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Sultan_Of_Swing

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Posted: 11 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: Exprimere
Sorry to butt in- I can't help but wonder how many members are admitting to have experienced domestic violence and other kind of abuse. That you all are talking about it is commendable.

Another reason why this post is worth appreciation.

Are you sure? Because this thread is apparently filled with psuedo feminist posts.

What a fine way to pay tributes and reach out to women who have experienced abuse or know close friends who have gone through the same.

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blue.kindle

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Posted: 11 years ago

#82

I think he was very clever. He intimidated her without actually resorting to any physical abuse. It is a kind of mind game. How much do you let the other person affect you? Physically Paro refused to cower in front of Rudra but she lost the mind game. She let him affect her too much as became apparent from her drastic step.

It also raises questions about us, the audience who savors the schadenfreude of another woman's humiliation.

Are we so insulated that our first reaction is thinking the whole episode of Rudra rubbing henna on Paro's hands cute. ?

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73877

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Posted: 11 years ago

#83

i sometimes wonder whether fans and a average tv viewer sees the same episodes of RR?

Because i would have really appreciated if paro;s acting really had such deep emotions as found on posts here which are otherwise non-existent.

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incandescent

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Posted: 11 years ago

#84

Thank you for making this post and great discussion going on here. To reach the extent of hurting oneself really shows her state of hopelessness. It was her silent protest.

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Sultan_Of_Swing

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Posted: 11 years ago

#85

Napster when i started following this show, I had decided never to get too involved with the characters or their suffering. So I have been making many inane posts so far about consumashun seriously avoiding any serious discussions. And for some reason it worked as the writers haven't given enough focus to Paro's pain or anguish so far. yesterday they did it after a long time and when I saw your post I got carried away. Only to be brought back to earth today after reading the kind of posts I have read.

SJ is right, its better to live in a vacuum where Indian TV shows and internet forums are concerned.

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lsage

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Posted: 11 years ago

#86

Napster! Love you post!

To me, there is no romance in these scenes, but there is a lot of anguish and chemistry. That part I am enjoying as the characters unfold themselves.

The episode showed the determination of both the leads. Rudra being suggestive with the enemy that has brought such dishonor to his team and Paro going to extreme lengths to win against a man that killed her husband. If we look from their perspective, it is torture to both of them. One might be more physical and the other may be emotionally.

The scene did not make me uncomfortable because there is no sexual interest on Rudra's side. He has been portrayed from day 1 as a guy that believes that the end justifies the means. Good or bad, that is what he is. He is desperate now and is going after things that he knows she holds precious. We know she is innocent, he doesn't. What made me uncomfortable was the hand burning. No matter what the situation, a self inflicted injury to fight against anything is hard for me to understand.

I love the characters and story in that way. Strong dark characters. One driven by patriotism and One driven by righteousness. 2 noble souls at the end of the day.

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Exprimere

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Posted: 11 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti

Are you sure? Because this thread is apparently filled with psuedo feminist posts.

What a fine way to pay tributes and reach out to women who have experienced abuse or know close friends who have gone through the same.

"Pseudo feminists". I wish people would not throw the word around without a basic google search of "feminism". Wikipedia will also do. By the way, I don't like my men chocolaty. Just respectful towards me, is all I expect from them.

I honestly believe talking about any kind of abuse is quite difficult. At least I find it hard to discuss it. And if this thread allows the space to talk, however little the mention may be, it's quite a positive thing.

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CheshireBilli

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Posted: 11 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: tiniaa
How can you forget that Rudra took a slap for her. He didn't have to do it but he did & that speaks volumes . Regarding mehndi episode, he was provoked & Rudra isn't a man to just take it lying down ( this is the beauty of his character ) . No one is talking about how ,when he realised that running water is hurting her , he put his hand under the water before letting it flow on her hands & applying mehndi does have a cooling affect so in a way,he was taking care of her burns but pseudo feminists wouldn't understand it. Maybe they will like it more if Rudra is all choclatey choclatey & docile who will be at Paro's beck & call always.

So the fact that Rudra took one slap for Paro makes up for what is otherwise distinctly abusive behaviour? I sincerely pray that you apply this philosophy only to soap operas and not to the real world.

You're entitled to hold your opinion of course, but for many of us Rudra's obsession with one-upping Paro, no matter what, is not 'manly', it is rather distasteful.

And as for taking care of Paro's burns, need I remind you that they wouldn't have existed in the first place if he hadn't backed her so far into a corner? If he was genuinely that concerned about her hurt, he could have let Maithili take her away and tend to her hands. Instead, he chose to very publicly invade her personal space and negate the desperate stand she had tried to make. And all to prove his point.

Of course this is all fictional. And that's why I watch this, and laugh about it. I couldn't possibly have stomached this if it had been real. But that doesn't make Rudra's character or his actions exempt from criticism.

If you choose to label that criticism 'pseudo-feminist', again, that's your call. You and I have obviously studied very different versions of Feminism.

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milinda.shreyz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: napstermonster

Totally!!

PrettyPri and Shreya (and others)---

The issue is being looked at fro different perspectives, as any issue that cuts so close to the bone among thinking women should be. I am glad you guys are arguing your take on it so thoughtfully and with such good points--none of the "he is hawt! Lolz! He touchiya her handiya! Hai mein maarjawaa! Rudra can do no wrong" crap among the ladies here!

Thanks for writing your posts--I hope you understand my dissent is just my viewpoint, and anything but personal!

Napstermonster

Hello Napster !

Yes, u have said it perfectly. itz all about from which perspective u are approaching. if u identify yourself completely with paro's plight , than yes all these make sense, If you see from Rudra's point of view then u will find that what ever he is doing to paro, although cruel and degenerative even to him,is his desperate attempts to save his reputation which holds supreme importance to him.

and if you see it from a pure third person point of view without attaching yourself personally to any of the two characters,and knowing the actual scenario much more these two,you will feel the heat of the war these two were waging against each other and feel pity for the situation that drives them to utmost desperation on the verge of destroying oneself physically and psychologically.

And napster, itz only my opinion about yesterday's episode...i admire you too much to quarrel upon a fictional drama sequence.I hope you understand too, itz just different perspective, and ofcourse nothing personal.

take care,

Cheers !

Shreya

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Sunara

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Posted: 11 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: Semanti

So the fact that Rudra took one slap for Paro makes up for what is otherwise distinctly abusive behaviour? I sincerely pray that you apply this philosophy only to soap operas and not to the real world.

You're entitled to hold your opinion of course, but for many of us Rudra's obsession with one-upping Paro, no matter what, is not 'manly', it is rather distasteful.
And as for taking care of Paro's burns, need I remind you that they wouldn't have existed in the first place if he hadn't backed her so far into a corner? If he was genuinely that concerned about her hurt, he could have let Maithili take her away and tend to her hands. Instead, he chose to very publicly invade her personal space and negate the desperate stand she had tried to make. And all to prove his point.

Of course this is all fictional. And that's why I watch this, and laugh about it. I couldn't possibly have stomached this if it had been real. But that doesn't make Rudra's character or his actions exempt from criticism.
If you choose to label that criticism 'pseudo-feminist', again, that's your call. You and I have obviously studied very different versions of Feminism.

i was just about to type when i saw ur response.. specially the red line!! i don't need to add anything else!