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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: LOLitaPawar


That is rather convenient..expect something from others,do something else yourself and then when someone points this out then refuse to divulge in a "war of words" with that person.But fine..you shall have your way, I cant make you divulge...though my intention was not to unneccessarily offend, just to state things the way they are and get a response.I failed ofcourse 😆

This post is about logical questions and their answers...not about my bias. And in order to comment on my tendencies, you have to go through my body of writing about this show since day one, which is too much to ask for. Sorry, but your responses reek of personalities and being judgemental about me. And I hate a war of words about fictional characters. If you can logically explain the characters...great, if not why point fingers at me?? 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: AreYaar



Ermm I don't think eveline's point is being understood here...she isn't questioning Paro's silent treatment of Rudra in so much as she is questioning when exactly did this relationship EVER normalize enough for Paro to DEMAND her rights as a wife? You may have wished for these reactions right after the 8 phere wedding but can we just FORGET entire MONTHS of scenes where Paro was on a divine trip and happy almost INSTANTLY after the 8 phere wedding? Umm not so easily forgotten.

Liking Paro's reactions today doesn't take away from the fact that an INCONSISTENCY very much exists and calling a spade a spade is not a crime like this forum generally likes to paint it.

Thank you for really understanding my pov here..and for helping me out...rarely has that happened😆!! And yes, I have time and again pointed Paro's character inconsistency, at the cost of being labeled anti Paro. Very few understand that I protest because I love them and hate to see anyone wreaking havoc with them, just to further an illogical saga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: soulspirit

I seriously fail to understand that when did Paro behave like a WIFE WRONGED,, are we all watching the same episode,, she was just running away from the truth but she came to terms with it too,, Didn she say that She had no right to question Rudra about the things which didn evn happen during her presence,,

The same ppl who wanted her to be HUMAN are actually baffled with her jealousy ,, 🤡


Same question here..are we watching the same show?? Why is Paro shunning Rudra, avoiding him, angry at him?? Why?? And why is she keeping Laila in the house?? Why insist on it against the wishes of all her well wishers?? Is Laila more important than her husband, his wishes, his discomfort?? And she did say it, but her words sound hollow looking at her previous behavior towards Rudra...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: AreYaar



Ermm I don't think eveline's point is being understood here...she isn't questioning Paro's silent treatment of Rudra in so much as she is questioning when exactly did this relationship EVER normalize enough for Paro to DEMAND her rights as a wife? You may have wished for these reactions right after the 8 phere wedding but can we just FORGET entire MONTHS of scenes where Paro was on a divine trip and happy almost INSTANTLY after the 8 phere wedding? Umm not so easily forgotten.

Liking Paro's reactions today doesn't take away from the fact that an INCONSISTENCY very much exists and calling a spade a spade is not a crime like this forum generally likes to paint it.


No- I was not questioning Eve's or your POV. I was just sharing mine...

I agree with you wholeheartedly that paro's reactions after marriage was 😕... But we cannot let that weigh down our enjoyment of all the future episodes, can we??? Its best to just forget and think that she was too innocent or naive to understand the implications...

But when did she demand any wifely right???? she did not even ask him anything, did she? she just refused to play the part of a happy wife today- thats all... her question about their relationship status was in response to his question about her sadness... she said it is not laila that is bothering her but the uncertainty of her role in his life... fair enough??? To me that was more of a statement than a demand...

I am not saying that sharing your viewpoints is a crime... I was just contradicting your (or Eve's) viewpoint with an opposing view...

lets not fight over this, please... That was not my intention... Lets be civil and mature...🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: eveline

Thank you for really understanding my pov here..and for helping me out...rarely has that happened😆!! And yes, I have time and again pointed Paro's character inconsistency, at the cost of being labeled anti Paro. Very few understand that I protest because I love them and hate to see anyone wreaking havoc with them, just to further an illogical saga.


