given him the break!

Thanks for bringing up a good example... That is what I and many others have been trying to say.. The winner is not even important.. all he gets is some money and a stupid contract !!!

I donot belive in public voting as well - to decide the real talent - winner of singing competetion ( SRGMP, II, FG etc )

Example is in front of us - Best contestants - Nihira, Hema , Hrishikesh, Rahul Saxsena, Karunya......they got voted out.

I strongly belive that neutral and knowledgable judges should judge the contest like SRGMP and viewers/participants relatives shouldnot have any say in results.

Public voting can be done , just to show the popularity of a contestants but not to decide talented winner on base of popularity ( popularity could be for many other reasons - and not just singing ) !!!

just my opinion.... 😊