The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 81

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Posted: 7 years ago
Thanks to all readers for making this thread hit a century 😃. Yes I write, but the contributions of others are not less for making people to come to this thread. It's pleasure that after SKR and Beyhadh, this thread of mine in RKC has also become a success.
@Shreya, Simran, Mangothyme I completely agree to Dheeru's version of Sudha trapping Baldev who was a playboy. I dont think it was a lie. What happened after that is the mystery. On how much truth Dheeru has told. it can be as Shreya says hearsay which I also thought. Or is it as Mangothyme says Dheeru knows more about the real story but has not revealed as he has ulterior motive. I am not sure. Dheeru has plans and his son is also a pawn in that plans. Dheeru loved Jyothi Adhi's mom, there are no two ways about it. Because when Adhi lashes at his dad, he goes to his room and speaks to his wife asking her support to help him explain to his son what were the conditions that prompted him to take that decision. Whatever little Adhi had spoken of Jyothi I understand she was a remarkable woman as she wanted her son to fight for justice and unlike Sudha who manipulates Narotham would have been the guiding light for Adhi to become CBI officer. Path of justice the right way, or rather through law.

@Mangothyme it is not that Adhi distrusted his father. But he has his instincts. And he follows that. He listens to his heart than the head, where Dheeru had told he attended Purushottam's funeral. It is because of the funeral aspect Adhi believes Purushottam would have changed identity.
Coming to Satrupa she is bahu of LM. Unfortunately many women like her believe that it is their duty to safeguard the prestige of her marital family and go any extend for it. She has to be shaken out of it, and I feel only Ladoo can do it.

@Shreya if you have to change something in a place, first you have to know the ways of that place and then slowly change at appropriate places. So that you give something good and also take something good in that place. Satrupa makes effort to bring Kachori for Ladoo and Ladoo slowly tries to take the breakfast other people of LM has so that he becomes part of that place. It was good that Satrupa teached Ladoo to use Please and address the cook as Maharajji. It shows Satrupa is used to giving respect to people if they do their work properly and unlike Avdhoot and Pujan who treats workers as slaves she doesnt mind the occasional indulgence for them. As Satrupa had no issues when Anami took a saree for Poonam.

@factfictionmyth welcome to this thread. Happy to see you dear. Actually I have so much to write about Beyhadh in retrospective. I mean how the concept of Maya or illusion was used throughout the script. There is much more than what I have analyzed. But leave that. I dont want to go back to that forum 😃. It had taken all my patience to maintain that thread till the end. This show is more about relations and how the choices affects the relation. It has much more clarity of characters than Beyhadh. Reason is nothing, this explores the complex relations and Beyhadh explored the complex concept of Maya. Do join the discussion and put your points

@Vidya for me Satrupa and Dheeru are important, they are like guiding light. They failed in some aspect and learned and they want to ensure their wards dont repeat the mistake and are able to build a better future.


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Posted: 7 years ago
I love reading your analysis everyday
i am loving the fight between satrupa and sudha in the serial

they both are maniplulative but satrupa has a heart and will take care of ladoo while sudha wants to kill anami

Anami is pure heart . She is stupid of labeling everything as black and white and not trusting her mother

finally she is suspecting sudha

I feel sudha was the one who killed vatsalya
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Posted: 7 years ago
@teddy luv Anami doesnt know grey. Actually both Satrupa and Sudha are grey. If one is dusk, other is dawn. As of now Anami is trusting dusk, but soon she will understand dawn.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Narottam has love in heart despite being Sudha's son. It seems he had love for Vatsalya too.Poor soul, caught between hIs mother and LM. Both are using him, both giving him pain. Hope he takes up Satrupa's offer and makes something out if his life.Though she is using him, Satrupa is trying to giSatrupa is trying to give him a fair deal unlike his mother who, it seems gave birth to him for her revenge.
Narottam is not a love child.He will turn around when he realises this.Anami and Laddoo have 3 shields Satrupa, Adhi and Narottam

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another thing is acc to narottam vatsalya knew narottam was meeting sudha and yet did not reveal this to anyone. But i fail to understand why would narottam let vatsalya know about it and take the risk of exposing sudha before time. Or is he lying😕
pujan said baldev maried sudha but acc to dhiru's version vikram sent away baldev to US before this happened. so what exactly is the truth


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Posted: 7 years ago
@usha Narotham has to realize where his goodness lies. We need to understand finally Satrupa is forced to reach out to him. She could have done it earlier, but she didnt. But Anami is making her do it as Satrupa has realized only through a fair deal to Narotham things can be settled and Narotham cannot be faulted for what his parents did.
@naq a marriage need not be legal. It can be private also. Vatsalya might have met Sudha. He was a teenager and knew who Narotham is.He had relation with Narotham. So he might have taken Vatsalya once as per his request. Of course the teenager in Vatsalya would have been curious to see Narotham mom.
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@usha Narotham has to realize where his goodness lies. We need to understand finally Satrupa is forced to reach out to him. She could have done it earlier, but she didnt. But Anami is making her do it as Satrupa has realized only through a fair deal to Narotham things can be settled and Narotham cannot be faulted for what his parents did.