I am sure you don't remember me (since IPK days). I always follow your post, like it, but very rarely respond. today i had a different viewpoint and I shared... thats all...
Edited by surabi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: perry_platypus

Ignoring the logic loopholes, trp compulsions😆

I thought Paro said/asked the right questions today.

To Laila:

I don't need your help. (wrt my marriage)
You are a guest. ( Your stay is temporary).
You try and get well soon (On your own - as you are least of my concern at the moment)

To Rudra

(Ignoring the Gutter convo that happened, the hints which Rudra completely failed to decipher*shakes head*)

Where do I stand in your life?
Does our marriage have any meaning at all?
Have I been fooling myself all this time?

If you could walk away from a woman after 8 years without a closure/proper goodbye, should I believe that you will do the same to me too?

Can I hope that maybe I will possibly have a place in your heart, that you will find it tough to walk away from me?

Am I making a fool of myself here?


Like I said, ignoring the glaring logic-hole, Paro might be thinking if Rudra can be faithful to a woman for 8 years without even loving or caring for her, he can be doubly more so with a woman whom he is in love with?😳







Exactly my thoughts
👏 Must say excellent comment and Q ,s
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37
eveline
some part of your post i agree , some i dont
i agree that shifting laila shouldnt be a issue with paro , more so because laila has over and over not respected rudra and paro's space , ,mythili knocks and rudra's ex just enters , that's weird

i think paro was once normal , actually i liked paro today , for the first time i saw a real girl , who was just jealous and subconsciously angry and demanded for security demanded for answers
rudra did whatever he thought was best , very sincere and honest attempt
paro is not angry with rudra , she is angry or rather hurt that her dream is broken , so she is questioning the base of the relationship
and she is right here , what is the base of their relationship ?????

the question may are asking here is why didnt she question earlier , that i agree, shiv parvati doll i didnt buy any of those your question why is she asking now , i think she is imsecure , her security came from her ultimate faith in divineness of love and rudra being her shiv ji that delusion is broekn
yes she can feel she is with her soulmate , but that is ofcourse short lived cos there is no understanding in this wedding
my bias is cos i didnt like the shiv parvati connection at all, that was too bad a platform to base a relationship on , over that both are complex characters , it has to fall apart

PS this response ignores the promise to leave track , that brought in , none of this makes sense


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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: ttt1

eveline

some part of your post i agree , some i dont
i agree that shifting laila shouldnt be a issue with paro , more so because laila has over and over not respected rudra and paro's space , ,mythili knocks and rudra's ex just enters , that's weird

i think paro was once normal , actually i liked paro today , for the first time i saw a real girl , who was just jealous and subconsciously angry and demanded for security demanded for answers
rudra did whatever he thought was best , very sincere and honest attempt
paro is not angry with rudra , she is angry or rather hurt that her dream is broken , so she is questioning the base of the relationship
and she is right here , what is the base of their relationship ?????

the question may are asking here is why didnt she question earlier , that i agree, shiv parvati doll i didnt buy any of those
yes she can feel she is with her soulmate , but that is ofcourse short lived cos there is no understanding in this wedding
by bias is cos i didnt like the shiv parvati connection at all, that was too bad a platform to base a relationship on , over that both are complex characters , it has to fall apart



This is what I am also trying to say 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: surabi

Eve,

For once I liked the way paro reacted... To me she is not showing any fury... She is just avoiding him... she is not asking him anything at all... she is just keeping a distance... yeah- her face showed hurt when she saw laila with him- traces of jealousy... If she did not show that, I will agree with you that she is a mahan character... that was a humanly reaction..

I do not like the fact that she wants laila to stay there. Keeping that aside, the bigger question here is how laila's presence is going to affect her/their life? her question is correct- laila ke hone ya na hone se kya farq padtha hai?? I think for the first time she came out of her fairyland bubble... Now she realizes (that song and her cries after Rudra explains everything) the situation in its true sense.. That she is married to him but does not know her true meaning or place in his life... she is alluding to the fact that he has not given her any rights as a wife..

