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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey everyone, I am posting the following info on behalf of Vibhishna. She had emailed this to me and asked me to post this.She is out of town, and will be inactive until the end of May.
From Vibhishna:
Sometime ago there was some discussion on Badhrakali and Bhairavi. Here is what I know about the matter. I didn't have time to look through again and post it there.
Veerabhadhra was created from a single strand of hair from Lord Shiva's head. When Lord Shiva heard of Sati's death, he was mad with rage and plucked out a single strand of hair and threw it on the ground. It became Veerabhadhra. He also shookhis head and from his locks there emerged millions of warriors (the sort of demon warriors who make Lord Shiva's army) He sent the army under the command of Veerabhadhra to destroy Daksha's Yaaga.
I know that Sati gave up her life after Daksha insulted Lord Shiva. I read somewhere that when Daksha insulted Lord Shiva, Sati took up the form of Bhadhrakaali and destroyed the yaaga along with Veerabhadhra. Some stories say that when Sati burnt herself (Am I right in saying that she entered the homa fire and burnt herself?) a form of her rose out as Bhadhrakaali and clong with Veerabhadhra destroyed the yaaga. Some stories say that Veerabhadhra and Bhadhrakaali lived as a couple. Some legends say that Veerabhadhra is also considered as Lord Shiva's son and some others say that Verabhadhra is a form of Lord Shiva.
Also, there was a fight between Veerabhadhra and Vishvaksena - I forgot when and why they fought. Veerabhadhra and impinged his trishul on Vishvaksena and he was stuck there for a long time till the matter was settled (between Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu) and Lord Vishnu asked Veerabhadhra to release Vishvaksena and so he was released.
Hope you all enjoy this, Mallika!😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
#52

Vibs

Dunno whether you're getting to read this, but anyway, here goes:

  1. In serials, I've seen it depicted that Sati just walked into the sacrificial fire. Somewhere else, I recall reading that Sati, using her yogic powers, created a fire that simply consumed her. I tend to believe the latter - after all, after Virbhadra decapitated Daksha, he tossed his head into the sacrificial fire (which is why a goat head had to be used). Had Sati entered the yagna fire herself, would Virbhadra have defiled her by throwing Daksha's head into the same fire, when Sati had disowned him?
  2. From Shiva's locks, I recall that he created Virbhadra as you describe. However, his strands of hair was split into 2, and while one was Virbhadra, the other was Mahakali. This couldn't have been either Sati or Parvati - Sati had just immolated, and was to be re-born as Parvati later. So Mahakali/Bhadrakali, like Virbhadra, was another creation of Shiva.

This does open up another can of worms - something I'm sooooo good at😉:

  1. If Shiva could create Virbhadra that way, then when he granted boons to Surapadma, Taraka and Simhamukha (?), why did he have to wait for Kartikeya? When the devas were tormented, couldn't he have just sent Virbhadra to deal with him?
  2. When Shiva was being blocked from entering his home by Ganesh and sent his entire gana army, as well as the devas, Vishnu, Kartikeya, et al to deal with him, why didn't he send Virbhadra as well? Or did he?
  3. For Mahishashur, why did Devi Durga have to be invoked/created(?)? Couldn't Mahakali have dealt with him?

Hope you enjoy your trip, Vibs - guess this isn't Vidhi doing his stuff, as we all suspected. Or maybe....😉😉😉

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#53
Thanks Mallika di for posting the info and thanks Vibs for the info.
I too had read that Sati immolates herself with a yog-agni but if it were yog agni then how can shivji carry her body and roam all three worlds?😕
@ Chandra bhaiya: Shivji was angry with devtas for partaking fruits of Daksha-yajna maybe becoz which they had to suffer.
Also according to the boon asked by Tarakasura , the son of Shiva from his wife should kill him, thats why they had to wait for Sati to reborn, then woo Shivji ,get married and then a son who would slay Tarakasura...
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Posted: 16 years ago
#54

Ananya

In this incident, both the devas and Vishnu were very much protectors of Daksha and enemies of Shiva. In fact, when the ganas invaded Daksha, the devas were their first obstacle. After they were routed, Indra grounded Nandi, but was trounced by Virbhadra. Then Vishnu took on Virbhadra, but he too was worsted. Then Virbhadra found Daksha hiding, and beheaded him and tossed his head into the fire.

