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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
Fantastic thread!!!
Loved the way all the things are falling in place
Love the pace too, because I dont want this track stretched any more.

Today I was totally floored by PaRud punchbag scene, the highlight for me being Sanny's flawless dialogue delivery and the intensity with which she delivered them. I felt the punch of her dialogues more than bannasa's punches😆

I was also very impressed with KaliPrasad Mukherjee, he is a fantastic actor.

I am in a rush and will not be around on IF much for next 6 weeks starting tomorrow.
Off on a vacation to Cincinnati and then India.

Enjoy!!!


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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

Hi Sush!

I will post what I posted in another thread:

"I applaud Mala for leaving her abusive husband, that takes a lot of courage and strength, but I don't know why she didn't show the same courage and strength when fighting for her son. How could she leave Rudra with the man she knew was abusive? If Tejawat's truth hadn't been revealed to Mala she may never have come back to the Ranawat haveli again. So how could she go her whole life thinking Rudra will be ok, with such a terrible father? How did she even think that if she met Rudra he would welcome her with open arms? If she left him with an abusive man did she not think Rudra would also be abused? Where was her concern for his well-being?

Also, I don't understand why the CVs had to make Dilsher so black in order to justify Mala running away. So a husband has to be abusive and downright cruel in order for a woman to be able to run away? Why can't a woman just run away because her marriage is loveless and she found love elsewhere? This is what is really demeaning women in my opinion, showing that women cannot do what their heart desires (find love elsewhere) unless they have a damn good reason for it (an abusive, cruel husband)." Following your heart is unacceptable unless your reason for doing so can be accepted by your community/society?

Anyway, I don't buy that Dilsher changed so drastically because he met Paro and was overwhelmed by her goodness 😆. If Paro's goodness was so pure and influential why wasn't Mala's goodness enough to change the man? Mala and Paro are very similar. Something else I wrote in another thread: "Dilsher was pretty much kind to Paro even before he really knew her. He was good to her from their first meeting, let's be real, he didn't change suddenly in one meeting because as soon as he met Paro he sensed all this goodness in her." It was very unrealistic how Dilsher credited solely Paro for his change from a bitter, angry, abusive man to a calm, understanding, loving man. Please, who is he kidding?

And Paro was lying to herself when she said Rudra always treated women right no matter how he felt about them. What happened to Rudra calling her shameless and whatnot? That was him disrespecting a woman based on his own prejudices wasn't it?

Sorry for sounding so negative but I was cheering Mohini today...her taunts were valid and to be honest they all really did need someone to say these truths to their faces. 😆

P.S. I also hated how Dilsher slapped Rudra and then tells Paro not to run after her hubby...tells her something like his mind will sit in the right place when he is alone...who is Dilsher to say all of this?? As if Rudra is the wrong one here?? And especially to Paro?? Paro you're Rudra's wife and if you think Rudra needs you then you go to him, no matter who thinks otherwise.



You are bang on Zeelicious...said everything that I wanted to say...it feels great when you decide to write something & find out that someone else has penned exactly what you were planning to write.
As of now what we have seen, Mala failed big time 'as a mother.' Her leaving Dilsher is 100% justified but leaving her son with a drunkard , hot tempered husband can not be justified...She gave up after a month which she did not have to.A mother would move heaven & earth for her child but that wasn't the case with her. Ok fine, she did it but should she be glorified as a woman ? A BIG NO,in my opinion. ...I will quote a dialouge from a movie here," Ek patni bewafa ho sakti hai, Ek beti bewafa ho sakti hai, par Ek maa kabhi bewafa nahin ho sakti." In one of the dialogues Paro had told Rudra that thakurain maasa taught her " pyar mein tyag aur balidan "...I don't see that anywhere. Even not trying hard to get her son can be digested if her glorification isn't shoved down our throats.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra

Zee , Diana , Llin , Malini for you girls ...




Thank you UR... Major Saab looks Drooling HOT 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Why this kolaveri Di...to sush? Shwets? I like the picture too!😃


Thanks Shweta.
Sush, aren't you the default one here, do we need to mention your name specifically. Everything here is for you.
Malini
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Hope

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Hi Sush, good to have you back... Thank You, for making the post 🤗. Awesome post. I liked how you bluntly and perfectly said it, Dilsher was a Loser and used his wife to feel superior. Nothing more, nothing less. And like you said, there is no right or wrong in this story.. It just is 😔. I totally loved the flow of story today. It felt very realistic. All the actors did an excellent Job...👏

The story started exactly where it stopped yesterday... The shock and hurt in Rudra's eyes was quite visible 😕. What was happening around him? The two people he trusted and loved the most are against him? Paro, he can understand. She is innocent and too emotional to see Mala for her true self. But his father??? He asks the same, "You hit me for this lady?"And Dilsher reminds him that she is his mother... Confused and now angry, he questions his father, "How can he call her his mother? Isn't he the one who called her just a beautiful woman who belongs to or cares for no one." He reminds him that it was he who filled him with this venom for 15 years... And finally that breaks Dilsher's silence as he tries to clarify to his son. To speak the truth. Come clean about what exactly happened 15 years back. But Rudra was not ready to listen to his father.. He sticks to his version of truth and he doesn't want to listen to anything else... Can't blame him for that...


