Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 17

Originally posted by: chen2chic

No comments so far . . . I too have not been able to find out any more informaiton on this 😭😭😭

Originally posted by: godisone

Chandraketu (or anyone),

Can you please tell me the story of Kush and Kumudhati? I think it'd be pretty interesting to learn about one of Shri Ram and Sita Mata's daugters-in-law.😉What lucky ducks, to have Ram and Sitaas father-in-law and mother-in-law! But it's sad that poor Kumudhati was never welcomed into Ayodhya by Sita herself like young Sita and her sisters were by the Raj Matas.😭

I've read limited accounts of it, not the story itself, and am always looking for more info on this. Kumudhati and whoever married Luv were not 'lucky ducks' - the marriages of both took place (probably a while) after Rama had passed on. Neither Rama nor Sita got to enjoy the marriages of their sons. Kumudhati was the sister of a Naga ruler Kumudh, and Kush married her after he had extended his kingdom to the Vindyas. They had a son Atithi, who continued the Raghukul dynasty, and according to Ananyacool, a daughter as well. That's about all I know.

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

Following are the composition of marishi vyasha

1-Mahabharata
2- All eighteen major puranas or mahapurana
3- brahma sutras

he also categories single veda into four hence he is called Veda Vyasa, or "Splitter of the Vedas".

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

I thought the vedas were already categorized into 4 during the time of Rama, so how could Vyasa have been the one to do that? Particularly since Satyavati didn't exist during the time of Rama, so neither could Veda Vyasa.

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

Maharishi vyash

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

I thought the vedas were already categorized into 4 during the time of Rama, so how could Vyasa have been the one to do that? Particularly since Satyavati didn't exist during the time of Rama, so neither could Veda Vyasa.

Paraashar Jee said - "Maitreya, Ved has thousands of branches. In every Dwaapar Yug, Bhagavaan Vishnu appears as Vyaas and divides one Ved into many. He does that because He knows that human mind is not strong enough to understand it wholly. By which physical body He does that, its name is Ved Vyaas.

In each Dwaapar Yug of Vaivaswat Manvantar( which is present manvantar), Vyaas Rishi has divided Ved 28 times. (This means that in this present Manvantar, 28 Chatur-Yug have passed and this is Kali Yug of the 28th 4-Yug period).

In 1st Dwaapar Yug Brahmaa Jee himself divided Ved.
In 2nd Dwaapar Yug Prajaapati divided Ved.
In 3rd Dwaapar Yug Shukraachaarya Jee divided Ved.
In 4th Dwaapar Yug Brihaspati divided Ved.
In 5th Dwaapar Yug Soorya divided Ved.
In 6th Dwaapar Yug Mrityu divided Ved.
In 7th Dwaapar Yug Indra divided Ved.
In 8th Dwaapar Yug Vashishth divided Ved.
In 9th Dwaapar Yug Saaraswat divided Ved.
In 10th Dwaapar Yug Tridhaamaa divided Ved.
In 11th Dwaapar Yug Trishikh divided Ved.
In 12th Dwaapar Yug Bharadwaaj divided Ved.
In 13th Dwaapar Yug Antariksh divided Ved.
In 14th Dwaapar Yug Varnee divided Ved.
In 15th Dwaapar Yug Trayyaarun divided Ved.
In 16th Dwaapar Yug Dhananjaya divided Ved.
In 17th Dwaapar Yug Kratunjaya divided Ved.
In 18th Dwaapar Yug Jaya divided Ved.
In 19th Dwaapar Yug Bharadwaaj divided Ved.
In 20th Dwaapar Yug Gautam divided Ved.
In 21st Dwaapar Yug Haryaatmaa divided Ved.
In 22nd Dwaapar Yug Vaajshravaa divided Ved.
In 23rd Dwaapar Yug Trinbindu of Somshushm divided Ved.
In 24th Dwaapar Yug Riksh from Bhrigu's family, called Vaalmeeki, divided Ved.
In 25th Dwaapar Yug Shakti (Paraashar's father, Vashishth's son) divided Ved.
In 26th Dwaapar Yug Paraashar (myself) divided Ved.
In 27th Dwaapar Yug Jaatukarn divided Ved.
In 28th Dwaapar Yug Krishn Dwaipaayan divided Ved.( this means present ved vyasha is krishn dwaipaayan)

Thus these 28 Vyaas are the previous ones. After my son Krishn Dwaipaayan, in the next Dwaapar Yug, Drone's son Ashwathhaamaa will be Ved Vyaas.

