Your views on Uttar Ramayan part of the serial

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Posted: 16 years ago
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We all loved this serial so much. But, as many of you have noticed, lately the episodes are not as good as earlier; in fact many episodes have disappointed us. But at the same time, we love this serial so much that rather than letting it continue the way it is going, we would like it too be improved.

Sagars must know our views so that they take the corrective steps. In this thread, please post your views on the Uttar Ramayan part of the serial. Try to be very specific and to the point. Do not use this thread to discuss anything new. It is possible that somebody from Sagars or NDTV imagine will visit this thread. Moreover, we will also try to let your views known to Sagars. Besides writing here, you may also email your views to
raghuvansh2007@gmail.com
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Of course, the decreasing interest in this serial has nothing to do with the actors, because all of them are doing really well, but the storyline is decreasing day by day.
What I do not like most is how Sita was rude to the old woman. I mean, I understand that she wants to bring up her children to be like 'rock and iron' but I'm pretty sure that the real Sita Mata would not turn down soft beds if an old woman walked 10 kosas to bring them for her children. To walk 10 kosas is no joke, especially for an old woman, and she had brought them so lovingly, so it was wrong of the Sagars to show Sita rudely turn down the beds like that. Just my opinion on this...
And I also found the birth of BLS's sons at the same time too cliche. I'm sure they all didn't have twins, and that they were born around the same time. In fact, I found all 4 sisters pregnancy at the same time a bit cliche too. But it became too dramatic when all 4 sisters gave birth to twins.
And of course, the biggest blooper being Lavnasur's story completely outed from the serial. Please Sagars! Show Lavnasur's story at least now. It's better late than never and if you completely remove him from the story, you will be removing a very important chunk from Uttar Ramayan.
Thanks for this thread Akhl.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Okay akhl, here goes.

I think the problem with the Sagars' Uttarkhand is their lack of timeline. The script writer has to have a timeline so that the events fall into place. In Valmiki, the cousins were crowned kings very closely together suggesting that they were born close to each other, time wise.

My suggestions to Sagars about Uttarkhand timeline. This way they can get back on track and not have any more bloopers.

This is the way the Sagars should show the episodes from now on:
1. Growth of kids and shikshas
2. Lavanasur and his death after battle with Shatrughan, Shatrughan establishing Madhupuri and living there for 12 years (comes for the Yagna though)
3. Asvamedha Yagna
4. Lav-Kush singing songs before Ramji
5. Horse allowed to roam, following horse, Hanuman captured, battle with Lav-Kush and defeat of the brothers, Ramji going himself and learning they are his sons.
6. Sita oath and going into earth
7. Kids becoming adults and battles of Lakshman and Bharat to acquire kingdoms for their sons. Bharat returning to Ayodhya
9. Lakshman crowing his sons king in the captured territories and retruning to Ayodhaya
10. Ramji conversation with Kal. Kal saying he has to come back to Vaikunt
11. Sage Dhruvasa coming at that time and asking for audience with Ramji
12. Lakshman refusing and taking Dhruvasa's curse on himself
13. Lakshman going to Sarayu and taken to Vaikunt by Indra
14. Ramji talk with Dhruvasa and learning that Lakshman has left
15. Ramji heart-broken and wants to leave. Bharat and Shatrughan crown their sons king of the places they captured and go with Ramji. Ramji crowing his sons kings of North and South Kosala respectively before leaving. Others who go r Sugreev, avadhis, and others
16. Hanuman, Jambavan, and Vibishan asked to stay on earth
17. Ramji entering Sarayu as Vishnuji with 4 arms with apsaras dancing, rishi/muni chanting mantras, and all the devas including Naradji showering flowers.
18. Vishnuji joining Lakshmiji in Vaikunt.
19. End of Ram avatar
20. The End

Sagars, if u follow this timeline there will be no bloopers. I understand that u r under time and money constraints but (even if u show this in a condensed version) there should be no bloopers in Ramayan.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I think the damage that they've done so far is irrepairable. Even leaving aside the original wish list that posters here contributed - much of which was either true to Valmiki, or in cases of 'poetic licenses' served to smoothen some rough edges, the changes that the Sagars have done in the episodes following Rama's rajabhishek have defied any logic, aside from the historical accuracy.

First of all, even allowing for a Karkati-Lavanasura alliance, it defies logic why Lavanasura, initially spurred by thoughts of revenge, would desist from invading Ayodhya, when he knew that armed with that trishul, he could have wiped out the Raghukul. Of course, in reality, Lavanasura had no plans of war against Ayodhya and was caught napping when Shatrughan invaded. Here, even allowing for the theory that he had plans to avenge Ravan, they've dropped the ball by dropping him from the script.

