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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Hi Diya...words like Jallad and Janawar...do not even begin to capture what I like about this character...They are completely misleading...and indicate...either I have completely misunderstood things or am misunderstood...

Perhaps the tough guy I am looking for never existed...it was all a thin shell...and the real story is a little boy needing a mommy ...in that case...I have picked wrong...because I assumed it to be something engrained...not a shell that too a thin one ...that he can throw off...in a week or two...because he is just so eager...

See ...I don't have a problem with Paro supporting him overcome his emotional issues...Thats great...But he is NOT a little boy...He is a man ...who has evolved the way he has...and him just switching back and forth from this one to that one...without spending time on the conflict or the process of the transition is just too meh...for me...

And now they are labeling ...and I can see junta lining up to the black and white...
Good vs bad
Paro vs Laila
Good guy vs Jallad or Janawar



The subtlety is missing...



the issue is exactly that , the little boy is just an aspect of rudra's character , not him as a whole
he had faced a lot of loneliness and isolation that he made his job his centre of life ... i can completely agree to that , but here what they are doing is making that aspect as the center of his characterization

previously when rudra who was so badly trying to protect his job, he was rude , we justified saying job is the center of his life

what is happening is the characterization is very unidirectional each time and there is no flow , and i am not happy with the execution


what msin said is a very strong situation the man the caught up , that is being handicapped all of a sudden without knowing when he will recover , or wether he will recover at all
but except for a dilsher -prasad scene was that any scene where he is trying to deal with this


lets see
what is the situation
he has just escaped a near death experience (considering his profession i would say not life changing)
his past GF who ones tried killing his wife is back
he was poisoned by his family member
he has been handicapped

but what we get is happily ever after scenes , to be it doesnt add up , for the single simple reason they didnot show how we reached here

they didnot show rudra deal with his demons

fact is justification should come from the execution , that i think is missing , viewers will not understand the shift until they show the transformation clearly
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
Hey Sush... Pehle toh main ye bataa doon ke mujhe tumhaare posts humeshaa acchhe lagte hai... 😳 Aur uss se bhi zyaadaa tumhaare mom kaa review!!! 😳 😃 👍🏼
Maine aaj tak kabhi comment nahi kiyaa, pataa nahi kyu?! 🤔 Par aaj mujhe karne kaa mann kiyaa! 😊

Mujhe bataao... Insaan kaisaa hai, yeh hum kaise bataa sakte hai? Jab bacchaa paidaa hotaa hai, tab kyaa hume pataa hotaa hai ke wo aagey jaake "mala kaa pyaaraa bacchaa", "Laila kaa jaanwar", "Paro kaa Jallaad", yaa "Paro kaa pati" banane waalaa hai? Kyaa tum waisi hi ho, jaise pehle thi?
Nahi naa...?!? Main toh nahi hu! Waqt, insaan aur haalaat insaan ko badaltaa hai! Phir chaahe wo jaanwar ho yaa shaadi-shudaa maamuli pati!
Tumhe ek interesting baat bataau... Mala ne Rudra ko ek bacche ke roop me dekhaa hai... Agar wo baad me aati aur Rudra kaa Jallaad roop dekhti toh wo kehti ke "yeh mhaaraa Rudra naa hai... Mhaaraa Rudra ek pyaaraa saa bacchaa thaa... Jo hastaa thaa, rotaa thaa... Mhaare pichhe-pichhe daudtaa thaa..."
Par wo badlaa... Kyon? Waqt (15 saal), insaan (Dilsher, Laila) aur haalaat (akelaapan->majboori->intezaar->nafrat!) ne usse badlaa... Kyaa wo khud badlaa? Nahi... Ye badlaav uss par thopaa gayaa!
Phir usske zindagi me Paro aayi... Aur wo phir badlaa...
Abhi Laila ne Rudra ko jaanwar ke roop me dekhaa hai... Toh ussne kyaa kahaa? "Yeh mhaaraa Rudra naa hai... Mhaaraa Rudra sher thaa... Maamuli, shaadi-shudaa, baandhaa huaa insaan naa thaa!"
Par wo badlaa... Kyon? Waqt (Paro kaa saath), insaan (Paro, Aman, Dilsher, Geetanjali, SW...) aur haalaat (Paro kaa beshumaar pyaar) ne usse badlaa...
Kyaa wo khud badlaa? Nahi... Ye badlaav usske haath pe pyaar se sopaa gayaa!

