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Posted: 16 years ago
I don't recall reading about the origin of the thunderbolt. One would probably have to read the Rig Veda❓ to find that one out.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Yeah, I've always wondered - why are they divided on this? What is the compelling evidence that the Uttarkand wasn't in the original Ramayan?

And if it wasn't, how did Kush & Luv get to sing it first? Or is that also considered inauthentic?

Till where did Kush and Lav recite the Uttar Kand?
I thought the Uttar Kand ends with Ram leaving this world. Isn't that so? If it is, who wrote, sang and publicised the rest of the events that happened after the recital of Kush an dLav?
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Posted: 16 years ago
i think in bhagvad puran the life of luv-kush & the lives of all the sons of lakshman,shatrughana & bharat is given !!!!
their lives hv been discussed in detail in bhagvad puran !!!!
so the raghukul family decendants , hv been discussed to the fullest in bhagvad puran !!!
by the way it wud b quite interesting to know whether any memebr of raghukul family cud b found in todays time ,i think still members of raghukul family wud b alived ,their decendants wud still b there !!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sita11

i think in bhagvad puran the life of luv-kush & the lives of all the sons of lakshman,shatrughana & bharat is given !!!!

their lives hv been discussed in detail in bhagvad puran !!!!
so the raghukul lineage has been discussed to the fullest in bhagvad puran !!!

It is!!! 😲 I must start reading Bhagvad Puran. I haven't finished reading all the Puranas.
Someday, I wish to complete it all 😍
What is given in the Bhagvad Puran about Kush and Lav and their lives?
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Friends, I just realised something. Sometime before, there was a topic on whether one of the mountains in the Andaman Islands could have beed the famous Gandamana Mountain. I had thought that there is a good chance that one of the hills in the Andaman Islands could be the Gandhamana Mountain. I totally forgot about Rameshwaram.

Rameshwaram is a small town situated on an island near the mainland of TamilNadu. There is a hill by name Gandhamana near Rameshwaram about 2 or 3 km from there. It is the highest peak in the island. Also, a shrine of Sri Ram exists here. The footprints of Lord Ram placed on a chakra is found in the shrine. (I have long wanted to visit this place. 😍)
Could this hill be the Gandhamana mountain?

No comments so far . . . I too have not been able to find out any more informaiton on this 😭😭😭
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

It is!!! 😲 I must start reading Bhagvad Puran. I haven't finished reading all the Puranas.
Someday, I wish to complete it all 😍
What is given in the Bhagvad Puran about Kush and Lav and their lives?

its such a thick book ,tht one really needs a lot of guts to read bhagwad puran 😛
in the show jai hanuman on doordarshan & then it was shown on sony tv ,the life of luv-kush was shown
luv & kushs marriage ,luv falling in love wid a cute princess ,hanumanji was always with luv & kush
hanumanji fixed the marriage of luv with the princess ,i don't remember her name !!!!
but in this show jai hanuman directed & produced by sanjay khan ,a lot of stuff abt luv-kush lives was shown
even luv-kush going emotional by rememebring their parents RAM-SITA ,hanumanji consoling luv-kush & luv-kush considering hanumanji their parent ,luv-kush established a temple at the name of their parents RAM-SITA & every day luv-kush doing pooja in tht temple & hanumanji spending most of his time in tht temple & when RAMJI went back to his baikunth lok ,Ramji ASKED HANUMANJI TO TAKE care of luv-kush & to b with them n such emotional aspect was shown in tht tv show JAI HANUMAN ,taking the inputs from bhagvad puran !!!!
& once member akhl wrote in any of the threads tht in bhagvad puran the raghukul family decendants life has been described to the fullest !!!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Yeah, I've always wondered - why are they divided on this? What is the compelling evidence that the Uttarkand wasn't in the original Ramayan?

And if it wasn't, how did Kush & Luv get to sing it first? Or is that also considered inauthentic?

Most scholars are divided on this issue because Balkand and Uttarkand are not consistent with each other ,with respect to certain incidents like story of Ahalya; Balkand says that Ahalya knowingly committed adultery while uttar kand says that she didn't know about Indra and was thus decieved.. The style of writing is also different .
According to Brahmarishi PV Vartak Uttar Kand is very much a part of Ramayana and it completes the deficiencies of the main epic. He has done extensive research on Ramayana and has given scientific evidences to support it.
Do read his book 'Vastav Ramayan' to find some amazing revealations.
Alternatively visit this link :
Here the author describes the life of Rama and Sita extensively and what prompts Valmiki to write Ramayana.
Personally I believe Kush and Lav-sons of Sita -Rama and disciples of Brahmarishi Valmiki and they did sing Ramayana in front of their father , they were so accomplished in this task that they gave rise to the tradition of bards being known as 'Kushilava'
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sita11

its such a thick book ,tht one really needs a lot of guts to read bhagwad puran 😛
in the show jai hanuman on doordarshan & then it was shown on sony tv ,the life of luv-kush was shown
luv & kushs marriage ,luv falling in love wid a cute princess ,hanumanji was always with luv & kush
hanumanji fixed the marriage of luv with the princess ,i don't remember her name !!!!
but in this show jai hanuman directed & produced by sanjay khan ,a lot of stuff abt luv-kush lives was shown
even luv-kush going emotional by rememebring their parents RAM-SITA ,hanumanji consoling luv-kush & luv-kush considering hanumanji their parent ,luv-kush established a temple at the name of their parents RAM-SITA & every day luv-kush doing pooja in tht temple & hanumanji spending most of his time in tht temple & when RAMJI went back to his baikunth lok ,Ramji ASKED HANUMANJI TO TAKE care of luv-kush & to b with them n such emotional aspect was shown in tht tv show JAI HANUMAN ,taking the inputs from bhagvad puran !!!!
& once member akhl wrote in any of the threads tht in bhagvad puran the raghukul family decendants life has been described to the fullest !!!

I have seen Jai Hanuman before - but not fully. I did see some parts of the life of Kush and Luv. I saw that Hanuman took care of Kush and Luv for a long time. He helped them out in an encounter with Raahu (it was him, right?) but the serial was stopped abruptly (I was watching it in Tamil).
I personally enjoyed the series - some variations from the oiginal story but still it was done very well.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Most scholars are divided on this issue because Balkand and Uttarkand are not consistent with each other ,with respect to certain incidents like story of Ahalya; Balkand says that Ahalya knowingly committed adultery while uttar kand says that she didn't know about Indra and was thus decieved.. The style of writing is also different .
According to Brahmarishi PV Vartak Uttar Kand is very much a part of Ramayana and it completes the deficiencies of the main epic. He has done extensive research on Ramayana and has given scientific evidences to support it.
Do read his book 'Vastav Ramayan' to find some amazing revealations.
Alternatively visit this link :
Here the author describes the life of Rama and Sita extensively and what prompts Valmiki to write Ramayana.
Personally I believe Kush and Lav-sons of Sita -Rama and disciples of Brahmarishi Valmiki and they did sing Ramayana in front of their father , they were so accomplished in this task that they gave rise to the tradition of bards being known as 'Kushilava'

Thank you very much for the information ananyacool. I'll surely read the book as soon as I can get my hands on it.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

No comments so far . . . I too have not been able to find out any more informaiton on this 😭😭😭

Hey thank you so much for this info!!👏
Its very much possible that this hill might have been Gandhamadana as described in Skanda Puran which says that Gandhamadana hill was near southern sea of India.

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