BUt here, she has not demanded any explanations or apology from him.. it is him who is going after her...

what do you want her to do- if she is mad at him for his affair, that would be not right since as she herself said "it happened before they even met "

if she act like nothing happened and back to her old self, that would make her character look very weak... that She has no earthly reactions at all.. then she would be like a superficial character...

My personal viewpoint-Under the situations, this was the perfect reaction... She is sad about the fact that there is a third person in their life and that she is not sure about her position in his life... How can she fight laila when she herself does not know what she is to rudra.. Apart from the fact that he shows that cannot stand to see her pain, he has not given any promise to her so far...

What complicates the whole scenario in my opinion is the fact that she is planning to leave him at some point..

For me I would have liked this paro right after their marriage instead of acting all lovey dovey after the eight phera marriage... silent but powerful...


FIrst her worry about Laila's life, who tried to kill her, by itself shows Mahanta. And when she an be protected by others, why in the world insist on her stay...against her husband's wishes?? That itself underlines her martyr image. Here she does not care about hers or hubby's feelings but about Laila's safety, her husband's ex lover and her possible murderer...if that's not self sacrificing devi act what is??
And she is keeping her distance..why?? To punish him?? To keep him on tenterhooks?? To make him run after her...just give me an explanation of her distance from him. She gives her explanation when Rudra forces her, tries to talk to her, to communicate. Logically, her silence means anger, sulkiness, anger, displeasure, or punishment...if not why the silent treatment. Frankly just think, when does a person act like that...
And she is misleading when she says Laila ke hone se koi farq nahin padta. Have you seen her, her face, her reactions...obviously she is extremely affected. Rudra is honest enough to admit that Laila's presene bothers him...and then she goes ahead and asks him why. For exactly the same reasons that she affects you Paro...the difference Rudra admits it, you won't.
And why demand or expect or try to get a clear picture of her rights when she knows how the marriage took place. She already knows Rudra's stand on this forced marriage, on her, on her rights. Now..she is thinking about this?? About her waking up, and getting out of the bubble...I desperately hope so...lt's high time she wakes up and smells the coffee
No, he has not made any promises. But why does that sadden her, why demand an explanation, wifely rights...when she already knows the bitter truth. She did force his hand, and now she is forcing it again...sigh...
Yes, totally illogical to show her losing sight of the fact that she plans to leave him, then why demand a wifely rights or to know her place in his life. The cvs portrayal of Paro leaves me totally furious, they sacrifice her all the time at the altar of story progression.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: surabi


I agree with you wholeheartedly that paro's reactions after marriage was 😕... But we cannot let that weigh down our enjoyment of all the future episodes, can we??? Its best to just forget and think that she was too innocent or naive to understand the implications...

But when did she demand any wifely right???? she did not even ask him anything, did she? she just refused to play the part of a happy wife today- thats all... her question about their relationship status was in response to his question about her sadness... she said it is not laila that is bothering her but the uncertainty of her role in his life... fair enough??? To me that was more of a statement than a demand...

I am not saying that sharing your viewpoints is a crime... I was just contradicting your (or Eve's) viewpoint with an opposing view...

lets not fight over this, please... That was not my intention... Lets be civil and mature...🤗



How is this fighting?😕 I also just stated my viewpoint in response...this is fighting?😆...Well then let me clarify it's not fighting from my side.

@bold: And isn't that a little sudden? For MONTHS we are fed a Paro who has claimed divine rights and never stopped repeating how she has wholly accepted this marriage, she will make it work, BHAGYA is on her side etc. etc...and now suddenly Paro has woken up wanting a CERTAINTY about her role, her HAQ on Rudra?

If Paro is being asked to be given TIME to digest some revelations in this show, don't we as the audience also then need some TIME to digest this turn from Paro in order to take to the future storyline? For me, it was sudden cuz I felt it was inconsistent with her previous character traits in some ways...you are asking me to move on and focus on future epis? Ok then😆...So like Paro, I should also just develop amnesia when it suits me...cool😆

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