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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Sush,

Interesting post ... food for thought.
My POV ... which might be as unpopular as yours, esp to the Rudra as Jallad lovers 😛 ... I never really saw Rudra as being all that stone hearted and fierce as he was made out to be. Because from the beginning, even when he was at his jallad best ... or worst ... he was shown to be an emotional sort of fellow. The first breakdown when the mother of his dead soldier cursed him, came withing the first couple of weeks of the show, if I remember right. And the repeated breakdowns have only cemented that view for me ... now whether that was the intention of the makers, or a mistake in their writing, I don't know. But he came across from the beginning as a weak man who is struggling with his demons, and has grown that very thin shell over himself to cloak the lost child inside him. That shell is very thin ... and it cracks repeatedly ... every time there is a stress factor, he breaks ... be it the loss of his men, his job, his father ... he breaks down or gets drunk. NOT the signs of a strong or independent man. I also felt that despite his rough exterior, he was pretty much a gentleman, as far as women were concerned ... except with Laila, of course.

Also, even at his very worst, Paro could see through the shell to the man within ... there was this connection with her from the start. The first time he told her about his mother (after the mehndi), she put her finger on his pulse ... he's a lost child, still living in hope that his mom will come back. And somewhere inside, that lost child still wonders whether his mother left because of him ... that even his own mother could not love him.

So when Paro mothers him, showers her love on him, despite everything he does to push her away, he laps it up thirstily ... as a sign that he is not unloveable after all. And Paro's love is what will actually give him strength ... he was not strong earlier.

One thing I liked about the previous serial from this PH is that they maintained the hero's roughness with the rest of the world, and showed his soft side only to his wife. That is what I want here too ... and I think (I might be wrong) I can see that happening. Rudra's brain has already returned with the beginning of his acceptance of Paro ... he is displaying more intelligence than he ever did earlier, as his ever present anger abates. Being angry all the time is not a sign of strength ... we have already accepted that Paro, with her calmness is a far stronger person ... if Rudra, with Paro by his side, can figure out Laila's true intentions (should be easy, the way she's behaving), AND also that she is hand in glove with Mohini, that is a bigger sign of his strength and independence than just showing that roughness and anger all the time.




I agree with diya. Sush..the major was never an emotionally strong person to begin with..right from te start they have shown him breaking down time and again..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: asmi279

@diya: mera bhi same to same...excellent post baisa :D


yeah diya, liked your POV👏 and yeah, me too want him to be the rough and tough with all except Paro 😛

And my dear Sush, please we'll miss your Sushpectives very much, so please dont think of moving away from this show😭 our Rudra will be back as before...lets just give the creatives some time 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
hey sush, i get your point...you know, i personally love that rudra too and the raw passion that oozed out of him...i long to get a glimpse of him and something tell me that we might soon, after paro leaves him and he gets back to being the old rudra that he was...i guess the CVs are trying to portray what a positive influence paro's presence in his life has had on him..the jallad is finally transforming into a human owing to the presence of a certain someone in his life...at least when it comes to paro, one can't deny that he has a come a long way from what he used to be..but like i've mentioned i would love to have a glimpse of his previous self..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Hi Vidya...I don't want him to be aggressive with her...but it can't be this easy...and he can't be this compliant...

I think they are rushing to make him someone he is not...so that they can dish out ROMANCE NOW in the hopes of generating TRPs...I would rather see an honest characterization...

hey sush
i hear you😃
again rushed through the romantic track
falling in love is something they should have given more attention to
this one is too quick
they want to get the angry major when paro leaves him, so they want this major to majorly fall in love😆😆
that is all fine , but in 1 day ...really
i liked the scene where he is scared laila must have spoken about his past to paro , that was an honest scene
he didnt want to disappoint paro
he wants to leave his past behind , that is fine , but falling in love should be better sketched
rest , please slow down cvs
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm glad you pointed out Rudra asking Paro where to change...that stuck out to me too, but I brushed it under the carpet...it really doesn't make sense how he asked her where to change. Is he a 5 year old boy? Figure out where to change yourself Rudy boy, why are you becoming so dependent on Paro for such small things? Give me a break. Him asking Paro this was really out of character imo. What would have been in character would have been him telling Paro to turn around because he's going to go behind the pillar and change...that way Paro could have still asked her question while he changed...and the scene would have still flowed well...if you get what I'm trying to say...

I think the CVs are not concentrating enough on Parud's love story. They are way too focused on external conflicts rather than internal conflicts...Rudra's internal conflicts especially. I would much rather see scenes of Rudra struggling with himself and his growing feelings for Paro than scenes of Laila plotting to separate Parud. Mohini, and now Laila, have way too much screen space. I am watching RR solely for Parud, not for Mohini and Laila and their stupid rants and plans.

On that note, the Laila track feels really contrived to me. And because Ankita is struggling in Laila's character, the track itself is not even half convincing. I have to force myself to NOT FF all Laila and Laila-Mohini scenes. Really disappointing. Hope the CVs wrap this track up quickly.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I'm glad you pointed out Rudra asking Paro where to change...that stuck out to me too, but I brushed it under the carpet...it really doesn't make sense how he asked her where to change. Is he a 5 year old boy? Figure out where to change yourself Rudy boy, why are you becoming so dependent on Paro for such small things? Give me a break. Him asking Paro this was really out of character imo. What would have been in character would have been him telling Paro to turn around because he's going to go behind the pillar and change...that way Paro could have still asked her question while he changed...and the scene would have still flowed well...if you get what I'm trying to say...

