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Posted: 16 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Aradhana87

I agree. We all want a complete and authentic serial.
In my opinion Luv Kush of 21 years ago was too short so I was hoping this one to get longer and complete. I dont want it to be long with fiction.

Yes, I agree with you. The only fault I found with the older Luv Kush (beside its little inaccuracies) was it being too short. They were showing it so good but it seemed as if they rushed it a bit in the end, and I wanted more family scenes with Ram and Luv Kush together but there were only two😔. I was hoping for an extended Luv Kush serial with lots and lots of family scenes in this New Ramayan, but it's more fiction than accurate here.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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It's not fiction. It's the new and improved Ananda Ramayan, which is a lot more modern than Valmiki, and therefore a lot more accurate😈
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

It's not fiction. It's the new and improved Ananda Ramayan, which is a lot more modern than Valmiki, and therefore a lot more accurate😈

True!😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Another major issue I have with the serial is its depiction of the moral environment in Valmiki's ashram (no less)! The whole idea of sending Sita there, as opposed to say Mithila, was that she'd not have to put up with the gossip or the 'odium' that would result (although I still believed that had she been sent to Mithila, what she would have received would have been sympathy).

Start on day 1, when Sita was on her way to Valmiki's ashram, first thing she hears is villagers gloat about Sita being banished, which infuriated her. Next day she hears others attacking Rama for being so cruel. Then when her kids are born and Luv wants to go to the forest, instead of backing her on her objections, both the 'nani' and Valmiki override her.

The worst specimen they could have picked was Vikralt. This guy is a treta yuga punk, no less, so how does he find a home in the ashram? When Vikralt lures them to Takshashura's cave, no action is taken against him for luring them, and worst was yesterday, when during a fight, he taunts them with them not knowing who their father was. People there weren't as shameless as to ask such questions, since kids from all backgrounds did come there for their education.

Regardless of which Ramayan version is being used here, such a depiction isn't far different from the account in Ananda Ramayan of Rama asking Lakshman to cut off Sita's hand and bring it to him as proof. Such a disgusting depiction of an ashram, and that too of the original composer of the Ramayan, is not just uncalled for, but does nothing to enhance the story. The morals being depicted are bizarre - it's okay for other elders to override a mother's objections to her kids, it's okay for a punk to run loose and indirectly cause more misery to an already miserable woman, and the conversations around the place are more akin to that of an Ayodhya paan shop rather than an ashram.

If anybody is talking to the Sagars re: the feedback on the show, this is a major one. Next time Mallika, Chatter, Chandni, Akhl or anyone else talks to anyone from the Sagars, please tell them this - their portrayal of the moral climate in and around Valmiki's ashram is unacceptable.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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and the conversations around the place are more akin to that of an Ayodhya paan shop rather than an ashram.
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I just guessed!!Sorry, I don't know Hindi
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Frnds, these days I am very much disappointed of many deviations from a great epic.
1. Kush Luv are true resemblance of their parents and never lie nor put their mother in grief every time.
2. All the residents of Valmiki hermit love these kids and remaining children are followers of these two.
3. On 9th march episode it is shown that Ramji had stopped taking food in middle. This is the most worse thing (I feel). As pointed by Laxman in previous episodes, Ramji will never insult Goddess Annapurna. By leaving the dining table, he won't also insult other family members (although his grief for separation from his wife is untolerable for him)
4. Why these kids are not learning music? I mean Ramayan Song. It is the main intention of destiny to overcome the ambiguity in society.
I request not to show Sagars in this way. This will definitely show bad impact on audience. They are going in wrong tracks.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranraghu

Frnds, these days I am very much disappointed of many deviations from a great epic.

1. Kush Luv are true resemblance of their parents and never lie norput their mother in grief every time.
2. All the residents of Valmiki hermit love these kids and remaining children are followers of these two.
3. On 9th march episode it is shown that Ramji had stopped taking food in middle. This is the most worse thing (I feel). As pointed by Laxman in previous episodes, Ramji will never insult Goddess Annapurna. By leaving the dining table, he won't also insult other family members (although his grief for separation from his wife is untolerable for him)
4. Why these kids are not learning music? I mean Ramayan Song. It is the main intention of destiny to overcome the ambiguity in society.
I request not to show Sagars in this way. This will definitely show bad impact on audience. They are going in wrong tracks.

Kiranraghu

Fully agree w/ you on #1 & #2.

On #3, I agree with you in the sense that Rama would be completely mindful of the fact that his brothers and nephews are also eating, and that if he shows signs of grief, they won't enjoy eating either. But from a family setting, whoever arranged it would have had to be pretty idiotic to have all the brothers sitting together with their kids: seeing the kids, and that too being fed by their mothers, Rama couldn't have but been reminded of Sita and his unseen kids, and under that circumstance, eating would have been impossible. If Rama had to eat with his brothers, the sensible thing to have done would be not include the kids and wives, but that would have necessarily meant depriving his brothers of some family joy of eating together. The best plan would have been for Rama to eat alone, where he could have eaten stuff similar to whatever Sita ate, instead of the normal royal favorites, while each of his brothers would have eaten w/ their families. Yeah, won't be the same as pre-exile Ayodhya, but after marriage, families do and did 'grow apart'.

#4 is yet to come, or may come later. Note that only Valmiki has the kids singing to Rama's yagna attendees. The others that have the battle scenes generally just have the re-union and Sita's exit after the battle and no music. Of course, Valmiki is more authentic, but given how the Sagars have violated his storyline, this sort of a departure would neither be the first nor the worst. (The worst has already happened - Vishnu and Lakshmi being shown enjoying in Vaikuntha, while Rama & Sita are in a wretched state suffering Durvasa's curse on earth, making a mockery of the original curse).

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Nice points Kiran and Chandraketu😃
Now something else which is also my personal opinion : I think Luv kush are having a modern haircut. I read somewhere that in ashrams munikumar had their hair in jata(dont know the english words). Haircut of Kush is in layers and Luvs hair is only short. Thats why I find it too modern. About Valmiki, I only saw one scene that he told young kush something. I would love to see more of Guru valmiki teaching Luv Kush.
And about Lavnasurs track and TRPs, well I think after LuvKush birth TRPs might have risen so they could have continued the track parallel to LuvKush upbringing. ⭐️
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Posted: 16 years ago
#29
What was the need of introducing Durdant? It was shown that Luv, Kush could not defeat Durdant. Later it will be shown that they defeated Ram's army.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#30
u know i read in the titles
some stories r from jataka tales and some from some folklore of ramayan
what i think is mayb lavansur is already killed but they didnt show now for some reason
now his entry wud be shown sort of flashback they have to get him back now copy cat or no copy cat
plus i dont get this thing now
how can luv kush with no knowledge of weapons get wind and fire weapon to kill durdaant
i dont get this point at all

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