I liked how Mala told Dilsher that he shouldn't have slapped Rudra... I support her on that. But I also agree that Rudra was to be stopped at that point before he said something to his mother which he would regret later. Words, once said can never be taken back. So, I am happy that he was stopped, though I didn't like the way it happened. This is what we call bad circumstances.. Desperate times which make us do and say unwanted things.. Situations which leave us no choice but to react in our own way. Be it good or bad.. And this was one such bad situation. I liked how naturally everything in that scene played out.


What followed was Dilsher and his repentance. He finally was ready to give Mala back the dignity and respect she deserved.. He agreed that he made up all those things about Mala, that it was his Male ego which made him do and say those things about her. Because, he was hurt when she left him. But what was actually hurt was not he, her husband but the Male ego in him.. So he satisfied his ego by blaming it all on her... By telling his son again and again about how bad a mother and wife she was 😒. But then, what changed?? He did... His perspective did. The way Rudra behaved with Paro... Reminded him of his past mistakes... The way Paro held on to her Love and changed Rudra... Made him realize how wrong he was as a husband... That he never actually loved/appreciated Mala, his wife. He repented realizing what he turned his son into, just for the sake of boosting his ego 🤔. The beauty was, how the story unfolded. Very realistic and believable... And I totally liked that about today's episode. Hats Off to the writers and the Dialogue writers... You were Fantastic as ever.👏


Paro Rocked today... She was as always 'Bang On'👍🏼. She directly points out Rudra, his mistake. I totally liked how she straight away said that this was not the Rudra she fell in love with.. Her Rudra knew what not to say.. He knew right from wrong... But when he refused to understand. She gave him the example of a story he already knew... Their Story. Reminded him that, she was a widow once.. May be the marriage was all a sham but she didn't know it then... And she, being a widow, stayed in a strangers house, shared a room with a man, called herself his to be wife... And when the truth indeed come out... She dreamed of having a life with the person who killed her namesake husband... So, What is she to be called?🤔


Now, now we all know that Rudra hates it when she mentions her name sake husband. So, he tries to stop her from speaking more about it. Clarifies that the one who married her was never her husband, that she was never actually a widow, that she is his... (I so wished that he completed that sentence😳). But Paro was not ready to leave it at that. She reminds him that he hated her then.. Who knows what he thought about her then??? And, he warns her... To never degrade herself. Threatens her with her life, if she ever spoke like that about herself. Confirms, that he never thought about her in such way 😛... And that was all Paro needed to hear. She questions him, "Then why did he think like that today? How did he get such a word into his mind? That too for a lady who brought him into this world" Finally concludes telling him what he needs to do... To apologize. Not because Mala was her Maa sa, Not because she loves Mala but because Mala was a woman, because she deserved some respect irrespective of her actions, because Rudra is not right to speak so low of her, because she was the lady who gave birth to Rudra.. Even though he doesn't consider her his mother... this fact will never change.


Like I mentioned in yesterday's post... Dilsher has to speak up first for Mala to say her story.. And it happened today.. CV's, you did a fantastic job 👏. Finally, we got to hear Mala's actual story. So, Dilsher was an insecure, egoistic and self centered Man... Why am I not surprised??? Because many Indian men fall into this category😔. He used to blame his wife for his failures and vent his frustration on her... Perfect😡. I felt sorry for Mala when she said she thought it will all change with Rudra entering their life... How many women say themselves the same thing to stay in an abusive relationship?? But, unfortunately it only got worse with his injury... More taunts, more abuse, more hatred, more venom... So much that she finally decides to walk away... Can I blame her for that? No. To walk out of such relationship takes true courage and I appreciate Mala for showing that.. 👏


And between all this chaos in her life she found Thakur, quiet contrast to the man in her life... Gentle, loving, caring, respecting, sharing same passion for kavita's as her... Can't blame her for being friendly with him or even if she was attracted to him. We humans are simple beings. We crave for love (Any kind) and subconsciously get attracted to it.. When a man can find himself another partner because he is in a loveless relationship... Then, Is it wrong for a woman doing the same? Any way, it is too early to say anything. We still don't know, if Mala left haveli for thakur or just to get away from her husband's abuse? And if she was indeed in love with him when she left?? Because today she just said they used to meet and talk about kavita's... Also, what I really want to know is, why she didn't try to get Rudra back?? What did she do and didn't do to get her son? I guess all my questions will be answered tomorrow... With Rudra asking them the same. I feel sorry for Rudra.... Every thing he believed in till date, everything he was told till date... was all a lie. Just like Paro in Tejawat's case.


