Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 16

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Till where did Kush and Lav recite the Uttar Kand?

I thought the Uttar Kand ends with Ram leaving this world. Isn't that so? If it is, who wrote, sang and publicised the rest of the events that happened after the recital of Kush an dLav?

[quote=Valmiki]Sarg 95 - Raam Calls Seetaa

After that those children recited that epic for several says. After the six Kaand, Raam came to know that they were Seetaa's sons, He sent two messengers to Vaalmeeeki's Aashram with the message that if Seetaa is pure and clean, then She should come and convince Ayodhyaa's public. If Seetaa wants to clear our black spot then She should come here and take vow to be clean and pure.

Sarg 98 - Brahmaa Jee Consoles Raam

Raam got very sad at disappearing of Seetaa in Rasaatal. He started weeping, then said angrily - "Our Lakshmee-like Seetaa got disappeared in front of me? If we brought Her after killing Raavan, then I can bring Her back from Rasaatal also. Hey Prithvi, Seetaa took birth from you at the time when Raajaa Janak was tilling his land. Thus you are my mother-in-law. You return my Seetaa back, otherwise you take me also there. Wherever Seetaa will live, I will also live at the same place. If you will not return my Seetaa as She was, then I will hurt you along with mountains and caves, and destroy you."

Seeing Raam so much grieved, Brahmaa said - "Hey Raam, You are the incarnation of Vishnu. You should not be so sad. Seetaa has gone to Naag Lok. You listen to this Vaalmeeki written Uttar Kaand attentively. This is very good epic. Your character is described in this epic, so you listen to its remaining part." Brahmaa Jee went away after telling this to Raam.

Raam said to Vaalmeeki Jee - "Hey Tapaswee, All Rishi Gan are curious to listen to my future. Therefore the remaining part should be recited tomorrow." Lav and Kush also went to their hut built from leaves.

Sarg 99 - Remaining Raamaayan

Next day Raam called all Muni and kings and told His sons to recite the remaining part. Lav and Kush started reciting. After Seetaa had left for Rasaatal, Raam completed His Yagya with great difficulty. He sent off all Vaanar, Raakshas and kings and came back to Ayodhyaa. He was extremely sad in Ayodhyaa. He did not remarry so in every Yagya He used to keep a gold statue of Seetaa beside Him.
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Originally posted by: sita11

i think in bhagvad puran the life of luv-kush & the lives of all the sons of lakshman,shatrughana & bharat is given !!!!

their lives hv been discussed in detail in bhagvad puran !!!!

so the raghukulfamily decendants ,hv been discussed to the fullest in bhagvad puran !!!

by the way it wud b quite interesting to know whether any memebr of raghukul family cud b found in todays time ,i think still members of raghukul family wud b alived ,their decendants wud still b there !!!!

I've heard (not read) parts about Kush's history from then on - his conquest of the Vindyas, his marriage to Kumudhati. I've not heard about Luv or any of the nephews' history being told there. You mentioned Luv - any account of what happened to the nephews? This is the most fascinating part of the Ramayan to me these days - the Raghuvansh successors. Particularly interesting from a history standpoint

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Hey thank you so much for this info!!👏

Its very much possible that this hill might have been Gandhamadana as described in Skanda Puran which says that Gandhamadana hill was near southern sea of India.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Sita

I've heard (not read) parts about Kush's history from then on - his conquest of the Vindyas, his marriage to Kumudhati. I've not heard about Luv or any of the nephews' history being told there. You mentioned Luv - any account of what happened to the nephews? This is the most fascinating part of the Ramayan to me these days - the Raghuvansh successors. Particularly interesting from a history standpoint

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Hey thank you so much for this info!!👏

Its very much possible that this hill might have been Gandhamadana as described in Skanda Puran which says that Gandhamadana hill was near southern sea of India.

Originally posted by: sita11

def .the successors of RAGHUKUL family is a fascinating part of RAMAYAN & many ppl not aware much abt this part !!!😊 & thanks for the info abt the wife of kush !!! & in the show JAI HANUMAN not much was shown abt the nephews of LUV-KUSH as HANUMANJI used to b all time with luv -kush only

i remember there was one scene in tht show when the sons of shatrughana were shown !!!!

@ vibhishan ---the show JAI HANUMAN was shown upto kalyuga on doordarshan channel

but on sony tv the show was abrubbtely stopped ,dunno why ??but originally the show was shown at DOODARSHAN -the national channel ,in tht the story of hanumanji till kalyuga was shown ,

yes hanumanji saved luv-kush many times from the clutches of monsters ,i clearly don't rememebr whether it was rahu as i saw this show 5-6 yrs back on doordarshan ,but this show showed many parts of RAM-SITA & RAHGHUKUL family life ,which was never ever shown before in any tv show or in any movies !!!!

Chandraketu (or anyone),

Originally posted by: chen2chic

In the Skanda Puran, there is an episode of "Hanumath Kund" in Gandamadana Hills. These hills are also said to be a favorite spot of Lord Hanuman. In Hanumath Sahasranamavali it says "OM GANDAMADANA SAILASTHANAI NAMAHA". As per this Hanumath Kund episode, there is a description of how Gandamadana hills look.

As per the views of Prof. M A Padmanabha Rao (a researcher on ayurvedic medicine, AIIMS), the Andaman islands are more fitting here as per the below reasons.

1) It is said that these hills are in the southern sea and look like a bridge. And taking Andaman islands into consideration, it would seem fit here. In ancient times 'Aryavrata-the ancient name of India' was the region only uptil the central India that was inhabited. The region below was just thick forests not inhabited by humans. And Aryavrata extended uptil present day China and Afghan on the north east and north west sides. So the southern sea to it might most appropriately be the present Bay of Bengal. And Andamans are located in it and from above they do look like a bridge...

2) Andaman Islands have certain trees called "Guggul" which are very aromatic and were used for prayers. This supports the name for these hills "Gandamadan" which mean intoxicating with scent.

3) The very name Andaman seems to have been derived from Gandamadan....

G A N D A M A D A N

A N D A M A N

So probably the Andaman Islands were the Gandamadana mountains of the past.

There is a belief Gandamadan was situated east of Mt. Meru which was believed to be the centre of earth.

And there is another one saying it is on Mount Kailas.

But then the Gandamdan mentioned in the Mahbharat has been located somewhere in Orissa a place called "Parimalagiri" when Bhim sets out to find the thousand petalled blue lotus for Draupadi and encounters Hanuman. This Gandamadan in Mahbharat would suit Orissa more since there are no instances that the Pandavas crossed any sea or water body during their exile.

And then in the Ramayan, there is mentioned a Gandamdan where the vanar sena rests on their way back from Lanka. this would mostly be the one near Rameshwaram.

So there are chances there could have been more than one Gandamadan.

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Oh my God..........

One day I do not log on to the forum and lo.............. how many posts............ I cant even imagine how you guys manage to write so quickly. But pardon me, I have a 3 yr old, so I have to steal time from her to sit on the computer.

But its so nice to learn all these new things......... Kudos to all.........