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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip


First I thought to post in Doubts and Discussions thread
but I am full of confusion
so better discuss separately...

I m full confused
THey are showing SItaji telling story of SHiv-Sati to Luv-Kush 😲
but it all started only after Satiji met Ramji In Forest when he was searching Sitaji..
Ok may be later Ramji told all this to SItaji ...

but confusion is
Shiv ji after all this dint acccpted Sati Mata as wife
and started doing mediation
for long time
and after that all Daksha Yagya part happened...
so how come Sitaji telling all this
when everything happened simultaneously ....

Also abt Dhanush

From ananyacools post of Doubts n discussions
Virabhadra isn't shown at all I would have been nice if they'd shown
Shivji using a bow to destroy ,Daksha yajna and then Sitaji mentioning
that the very same bow was given to king Janaka ,which Ramji lifts
at Sitaji's swayamvar


How is it possible????

then how the Shiv-Sati Story started with
Ramji (when Ramji searching Sita mata)?


Please Solve this mystery .....






Dear Rupalip and frnds,
Let me share info which I have learnt from my grandma. Once my aunt had worshipped Goddess Katchyayini and in that Puja it was mentioned that Lord Shiva and Sati Devi had lived together happily in Satya yug or Krut Yug. When Sati Devi went to attend the ritual conducted by her father, she was insulted by her father greatly and entered into the fire of ritual and her body was burnt. Learning the truth, Lord Shiva was highly agonised and Veera Bhadra had came out of his agony. Lord Shiva then ordered him to destroy the ritual. Later Shivji then killed Daksh. He took the burnt body of Sati Devi and started wondering all the worlds in search of her. The entire universe started trembling as a result of his agony. Sensing the result of God Shiva's agony Lord Vishnu then sent his Sudarshana chakra towards the burnt body of Sati Devi and as a result all the pieces of Sati Devi were thrown in different directions. (Those are none other than Shakti Peethas as it was mentioned in Devi Bhagavatam ). He was then pacified by all gods. Latter, Daksh was given back his life and he was given the face of goat by celestial Indra.
But I am not sure if Sita Mata told this story to her children or not. I have written what all I had learnt. If any further queries please post me or any of you can edit it.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#12
Thanks Kiran we know this
and we already discussed it
that is why I dint wrote in detail
but my question was

that
In Ramayan we read that all this started after
Sati Mata came as Sitaji infront of Ramji to test him ...
then shivji did long tapasya n after that all Daksh Yagya Part came...

but then how Janak got this dhanush ....
also if both Ramayan and shiv-sati story taking place
simultanously then how in this Ramayan
Sitaji is telling to Luv-KUsh

Actually I started this
coz
in diff versions we read diff stories
and we all here are from diff parts of the world
so I just thot
may be some one heard some other story
related to this ...

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks Avinash
for all details...
hmm so in diff universes same incarnations have diff story
just like
Ramayan and Mahabharat by diff Producers
hehehe

I agree
everything is already written
and no one can change
vidhi ka vidhan

even not prayers
prayers energize us and faith in GOD
help us to face all challenges...


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Posted: 16 years ago
#14

Thanks akhl n Kiranraghu for the info on diff universes n the story of ShaktipITHas, respectively.

@ rupalip: I was referring to the story mentioned in Valmiki Ramayan,

In which Shivji uses a bow to destroy Daksha yajna, interestingly VIrabhadra isn't mentioned in the story.

The story goes thus:

When Shivji destroys Daksha yajna with his bow , in his fury he wants to destroy all the Gods for par-taking the fruits of yajna ,excluding him, at this the gods are terrified and pray to him, Shivji calms down and gives that bow to Devas. Which in-turn is given to 'Devaraata' the ancestor of SIradhwaj Janaka, father of Sitaji. That bow of Shivji was the pride of Janakas and was set as a condition that who-ever strung it, would get Sitaji's hand in marriage .

It would have been nice if ,in the serial that story of devtas giving that bow to Janak's ancestor would have been shown while Sitaji narrated it to K-L
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Ananya

You're actually expecting Valmiki's version from this bunch?😆

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip

Thanks Kiran we know this
and we already discussed it
that is why I dint wrote in detail
but my question was

that
In Ramayan we read that all this started after
Sati Mata came as Sitaji infront of Ramji to test him ...
then shivji did long tapasya n after that all Daksh Yagya Part came...

but then how Janak got this dhanush ....
also if both Ramayan and shiv-sati story taking place
simultanously then how in this Ramayan
Sitaji is telling to Luv-KUsh

Actually I started this
coz
in diff versions we read diff stories
and we all here are from diff parts of the world
so I just thot
may be some one heard some other story
related to this ...

Dear Rupalip, I don't think that the story of Siva - Sati had gone simultaneously with Ramayan. Because I have my own evidences. Now I am in a hurry. I shall post you within a day. By the way this Shiv Dhanush has been achieved as a result of penance by one of the ancestor of King Janaka. I shall post you in detail. Bye
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Posted: 16 years ago
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ok Kiran and ananya
I read this story abt BOW that
was presented to ancestors of Janak

In this Ramayan also in starting they showed
Janak telling all this ...
also once Parshuramji came MIthila
when SItaji was very young....



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Posted: 16 years ago
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Can you please tell me from which source you have found this pointthat sati Devi had met Lord Ram? When Sati Devi has given up her life, she took rebirth as Parvati and became the wife of Lord Shiva.

Lord Shiva after his marriage with Parvati started love making with her for hundred divine years and all the gods started to tremble because none in the world can carry their offspring. They requested God Shiva to discharge the sperm that has stirred up. Further they requested him to practice yogic asceticism along with your consort Goddess Uma in unison with Vedic postulates of Yoga, rather than progeniture, for welfare of the three worlds. Lord Shiva accepted to do so. Gods indicate earth as the taker of the potence that of Lord Shiva that has already stirred up.

As a result Parvati Devi cursed all gods that their wives would become infertile and also she cursed Earth (because she accepted the semen of Lord Shiva on her surface) that she would become wife to many and she shall have no gratification with her (Earth) children because she bigoted against Uma's son. The earth has Naraka, the demon, and Seetha as her children. But these two are not begotten through any seminal contact by earth, and further, for earth it is as good as not having these two as her children, for such is the plight of these two so-called children of earth on earth. After many tumults in her life, even Seetha asks her mother on earth, i.e., mother earth herself, to take her back into her womb. That potence of Lord Shiva is none other than Kaarthikeya or Lord Subrahmanya.

This is mentioned in 36th chapter of Bala Kanda in valmikiramayan.net. From this it is evident that Parvati Devi had become wife to Shiva before Ramayan had started. Then how Sati Devi had met Lord Ram? I am confused.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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It is written in Tulsidas Ramcharitmanas and also in Shiv Puran that Sati devi met Lord Ram.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

It is written in Tulsidas Ramcharitmanas and also in Shiv Puran that Sati devi met Lord Ram.

I am not sure akhl, however I will find it out from my elders. Thanks for replying.

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