The next thing - in Valmiki, Rama & Sita spent 10000 years ruling, so at least an episode or so could have been shown of the entire family in happy times. But there was that big rush to get moving with the vanvas, and what made things worse was Sagars showing (to this day) previews of what's to come right up to Sita's passing, thereby spoiling the suspense (even though everybody knows what happens in the end). Instead, the family is shown during and after she is exiled.

Then the circumstances. Granted - most people outside this forum wouldn't necessarily be as generous to Rama as those here, but the way to soften that for them would have been to show Rama asking Lakshman to leave her near Valmiki's ashram, and including a detailed explanation as to why, instead of making Sita the martyr here. An accurate portrayal of that would have been far preferrable.

About the pregnancies, they could have shown the older kids of the brothers being born after K-L, and the younger ones being born in future episodes. In fact, for Shrutakirti, they could have shown her sons being born after she became queen of Mathura.

At this point, I don't see much that is salvagable. This was a golden opportunity for the Sagars to improve on their pretty mediocre original, but instead, they've made it worse.

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Agree Chandra bhaiya, the damage done so far is so much that the show cannot be rectified. Things have gone wrong since day one😔
Atleast now on care should be taken that the show doesn't deviate for written versions of Uttarkand.
and thanks Akhl for this thread.
Edited by ananyacool - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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thanks avi for opening this thread
sagars and ndtv ppl shud read this and realise the grave thing they have done to epic ramayan
i think most of us have already pinpointed the thing
from my point
its lavanasur
again his weird head gear and his copy cat style is irritatin
he doesnt look rakshas he looks some weirdo and he wants to be classy or what dont know
hope this guy improves and makes his own style instead of copying indrajeet
mayb not his fault but the directorial team or make up ppl can improve smthing
though his zulfien wud be knocked off soon i guess
hope sagars show consistencey from now on
pls write to email given above
they wud take action for sure
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ananyacool

Agree Chandra bhaiya, the damage done so far is so much that the show cannot be rectified. Things have gone wrong since day one😔

Atleast now on care should be taken that the show doesn't deviate for written versions of Uttarkand.
and thanks Akhl for this thread.

i agree with u ananya !!!
from the RAJYA ABHISHEK CEREMONY ,sagars started showing major bloopers
& the suggestin thread which was put earlier for sagars wht action was taken by sagars at that ?? 😕
all our hard work in posting the suggestions wasted !!!!
i think sagars team of RAMAYAN has now become very very arrogant ppl ,they think they r the honchoes
they hv become very proud,arrogant types ,they think whatever they r showing is true & is the best !!
this is really bad from sagar team of RAMAYAN !!!
THE team of RAMAYAN shd take lessons from the awesome team of the show JAI SHRI KRISHNA !!!! as both show produced by sagars !!! but the director & technical team of JAI SHRI KRISHNA doing a fabulous job !!!👏
much has been shown uptill now
luv-kush now grown up kids
i think we all wud burn our blood by reminding sagars abt their mistakes ,nothing wud happen & the show wud end soon !!
as uptill now ,what we hv been asking from sagars was never fulfilled ,then how can we expect tht in future they will listen to us & now i think not much time is left !!!
biggest blooper of the century that luv-kush born on RAM NAVMI
even a layman ,even a foreigner wont show that !!!! 😡
if THE GREAT SAINTS & PREACHERS of INDIA like MURARI BAPU gonna watch the uttar kand by sagars he wud faint out of shock !!!!🤢
Edited by sita11 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I have this suggestion for Sagars.
I understand that in order to represent the epic through a TV serial, you have to use your imagination, but keep that too a minimum. Whatever events you show - make sure that they are consistent with the story.
When you are not sure about the effect on the viewver of certain things, then best is to just show what is there in the epic rather than showing your own stories. You showed that Sita asked for exile and Ram was never willing to send her to exile. You did that perhaps because you thought that showing what was written in Valmiki Ramayan will put off the viewvers. But see the effect of the change made by you:-
Ram was shown as a weak character - one who does not take decisions himself, one who is not even sure what decision to take, but others take decision on his behalf.
Because of the change in storyline made by you, you could not do show well the pain of SIta in separating from Ram.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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sita i understand ur pain and anger here
but see this thread is being sent to ramayan team
i dont know if ur words wud work any good
we can only tell to be consistent in line with story
they cud be under pressure from channel dont know
so lets keep to the views ok thanks
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Posted: 16 years ago
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If they are under pressure from the channel, they should either switch channels, or can the serial. Or just show the last episode tomorrow of Rama-ji passing and get it done with.

This isn't a saas-bahu serial - either show the complete, authentic story, or show nothing. Clearly, asking for this team to include Uttarkand was a big mistake.

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