Ram and Krushna & Ramayan & Mahabharat-Comparison - Page 4

Originally posted by: godisone

Random Comment that I just have to share:

In my 1st siggie, on the lower right hand corner, look at the face of Sita's friend. Isn't it kind of creepy the way it was suddenly taken? Sitas friend looks like a murderous stalker or something. I just noticed that.😆

oh Lalitha, its jus so funny. havnt actually noticed that before!!!!!!!!😆

Originally posted by: godisone

I too have heard of Abhimanyu's marriage to Balarama's daughter, but the name I heard was Sesirekha, not Sundari or Vatsala.

There was a black and while Telugu Movie based on Abhimanyu and Sesirekha's love story, called Mayabazaar. It's a very good movie and the songs are really nice. The story matches with the one you just provided 95%.

Originally posted by: bharat999

Didnt know that Ramayan begins from Lav and Kush and then it includes the history of previous 7 generations. Is this the Valmiki Ramayan?
Tulsidas's Ramchritramanas begins with Shiva-Parvati conversation (or someone else?!)

Thanks you everyone for participating, and correcting me wherever i was wrong, somehow i din't visited forum after when reply was 18 , but now its 32 so i have to read all carefully, thanks everyone for posting great information and views, I think now i need to edit my first post for few correction and including few more information😃

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Vasudev was never king - in fact, Ugrasena diedafter the Yadava fracticide the same time that Vasudev did. After Arjuna arrived at Dwaraka to evacuate the survivors, Vasudev entrusted them all to his care, and passed away that night. Same happened to Ugrasena. (According to another account of the Puranas that I read but don't give much credence to, all the womenfolk, along with Ugrasena & Vasudeva commited self immolation). It's true that Ugrasena had no sons aside from Kamsa, but once Arjuna took everyone away, the only survivor from the family was Anirudha/Usha's son Vajra. Arjun installed him on the throne at Mathura, and left Subhadra with him as caretaker.

The one case of maternal succession I know of was Chitrangada. Since her father had no sons, he allowed Arjun to marry his daughter only on condition that her son would be an inheritor tohis kingdom, and not the Pandavas'. Since Babruvahana wouldn't have stood to succeed Yudhisthir anyway (although I wonder whether Yudhisthir wished that once the war was over?), Arjun had no problem accepting the request. Another by-product of this decision that Babruvahana was the only surviving son of Arjun after the war.

I never said vashudeva was king , i said he succeeded Ugrasena in kingship, what i meant is he was installed as crown prince of mathura in ugrasena reign i.e yuvraaj. And thanks for chitrangada information. i think she is daughter of king of manipur. Arjuna had agreed to the stipulation that he would take away neither his wife Chitrangada nor any children borne by her from Manipur and wed the princess on this premise.I doubt whether babruvahana participated in mahabharata war , because babruvahana and chitrangada were there at manipur as according to promise arjun left chitrangada and babruvahana in manipur , though i am not sure, then there is another story of babruvahana capturing horse of ashmedha yagna and fight with arjun and killing of arjun and then ullopi other wife of arjun installing life back to arjun. this story if you know in detail then please tell. i have a doubt here that whether babruvahana din't recognised his father or what or arjun din't recognised his own son? or the reason of fight were something different

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Krishna ruled Mathura for a few years then he established the kingdom of Dwarika.

Krushna never ruled. before establishing the kngdome dwarika ugresena was ruling and after that also ugrasena was ruler. krishn father vashudeva was made succesor though he also din't ruled

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

But the Ramayan I read started from Devrishi Narad visiting Sage Valmiki although another version started from Kush and Lav singing the Ramayan.

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

Krushna never ruled. before establishing the kngdome dwarika ugresena was ruling and after that also ugrasena was ruler. krishn father vashudeva was made succesor though he also din't ruled

But Rajnish one of His name is Dwarikadhish. In Ramanand Sagars Shrikrishna also it was shown that Krishna ruled Dawrika

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

But Rajnish one of His name is Dwarikadhish. In Ramanand Sagars Shrikrishna also it was shown that Krishna ruled Dawrika

thats because he got the dwarika city built by viswakarma and did all organization of the city . Although dwarikadhish means king of dwarika he never ruled dwarika. the other way we can define this though ugrasena was ruler of dwarika , krishna was most respected person in dwarika and all important decision was being taken by him, he was ultimate authority and even king ugrasena din't do anything without krishna advice. All heroic deeds & leela of lord Krishna were done from Dwarka where he remained for over 100 years. Krishna at the age of eighty four became chariot driver of Arjuna and lived for 36 years after the victory of Mahabharat war. Krishna organized Dwarka since the king was his maternal grand father Ugrasena. Balram was the Prime Minister & he himself was an ambassador.
krishn is not only king of dwarika dwarikadish but king of entire universe. so he is also called Jagannath.

Originally posted by: akhl

Narad visits Valmiki. Valmiki lists some qualities and asks Narad if there is any person who possesses all these qualities. Narad says yes and tells about Ram.
After that there is incident of a hunter killing a bird and Lord Brahma visiting Valmiki. Brahma gives power to Valmiki that he will know the details about Ram's life and asks him to compose Ramayan.
After Brahma goes, Valmiki composes Ramayan and teaches it to Luv and Kush. The two boys sing the epic in front of many people. Ram comes to know about it and invites Luv and Kush to sing Ramayan. Luv and Kush start singing.
Then the story goes in flashback.