Originally posted by: akhl

There are 4 yugas - Satya yug, Treta yug, Dwapar yug, Kali yug.
Like us, Lord Brahma also has his day time and night time.
In one day time of Brahma, there are 1000 cycles of the 4 yugas.
Also, in one day of Brahma, there are 14 Manus. Manu is guardian of the world.
Thus each Manu rules for 1000/14 = a little over 71 cycles of the 4 yugas.
Currently, we are being ruled by Manu known as Vaivasvat Manu. He is the 7th Manu and he is the son of Sun god. This means that 6 Manus have already come and gone.

In the time of each Manu, there is one Indra, 7 saptarshis, and one Ved Vyas.
The next Manu will be Savarni. He is also a son of Sun god. During his time, king Mahabali will become Indra(king of heaven). This is the same Mahabali (also called Bali) from whom Lord Vishnu (in his dwarf incarnation) asked for three steps of land.

During each Manu, there is one Ved Vyas. His job is to explain Vedas so that others gain knowledge of Vedas. Current Ved Vyas is Krishn Dwaipayan. He is the one, who fathered Dhritarashtra, Pandu and Vidur. (You may have seen about this in the Mahabharat serial).

During Savarni Manu, Ashwatthama will be Ved Vyas.
During each Manu, there are 7 sages called as saptarshis. Currently, they are Kashyapa, Atri, Vashishtha, Vishvamitra, Gautam, Jamadagni and Bhardwaj.

During Savarni Manu, the 7 sages will be Galav, Diptiman, Parashuram, Ashwatthama, Kripacharya, Rishyshring and Krishn Dwaipayan(the current Ved Vyas).

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

yes it was ved vyash who did the spitting as mentioned in vishnupuran, triteeya ansh. We need to understand here first whether Vyasa was a single person or a class of scholars who did the splitting The Hindu view of the universe is that of a cyclic phenomenon that comes into existence and dissolves repeatedly. Each cycle is presided over by a number of Manus, one for each Manavavtar, that has four ages or chaturyuga.
For this it is explined in vishnu puran as this

Maitreya Jee said - "I have known that this whole world is born from Vishnu, is established in Vishnu, and is nothing except Vishnu. Now I wish to hear about "how Bhagavaan has divided Ved in the form of Ved Vyaas in every 4-Yug."

Paraashar Jee said - "Maitreya, Ved has thousands of branches. In every Dwaapar Yug, Bhagavaan Vishnu appears as Vyaas and divides one Ved into many. He does that because He knows that human mind is not strong enough to understand it wholly. By which physical body He does that, its name is Ved Vyaas.

In each Dwaapar Yug of Vaivaswat Manvantar( which is present manvantar), Vyaas Rishi has divided Ved 28 times. (This means that in this present Manvantar, 28 Chatur-Yug have passed and this is Kali Yug of the 28th 4-Yug period).

In 1st Dwaapar Yug Brahmaa Jee himself divided Ved.
In 2nd Dwaapar Yug Prajaapati divided Ved.
In 3rd Dwaapar Yug Shukraachaarya Jee divided Ved.
In 4th Dwaapar Yug Brihaspati divided Ved.
In 5th Dwaapar Yug Soorya divided Ved.
In 6th Dwaapar Yug Mrityu divided Ved.
In 7th Dwaapar Yug Indra divided Ved.
In 8th Dwaapar Yug Vashishth divided Ved.
In 9th Dwaapar Yug Saaraswat divided Ved.
In 10th Dwaapar Yug Tridhaamaa divided Ved.
In 11th Dwaapar Yug Trishikh divided Ved.
In 12th Dwaapar Yug Bharadwaaj divided Ved.
In 13th Dwaapar Yug Antariksh divided Ved.
In 14th Dwaapar Yug Varnee divided Ved.
In 15th Dwaapar Yug Trayyaarun divided Ved.
In 16th Dwaapar Yug Dhananjaya divided Ved.
In 17th Dwaapar Yug Kratunjaya divided Ved.
In 18th Dwaapar Yug Jaya divided Ved.
In 19th Dwaapar Yug Bharadwaaj divided Ved.
In 20th Dwaapar Yug Gautam divided Ved.
In 21st Dwaapar Yug Haryaatmaa divided Ved.
In 22nd Dwaapar Yug Vaajshravaa divided Ved.
In 23rd Dwaapar Yug Trinbindu of Somshushm divided Ved.
In 24th Dwaapar Yug Riksh from Bhrigu's family, called Vaalmeeki, divided Ved.
In 25th Dwaapar Yug Shakti (Paraashar's father, Vashishth's son) divided Ved.
In 26th Dwaapar Yug Paraashar (myself) divided Ved.
In 27th Dwaapar Yug Jaatukarn divided Ved.
In 28th Dwaapar Yug Krishn Dwaipaayan divided Ved.( this means present ved vyasha is krishn dwaipaayan)

Thus these 28 Vyaas are the previous ones. After my son Krishn Dwaipaayan, in the next Dwaapar Yug, Drona's son Ashwathhaamaa will be Ved Vyaas.

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