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Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

Sun hun you echoed my thoughts I posted this elsewhere it is tiring and a question of overkill I am just waiting for Laila to brood over his past along with that watchman and stray dog at the school
Seriously am so tired of his boohoo crying Creatives its called overdone
And that is why I don't like ST shows I know the damage he is capable of He reduced his FL in MB1 to a prop Imagine having a serial named after you and have the plots and tracks revolve around the ML
I like soaps with 2 LEADS I have a healthy life that does not need me to vicariously live through an alpha male
I do understand your sentiments Another time another place I would have waged wars over the characters but now have the wisdom to know its just characters and fictional at that and my life has more pressing issues

Originally posted by: Oyster

And here comes Sunara with another thoughtful post :)

I am completely against this trend of Mama's boy turning bitter for the rest of his life over one isolated childhood tragedy. That's so unreal, period. Children who survive ruthless wars where they lose everyone and everything manage to engineer a positive outlook towards life once they are brought into a nurturing environment. There have been numerous such cases in the real world. So yeah I have to abandon logic to be able to relate to something so unreal which I can't.

And you also rightly pointed out that the girl's real, current grief is overlooked in order to foreground the guy's one ancient grief. We obviously see that in Paro and Rudra's case too. I completely agree that the current circumstances of Paro are far more tragic than Rudra's. But the creatives are not portraying this...

Having said that, I must acknowledge that I understand Rudra not being able to overcome his childhood tragedy and the reason is that he was never in a nurturing environment. That's why it has been emphasized multiple times that Rudra's sole purpose in life is maintaining the honor of his uniform. I mean imagine living a life so meaningless where your career is all that you have. So to me Rudra has a psychological problem. He's not a normal human and hence it makes sense to see him clinging onto his past as if he is still in that time period.

Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

Still he can't over-come his past . He cried today because that song brought back his memories with his mom.He love is mom so much . He still can't accept the fact is mom left him. So I find Rudra breaking down and crying apt for the situation. .That scene made me emotional.

Men also cry and I am one among those men who cry.

I also want CV's to equally focus in showing Paro's emotional trauma and show her pain also.

Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

Still he can't over-come his past . He cried today because that song brought back his memories with his mom.He love is mom so much . He still can't accept the fact is mom left him. So I find Rudra breaking down and crying apt for the situation. .That scene made me emotional.

Men also cry and I am one among those men who cry.

I also want CV's to equally focus in showing Paro's emotional trauma and show her pain also.

Originally posted by: Oyster

And here comes Sunara with another thoughtful post :)

I am completely against this trend of Mama's boy turning bitter for the rest of his life over one isolated childhood tragedy. That's so unreal, period. Children who survive ruthless wars where they lose everyone and everything manage to engineer a positive outlook towards life once they are brought into a nurturing environment. There have been numerous such cases in the real world. So yeah I have to abandon logic to be able to relate to something so unreal which I can't.

And you also rightly pointed out that the girl's real, current grief is overlooked in order to foreground the guy's one ancient grief. We obviously see that in Paro and Rudra's case too. I completely agree that the current circumstances of Paro are far more tragic than Rudra's. But the creatives are not portraying this...

Having said that, I must acknowledge that I understand Rudra not being able to overcome his childhood tragedy and the reason is that he was never in a nurturing environment. That's why it has been emphasized multiple times that Rudra's sole purpose in life is maintaining the honor of his uniform. I mean imagine living a life so meaningless where your career is all that you have. So to me Rudra has a psychological problem. He's not a normal human and hence it makes sense to see him clinging onto his past as if he is still in that time period.

Originally posted by: tattle-tale

I don't think it's a question of dehumanizing Rudra, MKM.

Nor do I think the TM is debating his suffering-- she is commenting on his inability to deal with his pain and thereby how his actions are coloured by his past.

That seems like a perfectly legitimate thing to be talking about.

I am probably terribly insensitive, but I find myself tiring of this effort to wrench sympathy by giving the male leads a traumatic past, and milking it for time immemorial. Without going into the rights and wrongs of it, it is lazy story-telling.

I like the occasional hints they drop where Rudra is aware of how damaged he is. Those moments are rare and genuine. And it speaks of a more complex characterization process.

I am not going to compare Rudra and Paro-- they are two very different characters. But I do feel it is a valid point to consider when some viewers not only stop empathizing with the characters, but also start getting annoyed with their actions.

Are we slowing down too much? Are we being repetitive? Is the direction poor? Could the acting improve? I am certainly forced to consider these possibilities.

Originally posted by: showviewer

Sunara, you made some valid points. Though I have no issue with Rudra getting emotional about his dead soldiers and lost mother, after all these events shaped his personality and psyche, and they have a fab actor to pull it off, but it is becoming an overkill and lopsided.

Today, for example, they should have focused a little more Paro's emotions, given her some flashbacks, after all this whole facade and captivity is not any easier for Paro too. Her scene was cut too quickly and focus shifted to Rudra. Sanaya too is fabulous in emotional scenes and can connect beautifully with her audience. Like you rightly pointed out when Paro is alone will she not think of her past, shattered dreams and overcome by emotions, creatives should focus on that too, otherwise the story becomes lopsided. It's not a question one or the other but about two hurting souls.

Hope some people from the creative team or PH read the feedback and correct it soon.

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

there is nothing wrong with his crying but I did read comments about how she should have been more careful considering his mommy issues and not made remarks of jallad when he stepped over her bangles Huh she just told him I sing this to bring peace in my soul and a reminder of another time she was grieving over her widowhood but oh no that does not count when he said never ever sing it for it means something bad she should just roll over and play dead and accept oh gosh he has mommy issues and my life currently has no value but is ok he is hot ergo worthy of angst