Abhi dekho... Mala aur Laila ne Rudra ke sirf ek hi roop dekhe hai... Mala ne bacche kaa aur Laila ne jaanwar kaa...
Par Paro ek aisi ladki hai jisne uss bus me rote bacche ko bhi dekhaa hai aur ek vidhwaa aurat se zabardasti se shaadi karne waale Jallaad ko bhi dekhaa hai...
Aur uss din... Pataa hai woh Paro ke saamne kyon royaa? Kyonki usse pataa chalaa ke Paro samazti hai, jaanti hai ke Rudra ko bhi ronaa aa saktaa hai... Rudra ko agar taqleef hoti hai, toh wo bhi rotaa hai... Ghutataa hai... Tadaptaa hai...
Usse pataa hai ke wo BSD HQ me royaa, toh subah Paro ke god me soyaa uthaa thaa... Usse pataa hai ke Paro apnaa haath Rudra ko kass ke pakadne ko degi, phir chaahe usse chont bhi lag jaaye...
Aur phir wo khul gayaa... Aur tab se Paro usskaa sabkuchh ho gayi... Wo jataayegaa nahi, usse shaayad samaz bhi nahi aayegaa, par ho gayi sabkuchh!!! ❤️

Abhi 15 saal jis insaan ne khud ke kaam khud hi kiye hai... Aur uss insaan ko ek aise naye insaan kaa saath mil jaataa hai, jo usse apple khilvaataa hai, Prasad khilvaataa hai, doodh pilaane ki koshish kartaa hai, button sitaa hai, usske kapde laake detaa hai, medicines khilvaataa hai, usske job ke liye kuchh bhi kar saktaa hai, duniyaa kaa sabse khoobsurat insaan dikh saktaa hai, kiss karne ki koshish kar saktaa hai, usske godi me usse pakad kar zidd kar saktaa hai, usskaa haath pakad kar so saktaa hai, nafrat kaa jawaab sirf pyaar pyaar pyaar se hi de saktaa hai... Aur sabse badi baat... Wo inn sabko enjoy kar saktaa hai...
Toh wo insaan... Apne saare kaam dheere-dheere karke uss insaan ke paas sop detaa hai... Example? "Main kapde kahaa badlu?" 😃
Kyaa Rudra wo thehraav deserve nahi kartaa? Kyaa Paro ye haqq deserve nahi karti?
Aur baai-saa, abhi toh shuruvaat hui hai... Kise pataa kuchh dino baad ye Rudra harr chhoti cheezon ke liye "Paro... Paro..." kartaa rahegaa...
Rudra ek aisaa insaan hai jo apne rang badaltaa rehtaa hai... Aaj aisaa, toh kal waisaa... Isiliye hum zaraa bhi nahi keh sakte ke Rudra kaisaa hai... Log usse udaate hai, aur wo udd jaataa hai... Aur inn logo me Paro jo uss me thehraav laa rahi hai, wo mere hisaab se sabse khoobsurat hai... Rudra ko asli khushi denaa waalaa hai... Aur isiliye mujhe koi problem nahi! 😃

Jab Paro usse chhod kar chali jaayegi, tab hum nahi jaante ke ussme phir kaunsaa badlaav aayegaa... Toh baai-saa, Rudra kaa ye roop bhi dekh lo aur jee lo usse! Kyaa pataa... Kal phir aisaa Rudra mile yaa naa mile! 😉

Pataa nahi meri post me logic hai yaa nahi... Par mujhe yahi lagtaa hai!!!
Apne mom kaa review zaroor denaa!!! 🤗


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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Hi Indra...I think you are right...I wish they had kept this part a little more enjoyable for me too...but then again...I am in the minority here...so perhaps the sweet romance will work for most of the audience and serve its intended purpose...

I think it is TRP driven...


I agree it's TRP driven and aren't most things?? Don't get me started about what a dumb way it is to determine the fate of shows. . .

I actually agree with your post; this weeks episodes didn't do much for me. Some parts were funny; when Laila burned Mohini but overall they were meh. I thought about why I didn't enjoy the shows and it's because Rudra wasn't being his usual self.

What really surprised me was by the end of this week I wanted to smack Paro. She's getting on my nerves and you know I love her character and what she represents but I think they are going a tiny bit overboard. She's not a reincarnation of Mother Theresa - and if she' supposed to be can they please tell us and I'll stop watching because seriously??? I'll stop my rant there.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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@rahul

Apka post kafi logical hai , kafi koobsorat bi hai😊

Agree with most of it , except , is level ka dependence jiske bare me aap baat kar rahe hain , usme wakt lagta hain ,like children are dependent on moms for small things don't question ,that dependence is a very subconscious that develops only with time because of blind trust


, the scenes are beautiful no doubt , just too quick

rudra jo kar kaam apne aap karna chahata tha , abi ekdum se kar chhez me opinion pooch raha hain , that change took two days

i think what they wanted to show is a man jo badalna chahata hain , apna ateet peche chodna chahata hain (his reaction on seeing laila , his question did she tell you everything , he doesn't want to disappoint paro )

what they ended up showing is a man who is married for years and trusts his wife blindly

building trust building phase was largely missing that is why this confusion i guess

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: malkasub

Sush, I so get what youre trying to say, but the point to be noted here is that SO DID LAILA! She wanted the 'janvar' Rudra back. Which means we are meant to see him totally out of character... and I'm assuming they are preparing him or us for something. BUT the most stupidest thing I saw was the 'where do I change' bit. Come on Boss, this is the limit. But he did look damn good while changing. 'Where do I change'????? the same guy who has slept with Laila for 8 years. What do they take us for...idiots?