@naq a marriage need not be legal. It can be private also. Vatsalya might have met Sudha. He was a teenager and knew who Narotham is.He had relation with Narotham. So he might have taken Vatsalya once as per his request. Of course the teenager in Vatsalya would have been curious to see Narotham mom.

yes but Sudha is a big thing in LM . Vatsalya would have known his family hates her specially his mom and he was not a rebel like anami is. And Why did narottam take the risk of letting her identity out😕 specially when sudha had kept herself hidden. If Sudha is the one that killed vatsalya maybe not revealing sudha to the family cost vatsalya his life

re marriage if pujan knows about it wouldnt dhiru know too about the private marriage.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I'm bit confused with Vat's meeting Sudha.
Vatsalya says in his diary, he never mustered the corage to ask Narrotam to ask about his nocturnal visits and Narrottam said y'day he caught him & took him to Sudha once

Time to a apply soa logic?
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi


@Shreya if you have to change something in a place, first you have to know the ways of that place and then slowly change at appropriate places. So that you give something good and also take something good in that place. Satrupa makes effort to bring Kachori for Ladoo and Ladoo slowly tries to take the breakfast other people of LM has so that he becomes part of that place. It was good that Satrupa teached Ladoo to use Please and address the cook as Maharajji. It shows Satrupa is used to giving respect to people if they do their work properly and unlike Avdhoot and Pujan who treats workers as slaves she doesnt mind the occasional indulgence for them. As Satrupa had no issues when Anami took a saree for Poonam.



Yes. That's the difference between Satrupa and Sudha, which Anami needs to see. On one hand, Satrupa, even if she's using Ladoo, is teaching and raising Ladoo right. She's teaching him manners, English, math, and good morales. On the other hand, Sudha is just using Ladoo. The day Anami sees this is the day she will finally understand what Satrupa really is and who she should really be supporting and working with.
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29/11/2017

Sudha one thing you told correct. Only Krishna knows about his Leela. His Leela can be understood only by those whom he deems fit to understand it. Most important Sudha, Narayan is in defense position of the person who has held his hand with utmost trust. He will be in front of you. But before right time you wont see him. The moment you see him, power would have gone from your hand. So play with your Maya. What did you say Karna didnt get rights and Duri gave him rights. Which MB you are teaching kids. Karna never wanted any kingdom in first place. He wanted an equal oppourtunity to showcase his archery skills. He wanted to be proven the best archer. Duri saw a potential candidate in him against Arjuna and offered him kingdom and status. Yes it was a friendship, but then it was a friendship that blossomed on personal needs. Duri made Karna indebted to him so that he couldnt move away even after knowing what is happening is not right. Karna was never in for the way Abhi was killed. But he had to do it.
Now coming to Abhi. Arjuna was reluctant fighter of MB, not Abhi. Abhi knew the situation in hand and with freewill he chose to enter Chakravyuha and fight. None forced him. It was the need of the battle that made Abhi take the leadership on crucial thirteenth day. Victory is not everything. if it was then Kauravas would have won the war after merclilessly killing Abhi in the Chakravyuh. Everything is not fair in love and war. If it was then Duri would have been the king of Hastinapura post kurushetra. The path matters and the kingdom came to the people who followed Lord Krishna's direction. So Madam keep your version of MB with yourself. The victory is for those on whose side is dharma and where dharma is there Narayana is there. If Narayan is there wealth is already there and so is Rudra. It is only matter of time before Shakthi joins her husband and brother.

Coming to Pujan, well this guy is now really stepping on the opening Sudha has given him. He says four investors has given guarantee. I loved four investors, the 4 pillars of life, the 4 purusharth. Dharma, artha, kama, moksha or rather knowledge , wealth, power and if you use these 3 things right way you get the fourth pillar called peace. But Baldev is going to take Purusharth the wrong way and he is going to pay for it. Baldev is going to get land in his name. Pujan says what Baldev did with Dheeru, they will do with him. So whatever happened to Dheeru, Baldev was behind it. Yes it is the jealousy of more competent person than he himself is.

Satrupa, the project manager in me simply adored this woman today. Yes she is bringing Narotham to her side. But instead of destroying him, she is trying to ensure he gets some share in that family. She is finally acknowledging all said and done he is Baldev blood. Then for Ladoo she sends him to English school. I loved the way Ladoo threw tantrums. The same way Anami threw tantrums at Satrupa and siding with Sudha. Yes Ladoo has not seen Satrupa's different face, but then Satrupa is not doing any harm for Ladoo. She is just sending him to learn something. Yes Ladoo will be competent. I would say more competent as he learns the way of LM. Because he is willing to change and adapt. Once again Satrupa guarantees nothing will happen to Ladoo. Somewhere Satrupa will have to play with fire for keeping this word.

Adhi has zeroed in on a man who seems to be Purushottam. But how did Munna get this video. Somewhere I feel Dheeru is behind Munna. So that Adhi is led in a path Dheeru wants him to go for some motive of Dheeru.

Last but not the least the touching scene of Baldev and Anami. Baldev has really thawed to his daughter. He was willing to talk to her. He talked about his son and she talked about her brother. Now the interesting point was the photo. it was with Baldev. Vatsalya had wanted it. So Baldev is not aware when he took it, he assumes Vatsalya has taken it. What if that pic was kept by Satrupa. Satrupa knows Anami. What if Naina had seen Sudha keeping those photos in the almirah and then changed that photo. Anami took that photo and then she questioned. Else how did that photo which was in Baldev hand ended up with Sudha. Only possibility is Narotham stole it. What was the need when Narotham could have taken enough and more from Vatsalya room which was much easier option. Most important Anami asked Baldev a question. Why he doesnt accept Narotham and Baldev told he reminds him of his mistake and he is used for blackmail. So more than what Sudha did, what Vikku did to him had affected his relation with Narotham. Because he was disinherited, becuase dheeru, Satrupa became more important than him, his hatred for Narotham grew as every minute Narotham reminded him, what he lost because of his birth. So there are enough points for Anami to ponder over. Let us see where she goes.

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