STR Contest Task 3 : Debate : SA vs WW - Page 2

Created

Last reply

Replies

49

Views

4.1k

Users

10

Likes

118

Frequent Posters

panchan thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#11
You're talking about "one" of the many definitions that say "Honesty is being truthful". But the others?"Free of deceit" and "sincere" is another definitions to honesty, and according to them, the moral truth behind the lie comes into consideration.

Talking about money,
Money is a material possession, a mere entity, a human item that has us twirling in loops aimlessly. Money will come and go; it will swim circles around the ocean of market routes, but a deed that influences expression, such as telling the truth will remain perpetual. Being honest can be hard, and then pay off, but, being dishonest can pay off, but then drive you insane.
Anonymous_K thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: KaYa_licious

We only need to cheat when we have less knowledge about any subject

And Less knowledge results bad
Have you ever read cases of medical negligence..?
Doctor has less knowledge about the topic and he results in damaging the individual instead of curing him/her.
I will love to get less mark than to be the reason of someone's death...


@bold 1: Less knowledge?? Well my dear friend, knowledge was, is and will always be less about any topic and this is why after schools we go to colleges and then universities... Knowledge is a never ending ocean.

@bold 2: Well, that's really generous of you to think that way... but ever practically implemented it?? This is what I had mentioned in one of my previous posts. You saying this is akin to Thought Experiment in Physics- theoretically possible but experimentally not feasible.
Humans are social animals but ANIMALS and those organisms are driven by their primal instinct of survival and this is also an example of survival...
Anonymous_K thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: KaYa_licious

Ok If you are going to give clean chit to UPA Government..
Can you predict that they are going to win next elections..

All the matters are cleared ..They should win na..
But you can't predict this.
Because Indian citizens are the most important part of Indian government
And they are evident of their dishonesty.
Dishonesty is the major reason of downfall of UPA government...
Because none of us want to be rule by someone who love to fill his safes rather than providing the things to citizens which is their right...


@Bold 1: There Con agrees with my view point.. All that matters is winning and even according to her ones honesty does not account for it.. then why should one be honest when one's future is at stake?? Why shouldn't one adopt dishonest practices like buying votes if it can assure ones win??

@ Bold 2: Con agrees with my viewpoint of that to prove one dishonest you need evidences.

Exactly my dear you need evidences to prove someones dishonesty. You cannot quote examples of people you've never had an encounter with. You see the News everyday that updates you of the various wrongdoings and that is how you form your perception. So quoting people you've never met as being honest seems vague here.
panchan thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#14
Be honest and you are accused to be cruel and tactless.
I would rather say, be dishonest and get caught, and then the consequences will drive you insane! How will be the life you will lead when you're back from the prison, accused of stealing property or taking a bribe? You think you'll have loads of money sitting in your bank account still? Would your family like or prefer living with a criminal? Would you ever get a job? This is being practical!

When you have millions sitting in your bank you have no worries. You can live a worry free life just be living off the interest for the rest of the life.

Money is not as important as we think when we have other values to maintain. Everyone unfailingly keeps on referring to the world around us and the absolute necessity of establishing financial strength. We continue on to look at the authoritarian culture of society and our desire to adjust to the background. We are the victims of society and slaves of our commercial requirements. Stop looking at the people around you, stop looking at the society around you and at the world around you and look at the person within you. Psychologically, the functions of our mind labor in the same way they did thousands of years ago; we still have the same needs and wants and our spiritual requirements are the same. Once you're caught for being dishonest, all the millions in you bank will fly away and circle another market! Who knows..it might knock the door of a honest, sincere man?

What would you prefer, to be an old man hanging on to life, sitting on your rocking chair in a grand room filled with cynics, skeptics and hypocrites you call friends begging for money from you or be next to your brothers and sisters and laughing and smiling despite your empty pockets. And when you are ashes, would your funeral be a gigantic rich one surrounded by thousands of greedy men, tycoons and scoundrels, or a humble funeral with few friends and family that actually cared for you that were there beside you when you took your last breath even when you didn't have a cent to offer.

