WHY Mala Matters ALREADY, and will matter MORE. - Page 4

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Are you saying it is only a mother's job to bring up her son or daughter? because I would argue that a father, more than a mother shapes a man's life when he is a teenager, when he is a young adult.

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I am assuming that Mala did not live as the Thakurain for fifteen years in a traditional village like Birpur with a very proud, aristocratic man like the Thakur without being married to him legally. If she has--well, well well... Mala has committed multiple acts of adultery and every time she bows before her God, she has already become a thorough hypocrite. But honestly-- I doubt the CVs would do this to her character.


I cannot NOT blame Dilsher. He blames himself. Rudra blames him. His own actions right now show that he is trying to UNDO damage he has himself caused. Not damage Mala caused, but things he himself poured into his defense-less, vulnerable and shattered son. Things he did, poisonous hatred and distrust he instilled into Rudra because he had no one else around him to use to vent out his anger and hatred for his runaway wife. Every time Rudra cried or was violent as a child, was an opportunity for Dilsher to soothe his son, to tell him he is loved, to tell him to not lose faith, trust in love, in family, trust in Fate and god. TO LESSEN abandonment the child is feeling.


Lets look at what Dilsher has done, as opposed to what he is NOW doing. He wrenches Rudra away from the Haveli, within weeks of Mala leaving them. He takes Rudra away from the only home he has known, leaving behind two brothers, and a baby sister who could have been his family. He removes his loving uncle from Rudra's life- an uncle who would have given Rudra support, unconditional affection, would have been a father even if Dilsher was too broken to do the job himself.

He does not want Rudra to hear Mohini's taunts or the whispers in Chandigarth? Great. he removes his son--and then spends 15 years telling him about khoobsurat auraats and filling him with a twisted hatred and longing for his mother's affection and a rage and bitterness towards life to the point that the son becomes a killing machine.


Are you saying it is only a mother's job to bring up her son or daughter? because I would argue that a father, more than a mother shapes a man's life when he is a teenager, when he is a young adult. Every child clings to their mother AS A CHILD - that is natural and beautiful. But the kind of man you turn out to be as an adult is heavily influenced by the kind of man your father is. For example, men in abusive households where the mother or sisters are victims of domestic violence 9 times out of 10 grown up to be abusive themselves--its a sad, and chillingly true fact.

A father who respects and cherishes the women in his life--who educates his daughters, loves his wife, is kind to his sisters and protective of his women --that father will more than likely have a son who, in turn, respects women, gives them due importance and protects them too.

I am not saying Mala did not start the avalanche that resulted in Rudra. She has been established as a breathtakingly selfish woman, and a bad mother to Rudra--I agree with that assessment. I am saying--Dilsher had the DUTY to take what Mala did to him and his son onto his own chest. He had the "farz" to absorb his anger, bitterness and resentment and still be a father to his son. To give him an upbringing that was normal. He had no right to selfishly indulge in 15 years of grief and bitterness, no right to be abusive to his son, who lost as much as Dilsher did when Mala left, and with far less probable cause.


Rudra was the only innocent one in all this. He, a defenseless child, was first physically abandoned, then emotionally abused, with no other family members left to help him out as he suffered. This happened through his father and mother, both. Through selfishness, on both parts. Let them both pay, by BEING good parents to him now, for what they did not do for him then.

Originally posted by: zeffy2k2

Dear Navin ji,

"I wold go so far as to say---Mala needed to abandon Rudra to create who he has become now as well."

Having not watched yesteday's episode, but having a real time 10 yr experience for having a teacher as a mom, who could only meet up once a year, to a certain extent, I know allows me to agree a 100% with your above said words.

Ofcourse I have my flaws, but in the end where I stand today is crucially only because of her sacrifice. She is one who made me and my brother independent and handle things maturely. Heck, we were so bad as kids that literally, we never shed a drop of tear while seeing her off at the airport in those long 10 years. She would weep in silence, but she knew deep down, it was for her kids, for her family, she would go quickly wavng at us, eyes soaked in tears.

As a parent, it becomes their responsiblity to look after their kid, it's the extent to which they go and the measures they take that matters. Sacrificing is their way of bringing us up into strong individuals, In the end if it was not for their hardwork, dedicaton towards family and happiness, why would even a family exsist!!

Mala , as a mother had her reasons, whatever maybe, reasons only a mother would find valid. It was her departure that made Rudra the person who he is today, you have beautifully explained it, it would'nt make any sense to disregard it, she is a mother in the end who directly ya indirectly shapes up this flawed but independent individual.

She abandoned her child would be a disrespect to her mamta, she sacrificed her mamta to bring out this excellent BSD officer, now Major Saab. Does'nt she regret living away from her family? She feels left out in the marriage processions while telling Thakur or she tries to reach out to her son secretly by giving her blessings through passing her butterfly wala kangan via Danveer. She is definitely remorseful, she may have been in the dark, with Thakur sa tricking her, so having her say she is filmy Ma who deserted her child is cannot be justified.

(I am guessing she came back on screen yest) So now I believe she is given a opportunity to redeem herself, explain her sudden departure.

"Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra. How she did it, why she did it will pale before the fact--- she did it."

What she did, what she does and what she will do are all are things that are going to keep us, all the viewers, glued to our screens.