I didn't read of Shiva roaming about with Sati's body anywhere. But was Virbhadra involved when Ganesh blocked Shiva from entering his home? And did Mahishashur vadh precede the creation of Kali, or came long after - I'm not sure of the timelines.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks bhaiya for the former part of ur answer.
In the latter part, when Shivji roams all 3 worlds carrying the body of Sati in anger n frustration which worries all devtas and they appeal Vishnu to calm down Shivji and then Vishnu cuts the body of Sati with his chakra n the parts of body fall on earth in diff places ( all in India) and those pieces are the shakti-peethas.
Shivji calms down on after Brahma n Vishnu assure him that Sati will be reborn and he'll again get back her forever.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Vibs

Dunno whether you're getting to read this, but anyway, here goes:
    In serials, I've seen it depicted that Sati just walked into the sacrificial fire. Somewhere else, I recall reading that Sati, using her yogic powers, created a fire that simply consumed her. I tend to believe the latter - after all, after Virbhadra decapitated Daksha, he tossed his head into the sacrificial fire (which is why a goat head had to be used). Had Sati entered the yagna fire herself, would Virbhadra have defiled her by throwing Daksha's head into the same fire, when Sati had disowned him?
  1. From Shiva's locks, I recall that he created Virbhadra as you describe. However, his strands of hair was split into 2, and while one was Virbhadra, the other was Mahakali. This couldn't have been either Sati or Parvati - Sati had just immolated, and was to be re-born as Parvati later. So Mahakali/Bhadrakali, like Virbhadra, was another creation of Shiva.

This does open up another can of worms - something I'm sooooo good at😉:

    If Shiva could create Virbhadra that way, then when he granted boons to Surapadma, Taraka and Simhamukha (?), why did he have to wait for Kartikeya? When the devas were tormented, couldn't he have just sent Virbhadra to deal with him? When Shiva was being blocked from entering his home by Ganesh and sent his entire gana army, as well as the devas, Vishnu, Kartikeya, et al to deal with him, why didn't he send Virbhadra as well? Or did he?
  1. For Mahishashur, why did Devi Durga have to be invoked/created(?)? Couldn't Mahakali have dealt with him?

Hope you enjoy your trip, Vibs - guess this isn't Vidhi doing his stuff, as we all suspected. Or maybe....😉😉😉

I think each of the above mentioned demons were themselves the reason for creation of their own detroyers.
The asuras were intelligent enough to frame their conditions for their death, and hence everytime to make sure the boon/bane to them was well maintained and thus all these deities have to be created / invoked.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananyacool

Thanks Mallika di for posting the info and thanks Vibs for the info.

I too had read that Sati immolates herself with a yog-agni but if it were yog agni then how can shivji carry her body and roam all three worlds?😕
@ Chandra bhaiya: Shivji was angry with devtas for partaking fruits of Daksha-yajna maybe becoz which they had to suffer.
Also according to the boon asked by Tarakasura , the son of Shiva from his wife should kill him, thats why they had to wait for Sati to reborn, then woo Shivji ,get married and then a son who would slay Tarakasura...



Your welcome, Ananya dear! Vibs also wanted me to wish you congratulations on her behalf for you becoming a viewbie!😊 So congratulations on your achievement!👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika113

Your welcome, Ananya dear! Vibs also wanted me to wish you congratulations on her behalf for you becoming a viewbie!😊 So congratulations on your achievement!👏

Thank you Vibs! Hope you have a great time in ur tour
and double thanks to Mallika di for conveying the message 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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One more question - what happened to Daksha after he regained his life (albeit w/ a goat head) and completed his yagna?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

One more question - what happened to Daksha after he regained his life (albeit w/ a goat head) and completed his yagna?

I don't know much after this except that Daksha / Aja gives up his ego and becomes one of Shiva's primary devotees.

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