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Originally posted by: Nidhz1

well, all versions of Ramayan are unique in their own way and are according to the social norms prevalent in the era 'twas written but Valmiki Ramayan is an authentic source so it holds an edge over the others also one must not forget that since Lord Vishnu incarnated in the form of a human; the human emotions are also to be considered thats what Valmiki has shown, where as Tulsidas has shown him more God-like with godly feeling throughout.

i agree with u every ramayana is special and we r no one to question

Originally posted by: legallyblonde21

hmmm..just a question do forgive my ignorance BUT isnt it true that Tulsi Das has shown Ramji as the ideal man because he was suppossd to be so--Lord Vishnu wanted to show how the perfect man should be and thus Ramji was like that--yes i know he was suppossed to kill ravaan as well but he was also suppossed to leave behind an ideal...
If Uttar Ramayan is made; it will be based on valmiki ramayan but the fact that Lord Ram is an incarnation of Sri Hari himself cannot be ignored in the story...

and yes Ramji knew he had done wrong which is why he repented the decision and slept on grass below where Sitaji was to sleep; but as a righteous king he sent her away; it is also said that Sitaji heard through her spies that all this was being said in the city and she also heard about Sri Ram's dilemma and thus wanted to make it easier for him...
It is said that this was done so that such a mistake would not be made...
I just request that Tulsi Das ramayan not be discredited
also--there is a verse in ramayan itself that says Hari anant; Hari katha anantaa; Kaha hii Sunahii bahuu bidhii sabh santaa..

hmmm i agree with u both valmiki and tulsi ramayana is secial.all the version of ramayana has there own importance

Why is the Prithviraj Chauhan serial being counted as part of the 'mythology & fantasy' genre? 😕 It is a historical/period drama, that's all (despite the way the Sagars have stretched and convoluted the story beyond recognition). There's no fantasy or mythology involved there. 😊

Also, the Zee TV show Ravan is not only using the Valmiki Ramayan as the source. They are taking elements from many different versions of the epic. For instance, right now they are showing an adaptation of the story of Ahiravan and Mahiravan which is not in the Valmiki text at all. It can be found in other versions (including folktales) though (mostly South Indian if I remember correctly). Earlier they used Jain versions too. In fact they even took elements from Vayam Rakshamah and apparently tribal versions as well. And so on and so forth. 😊

I do agree though, that there needs to be serial that is based almost purely on the Valmiki version(s) of the story. If not anything, it will at least highlight the differences between the old Valmiki and the more popular Tulsidas versions. Plus it will be interesting to finally have a version that treats Shri Ram as more human than God.

In fact, I would also like a Jain Ramayan serial and a Buddhist Ramayan serial. There needs to be awareness about the existence of these other versions. 😊

And of course the Thai version. 😉

I know it is probably impossible, but some day I'd like to see someone (not necessarily Indian) make a serial about the Indonesian Muslim version. Now THAT would be controversial indeed. 😈

High hopes, I know. 😆

Even Valmii Ramayan says that Ram was an incarnation of Vishnu though it does not glorify Ram as God as much as Tulsidas's Ramacharitmanas and Kamban's Ramayanam do.

^ Precisely! Valmiki portrays Ram as intensely human for the majority of the story, despite the references to Ram being a Vishnu incarnation. And this would be a refreshingly new approach in a TV serial based on the epic, in my opinion. 😊

Originally posted by: akhl

Even Valmii Ramayan says that Ram was an incarnation of Vishnu though it does not glorify Ram as God as much as Tulsidas's Ramacharitmanas and Kamban's Ramayanam do.

yes in every version of ramayana it is said that ram was an incarnation of lord vishnu

TULSIDAS JI & VALMIKI JI BOTH MET LORD RAMA !!

so we ppl shud beleive what tulsidasji & valmikiji have written in the RAMAYAN!!

HANUMAN JI ASKED TULSIDASJI to write RAMAYAN & HANUMANJI ALSO HELPED tulsidas ji in writing the RAMAYAN by making him clear & telling him the unkown facts .this was shown in the show JAI HANUMAN (WHICH EARLIER USED TO COME ON DD1 & now a days on sony tv ) .

so TILSIDASJI & VALMIKIJI BOTH met LORD RAMA & SO THEIR WORKS are the most authentic ones !!!

as akhl said, many facts of RAMAYAN are given in Shri mat bhagwat puran ,so the makers of RAVAN ON ZEE ,THE MAKERS OF SHOW JAI HANUMAN ,might be showing the facts from shri mad bhagwat puran also !!!

i saw in show jai hanuman !! tht when tulsidasji used to write RAMCHARIT MANAS every day HANUMANJI used to listen to what tilsidas ji used to write as tulsidasji used to write RAMCHARITMANAS while singing the dohas & then writing it !!! hanuman ji used to sit on the tree & sometime from behind the trunk of the tree ,under which tulsidas ji used to write RAMCHARIT MANAS without the knowledge of tulsidassji .

it was hanuman ji who asked tulsidasji to write THE STORY OF PRABHU SHRI RAM in awadhi lanuage so tht it cud be reached to the common ppl as VALMIKI RAMAYAN was in sanskrit !!!!

so i both THE RAMAYANS OF TULSIDASJI & VALMIKI JI ARE THE AUTHENTIC SOURCES !!! & SHRI MAD BHAGWAD PURAN !! ASLO !!!

Why is the Prithviraj Chauhan serial being counted as part of the 'mythology & fantasy' genre? 😕 It is a historical/period drama, that's all (despite the way the Sagars have stretched and convoluted the story beyond recognition). There's no fantasy or mythology involved there. 😊

Also, the Zee TV show Ravan is not only using the Valmiki Ramayan as the source. They are taking elements from many different versions of the epic. For instance, right now they are showing an adaptation of the story of Ahiravan and Mahiravan which is not in the Valmiki text at all. It can be found in other versions (including folktales) though (mostly South Indian if I remember correctly). Earlier they used Jain versions too. In fact they even took elements from Vayam Rakshamah and apparently tribal versions as well. And so on and so forth. 😊

I do agree though, that there needs to be serial that is based almost purely on the Valmiki version(s) of the story. If not anything, it will at least highlight the differences between the old Valmiki and the more popular Tulsidas versions. Plus it will be interesting to finally have a version that treats Shri Ram as more human than God.

In fact, I would also like a Jain Ramayan serial and a Buddhist Ramayan serial. There needs to be awareness about the existence of these other versions. 😊

And of course the Thai version. 😉

I know it is probably impossible, but some day I'd like to see someone (not necessarily Indian) make a serial about the Indonesian Muslim version. Now THAT would be controversial indeed. 😈

High hopes, I know. 😆

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One cannot really show the Jain and Buddhist versions of Ramayan becoz according to both those versions Ram and Sita are siblings and thus it would very contradictory to show things (i.e they both are children of Kaushalya)
Its indeed controversial and also its authenticity is questionable; whether that version of Ramayan is adjusted according to their custom and tradition is not really known.

All in all we can say that the legend of Ram and Sita is as old as this earth itself, there's a saying in hindi " Nit nayi, purani Ram aur Siya ki kahani " 😊