I loved the fact that Rudra heard everything or at least most of what Mala said... We don't see that often in Tele land.. Like, right person in right place at right time...No Way. 😆


I hated Mohini for her taunts... The way she insulted Mala and Dilsher again and again😡... But that was who she is...


I loved the subtle smile of pride on Mala's face when Dilsher praised Paro and said that she changed him.😊


I know, I keep repeating it again and again but the Dialogue writers are amazing... The dialogues add more intensity and power to each and every scene making it more and more better... Thank You...👏


Sanaya ad Ashish were fantastic as always... Every actor today did an awesome job and gave us a great episode...👏


Shweta, Lovely collages...👏👏👏 ... LOVE YOU🤗


AWESOME post Minnu! 👏

You have written about everything so beautifully...
My only addition is...
If DS was such a loser...why is Mohini still regretting his loss to her sister?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Malini1


Thanks Shweta.
Sush, aren't you the default one here, do we need to mention your name specifically. Everything here is for you.
Malini


Yes yes...I know...
Was just being a little like Rudy...who wants to be told how much he is loved and how important he is ...every single time...😆

And THAT is when Shwets already makes and gives me so many of her collages ...There is no limit to wanting attention...is there?
Edited by -Sush- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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What a wonderful post ...

The beauty of this story is...that
There are no right answers in this story...
It just is...the way it is...

How true ... that's the way life is in real too ... isn't it?

And that's why I love all of the characters in this show. How they are written by the CVs and how they are characterized by the actors. I don't need to pick sides because I can see all of the characters are well written ... that they are the way they are due to their life experiences ... which in turn influence their actions and their understanding of the world.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: babyji



You are bang on Zeelicious...said everything that I wanted to say...it feels great when you decide to write something & find out that someone else has penned exactly what you were planning to write.
As of now what we have seen, Mala failed big time 'as a mother.' Her leaving Dilsher is 100% justified but leaving her son with a drunkard , hot tempered husband can not be justified...She gave up after a month which she did not have to.A mother would move heaven & earth for her child but that wasn't the case with her. Ok fine, she did it but should she be glorified as a woman ? A BIG NO,in my opinion. ...I will quote a dialouge from a movie here," Ek patni bewafa ho sakti hai, Ek beti bewafa ho sakti hai, par Ek maa kabhi bewafa nahin ho sakti." In one of the dialogues Paro had told Rudra that thakurain maasa taught her " pyar mein tyag aur balidan "...I don't see that anywhere. Even not trying hard to get her son can be digested if her glorification isn't shoved down our throats.


Thanks Babyji! 😊 I feel you 😃

Thanks for sharing that dialogue, it's quite touching! I'm not a mother myself but I can imagine how much love and protectiveness most mothers feel for their children! Enough to move heaven and earth for them...

You make a very good point...Mala's selfish and weak actions can be accepted, yes, she is who she is and everyone makes bad choices, some worse than others. What I can't stand, like you said, is that her actions are justified and she is glorified despite all the crap she has done and that glorification is shoved down our throats! Like no. I will NOT accept that Mala is a great person and an amazing mother (like Paro says) despite all that she has done!!

And she hasn't even apologized once for her actions...saying 'you know...maybe...just maybe...what I did was wrong' is not enough.🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Sush and Girls, loved reading all the posts and wonderful comments, nice to read and understand different views. I liked the episode ignoring some inconsistencies, the highpoint was Paro/Rudra interaction. Way to go Paro bhaisa.
Shweta, as always your collages are mesmerizing.
Malini
P.S Didn't both Major and Paro looked stunning today. Paro was gorgeous in blue and Major was droolworthy with sweat all over his grumpy face.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo


Thanks Babyji! 😊 I feel you 😃

Thanks for sharing that dialogue, it's quite touching! I'm not a mother myself but I can imagine how much love and protectiveness most mothers feel for their children! Enough to move heaven and earth for them...

You make a very good point...Mala's selfish and weak actions can be accepted, yes, she is who she is and everyone makes bad choices, some worse than others. What I can't stand, like you said, is that her actions are justified and she is glorified despite all the crap she has done and that glorification is shoved down our throats! Like no. I will NOT accept that Mala is a great person and an amazing mother (like Paro says) despite all that she has done!!

And she hasn't even apologized once for her actions...saying 'you know...maybe...just maybe...what I did was wrong' is not enough.🤢



This is what I feel too... Somewhere mala is being given a long rope...I now want tejawat to come back for just a week and show the cosy realities of their wedded bliss to Ranawat which paro has forgotten...then later he may be killed off or arrested ... Don't know...but he should be back ASAP..

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