So agreed, idiots we are, but still we love our Paro and Rudra...nothing else to say. Take us on any ride you please, but just stay a bit logical. With the low TRP, you ought to know who watches your show the most!


Yup...I noticed that! Anyone asking this kind of question must be a person who thinks like Laila...

GOSH...I have never been SO ANNOYED with the makers!!😡 It is like I am watching a different show...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post ... I guess Rudra himself doesn't know that he is changing... He has already fallen in love with Paro long back and its just his mind not accepting it but his heart knows that he loves her and it reacts accordingly the moment it feels Paro ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pinot

Agree, was very out of character!
But I think the CVs forgot they have an on-suite bathroom in the bedroom! 😆
You know the one where they were throwing up in, on their wedding night!
Banna could have changed right in there!


Glad he is not asking...if he has permission to go to work...and what vegetables he should buy on the way back...😔


This is RIDICULOUS ...did they change the writer or the director?



Edited by -Sush- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1

@rahul


Apka post kafi logical hai , kafi koobsorat bi hai😊


Agree with most of it , except , is level ka dependence jiske
bare me aap baat kar rahe hain , usme wakt lagta hain ,like children are
dependent on moms for small things don't question ,that dependence is a very subconscious
that develops only with time because of
blind trust


, the scenes are beautiful
no doubt , just too quick


rudra jo kar kaam apne aap karna chahata tha , abi ekdum se
kar chhez me opinion pooch raha hain ,no issues there except that change took two days



i think what they wanted to show is a man jo badalna chahata hain , apna ateet peche chodna chahata hain (his reaction on seeing laila , his
question did she tell you everything ,
he doesn't want to disappoint paro )

what they ended up showing is a man who is married for years and trusts his wife blindly


building trust building phase was largely missing that is why this confusion
i guess




hey ttt1, ThanQ! 😊
Yes! Agree kartaa hu... CVs thodaa fast jaa rahe hai... Aur wo characters ke inner thoughts properly nahi dikhaa rahe hai... Sabkuchh hume assume karnaa padtaa hai... Jaise kyaa ussne sochaa ke wo Paro ke saamne kyu royaa? Jab Paro usskaa haath pakad kar soti hai tab wo mann me kyaa sochtaa hai? Jaipur me jo huaa, usske baare me ussne khud se baat ki? Jab dance ke dohraan Rudra Paro ko kiss karne waalaa thaa, usske baare me Paro kyaa sochti hai? Kyaa Paro ne sochaa ke Rudra ne Paro ke saath mazaak kiyaa... Kyu kiyaa??? Jab Rudra ne bolaa k "tu chali jaaye, ye bhagwaan se maangaa hai", uss waqt Paro k mann me kyaa chal rahaa thaa? ...
Aur bhi bohot saare scenes hai... Ye chhoti-chhoti mann ki baatein characters se connect hone me help karti hai... Jo RR me bohot kam hai...
Gautam hegde ke do shows (ipk, SC) maine dekhe hai... Aur ussme wo mere hisaab se perfect thaa... Pataa nahi RR ke saath kahaa gadbad ho rahi hai... Kuchh missing toh definitely hai!

Dekhte hai... Jab Paro Rudra ko chhod kar jaayegi, tab story interesting hogi!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sush u know how much I love my angry rudra like u! I don't want him to change, but after getting napmonsters insight on rudra I realised the place he is at now is wer he should be. He has always had dis pull, attraction, care towards paro and it is getting stronger, but he will not admit it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -R-R-R-



hey ttt1, ThanQ! 😊
Yes! Agree kartaa hu... CVs thodaa fast jaa rahe hai... Aur wo characters ke inner thoughts properly nahi dikhaa rahe hai... Sabkuchh hume assume karnaa padtaa hai... Jaise kyaa ussne sochaa ke wo Paro ke saamne kyu royaa? Jab Paro usskaa haath pakad kar soti hai tab wo mann me kyaa sochtaa hai? Jaipur me jo huaa, usske baare me ussne khud se baat ki? Jab dance ke dohraan Rudra Paro ko kiss karne waalaa thaa, usske baare me Paro kyaa sochti hai? Kyaa Paro ne sochaa ke Rudra ne Paro ke saath mazaak kiyaa... Kyu kiyaa??? Jab Rudra ne bolaa k "tu chali jaaye, ye bhagwaan se maangaa hai", uss waqt Paro k mann me kyaa chal rahaa thaa? ...
Aur bhi bohot saare scenes hai... Ye chhoti-chhoti mann ki baatein characters se connect hone me help karti hai... Jo RR me bohot kam hai...
Gautam hegde ke do shows (ipk, SC) maine dekhe hai... Aur ussme wo mere hisaab se perfect thaa... Pataa nahi RR ke saath kahaa gadbad ho rahi hai... Kuchh missing toh definitely hai!

Dekhte hai... Jab Paro Rudra ko chhod kar jaayegi, tab story interesting hogi!


Could be the director...This week was quite bleh...except Monday...

Edited by -Sush- - 11 years ago

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