What she did, definitely bruised her child, broke his heart, slowly turned him to Jallad, but deep down we all know he is good-natured, strong-hearted and emotional person who leant how to make the best out of things, but in the hard way. He did not have the opportunity to live a normal childhood, but if he did, do you think he would turn out to the patriotic jawan who would awaken Birpur ke villagers and save Paro? While both Dilsher and Mala had their parts played to the minimum, they are now wise enough to realise their mistakes in the end, is what made him the Jawan he is.

What she does is a matter of concern for us all viewers, is it not? How many of us would be able to sympathize or empathize with her issues, her reasons, her justifications will be matter of discussion from today and many more days to come. She has the right to feel bad, she is a mother after all, she hurt her loving child and she is back to save him, heal his wounds and use Paro as medium of communication, she now knows that her teachings are in the end that are going to help him fight his past, so she has an upper had here, she has Paro, her younger version, who she knows she going to help nuture her son and be able to turn this Jallad into the once loving boy.

What she will do is go to any extents of the universe to have her son back, make him smile, make him happy, bring her family back, get acceptance and forgiveness from Dilsher. She is a mother and a wife, she has a long path ahead and she is definitely not going to back down.

"If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now."

These lines just chap gaye mann mein, you have the magic, just like that you pen down your feelings, but what impact, it leaves us all readers spellbound!!

Yes he needs to fear the wrath of ek Ma ki mamta being stolen, she is going to make him pay big time. She is after all a sherni who would develop "cheer ke rakh doongi" wale tactics to make Thakur sa go weak in his knees. She is now definitely on the look out to protect her cub and thus the hunt shall begin!!

It truly is said Ma hai to jahan hai, afterall she is the centre of our universe, our home.

With that and the 1000+ words rambled I guess to have atleast made 1% ka bhi sense in relation to the above disussion, I do have the serious bimaari of getting carried away!!

Originally posted by: memario

You know maybe not thakur but mala should be scared now maybe its her time to pay like the way they say karma is a bitch..She abandoned her husband and child without even an explanation which she owed to both of them making both their lives hell and lived in luxury so maybe its payment time..Even if she was lets say head over heels for thakur she should have confronted her husband and her son...So did she do wrong? Yes..Does she deserve forgiveness? Yes because everyone does..

Originally posted by: Harshuu

Your justification of Mala's betrayal is OMG. As a kid , Rudra always wanted to be a BSD officer , that's what they showed in one of the flashback episodes. How can anyone justify Mala 's betrayal that resulted in a little boy's nightmare, a chirpy boy who was reduced to nothing but a stone , a boy who grew up before his time . In his age, when other children go out to play, he would wait for him mother to come home. I can go on & on but don't want to because I have already started choking . I would just like to say that if this is the price a child has to pay to become a good BSD officer, independent or whatever then I hope, wish & pray that let every child turn in Sumer or Samrat. BTW, there are a lot of children from happy homes who have done better than Rudra , they didn't turn into Sumers or Samrats & their moms didn't have to abandon them for them to succeed in life & be wonderful human beings.

Originally posted by: zeffy2k2

His nightmare is what turned him into a Jallad, true. But he accepts it gracefully and picks up, he makes the best out of the situation and moves ahead. He could have cried out, waited for his Ma to return, but chose differently.

Rudra did not pay any price is what I would like to disagree with. Life is not a bed of roses for many people, they have their share of problems and life being a lesson teaches us and we being learners need to accept all that is being offered and improve ourselves and not wait and watch. This is someting Rudra learnt at an early age, giving him the upper hand when he was pushed into the harsh reality and he easily stood out, that to with his neck held high. All his pain, his remorse turned him into a better person, and made the people around him proud. Yes, deep down he was broken, shattered but at moment, his duty.work is what made him a respectable person in the end. So you need to get a hold of your emotions and go with flow of things, because in the end you get what you deserve. He deserved respect, love and passion and that is exactly what he earned, he got by meeting Para aka Mrs Rudra Pratap Ranawat.

Sumer and Samrat are different kind of ppl in comparison to Rudra. They had a lovely normal childhood, they had have share of ups and downs and their own way of handling things.

Rudra having a tough childhood had an opportunity to learn to become independent, and figure things out for himself, he was not spoon fed. All good qualities, traits to make a successful BSD officer. He knew, like you say, that he wanted to become an officer right from the beginning, well God in his own twisted way, enhanced his lifestyle, and brought him closer to his goal.

So true is the saying "Kuch Paane ke liye kuch khona padta hai", to earn the life he is living today, with his the woman he loves, he had to sacrifice his childhood. According to him, he is a true winner today!! Yes he is no mood to forgive his mother, like many of us viewers, but in the end they are a Ma and Beta and kabhi na kabhi they will resolve their differences.

"BTW, there are a lot of children from happy homes who have done better than Rudra , they didn't turn into Sumers or Samrats & their moms didn't have to abandon them for them to succeed in life & be wonderful human beings"

I don't want to sound mean, but was that directed towards me? If so, plz don't mind, because in the end the ones going through the sacrifices are the ones who shine brighter and relive those moments like they just hapened yesterday, no regrets, only khao piyo aish karo!!

And yes that is what makes us unique and different from the 7 billion ppl on this planert!!