I think CVs are not concentrating enough on Parud's love story. They are way too focused on external conflicts rather than internal conflicts...Rudra's internal conflicts especially. I would much rather see scenes of Rudra struggling with himself and his growing feelings for Paro than scenes of Laila plotting to separate Parud. Mohini, and now Laila, have way too much screen space. I am watching RR solely for Parud, not for Mohini and Laila and their stupid rants and plans.

On that note, the Laila track feels really contrived to me. And because Ankita is struggling in Laila's character, the track itself is not even half convincing. I have to force myself to NOT FF all Laila and Laila-Mohini scenes. Really disappointing. Hope the CVs wrap this track up quickly.

Honey, i dont even force myself... I forward away! 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Sush and asmi, i agree with both of you.

Yes Sush, i hated Lailas poisonous barbs. That he belonged to no one, and he was an animal, and that was her superhero, and now he was normal. My disagreement is both philosophical and situational.

Firstly, I believe that no man is an island, and Rudra is certainly not one, not by a long shot. Secondly, paro has most defintely seen the jaanvar side of him. He killed scores of people in front of her, and He made her husbands brains come out the backside of his head. Does anyone remember her screaming in that desert? Of how he came close and pointed the gun at her, his fingers scrabbling at the trigger?And Paro is not a mamuli si ladki either, not by a long shot. Even Lailas Jaanvar, who I am sure has seen a lot has often wondered at the mitti she is made of! So Laila may think some rough games in bed are enjoyable 🤢 And this is why she wants the jaanvar, and also she has played that hooker psycho analysis game with him too, no doubt picking up information when he was wasted, a not infrequent occurrence. But she is way off. Hooking up with a raw 20 year old army recruit and teaching him crib games for eight years is not necessarily understanding him. Its controlling, and granted fir that you do need some insight into how he works, but that is not the transcending realization of his self that comes from true love!

So this is where I agree with Asmi. That the journey is long for Rudra and Paro. Not in terms of time perhaps, but in terms of life changing events! They have both been dragged out of their orbits, and gravity is playing its mind games on them! Sometimes, like Danveer said, all it takes is a second of realisation. That aha moment. Paro is removed enough from this world to recognise it and believe it the minute it hit her. Thats because she had nowhere to go, nothing to look forward to... She had already given up her life to Bholenaath! And so she was ready to see the signs! But Rudra is strong. He is fearless, he is raw and very hot! These things made it difficult for him to do the same in response to his pull to her. But in his somewhat weakened physical state, his emotions and the understanding of them are heightened, and he acknowledges how much his world was turned upside down when she cane into his life... She has turned him by the shoulders to look full in the face into his past, and that has brought back memories and feelings of when he was younger, helpless, sensitive... Like a peeled onion! And this time he is not resentful, but helpless as he realises she has git him by his ... Heart! Yes, heart, people!

So domestication is not necessarily a bad thing... After all its just an excuse for getting up close personal, hot and bothered! Or would you rather see Laila getting all revved up sliding over him as she sewed on the button? I would take Paro any day! And he has let her in under his skin long ago.

I love your viewpoint. and I agree that Rudra has been confronted with a completely pure and unselfish woman who knows and has seen him in his most rough manner and she still loves him unconditionally! This has made him let her get under his skin as you put it so well.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Honey, i dont even force myself... I forward away! 🤣


Yeah it seems everyone does these days haha 🤣 I definitely think I should start too 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
Sush
I totally agree with your post!
From the beginning I hoped that it wouldn't come to a point where rudra would lose that intense edge and become an ordinary person who can be arm twisted into doing what Paro wants every time
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Allowing laila to stay based on paros emotional blackmail was a big no no... What did paros nature have to do with that? That was a decision he was better equipped to make and as it turned out what he thought about laila was correct!

Paro is being sweet and becoming friends with laila and major is unable to do anything but show angry faces once in a while! I don't believe that accepting his love means letting paro dictate every aspect of his life... I certainly hope paro accepts she was wrong when the laila truth comes out!
Yesterday I liked the scene where rudra asked paro how it mattered that he was angry when she was doing what he didn't like anyway!

As far as making rudra accept his love it was good that everyone was on paros side and pointed out how good she was... But that happening on a regular basis would severely take away ffrom his characterization... none questioned how laila could stay there even.. When it was clear from rudras tone that he wasn't happy... Come to think of it mohini banked on paros this very insistence to make sure laila got in!

Too much change too quickly and the attitude is gone... Rudra was not all bad... I agree that him asking paro everything is kind of totally weird... They can show him in love without making him a puppet in her hands!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sush, I so get what youre trying to say, but the point to be noted here is that SO DID LAILA! She wanted the 'janvar' Rudra back. Which means we are meant to see him totally out of character... and I'm assuming they are preparing him or us for something. BUT the most stupidest thing I saw was the 'where do I change' bit. Come on Boss, this is the limit. But he did look damn good while changing. 'Where do I change'????? the same guy who has slept with Laila for 8 years. What do they take us for...idiots?

So agreed, idiots we are, but still we love our Paro and Rudra...nothing else to say. Take us on any ride you please, but just stay a bit logical. With the low TRP, you ought to know who watches your show the most!

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