807116 thumbnail
Posted: 10 years ago
#15

Edited by flipfl0p - 10 years ago
panchan thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 10 years ago
#16
I would also quote the above post to one point you said, "Poverty is a carcinogen", and why are people poor now-a-days? Its because of people growing dishonest and stealing money from the poor that this is happening? If you do read such articles, why continue being dishonest? Thats called being selfish, you want people to die?! You seriously think the kind of friends you will have beside you will stick by you in your hard times? Who'll be there to help you? Another bribe to an officer? But what if you get into the hands of an honest officer? Hah! You will never get over the fear of being caught!
InkAndFable thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Anonymous_K


@bold 1: Less knowledge?? Well my dear friend, knowledge was, is and will always be less about any topic and this is why after schools we go to colleges and then universities... Knowledge is a never ending ocean.

I agree with you 'knowlege is never ending process'
But dear if less knowledge is not bad then why we go to universities and take degree of Ph.D
Less knowledge is not bad
Then we should study Biology in Science 12th and become doctor
We are able to cure them ..
No, we can't do this
Because the thing comes on sufficient and less than sufficient.
And yes you asked about cheating in exams..
If I morally consider it, then I don't think that one should not take right of someone who is better than him/her.

@bold 2: Well, that's really generous of you to think that way... but ever practically implemented it?? This is what I had mentioned in one of my previous posts. You saying this is akin to Thought Experiment in Physics- theoretically possible but experimentally not feasible.
Humans are social animals but ANIMALS and those organisms are driven by their primal instinct of survival and this is also an example of survival...


If you consider experiments...
We do experiments for the purpose of gaining knowledge .
I talked about ignoring the fact
If my book has the point that one of the nerve which connected heart with spinal cord and we should handle carefully while heart surgery
But we write about the point with the help of our classmate in exam.
Now, you have to do heart surgery and you didn't handle it carefully.
The person got paralysed as result.
Then tel me..do your cheating give any benefit to you..
Anonymous_K thumbnail
10th Anniversary Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: panchan

You're talking about "one" of the many definitions that say "Honesty is being truthful". But the others?"Free of deceit" and "sincere" is another definitions to honesty, and according to them, the moral truth behind the lie comes into consideration.

Talking about money,
Money is a material possession, a mere entity, a human item that has us twirling in loops aimlessly. Money will come and go; it will swim circles around the ocean of market routes, but a deed that influences expression, such as telling the truth will remain perpetual. Being honest can be hard, and then pay off, but, being dishonest can pay off, but then drive you insane.


@bold 1: Wikipedia defines lie as "a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false." How can this be morally correct and have moral truth behind it?? Explain please!
While taking about "HONESTY" how can you ask a person to adopt a certain policy that is double faced?? On one hand you say that honesty is being truthful and on the other hand you also suggest that people can lie if they are MORALLY CORRECT?? This doesn't makes any sense!

@bold 2: Sitting in AC facilitated rooms one can never define what money is. Ask a farmer who works day and night in his farms shedding sweat only to earn a single penny..
@red: Income of money, it's expenditure and saving of the same depends on an individual. If a person earns more, spends less and saves more then I can foresee only money coming his way rather than going.

@blue: If earning a single penny while working tediously day and night, watching your kids malnourished, unable to fulfill the fundamental requirements of life is your definition of happiness then honesty can certainly give you happiness... but is it the case that we come across?? The feeling that bubbles inside you watching your loved ones hale and hearty is what the meaning of happiness in today's era is which comes from money.
federized2210 thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 10 years ago
#19
Participants, u have about 5 more minutes to present your views. Once the topic is declared closed, the views we receive after that shall not be counted.
InkAndFable thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 10 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Anonymous_K


@Bold 1: There Con agrees with my view point.. All that matters is winning and even according to her ones honesty does not account for it.. then why should one be honest when one's future is at stake?? Why shouldn't one adopt dishonest practices like buying votes if it can assure ones win??

I am not agreeing on your point..
I just asked you a question...
First try to understand its essence


@ Bold 2: Con agrees with my viewpoint of that to prove one dishonest you need evidences.

Exactly my dear you need evidences to prove someones dishonesty. You cannot quote examples of people you've never had an encounter with. You see the News everyday that updates you of the various wrongdoings and that is how you form your perception. So quoting people you've never met as being honest seems vague here.


2. You told me to clear every evidences ...But can you clear the evidences of their sufferings...??
Jews should respect Hitler na...On papers he is very good persons but Jews know what they had suffered and they never considered him good...Hom much you try to praise them...they will never be agree with your point.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".