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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Dear Madam,
It is very unfortunate that you are trying to console Charu, and you have no words for the person who insulted her. The way sita11 wrote in" old bold letters"--it seems from your explanation that you support her in her actions.
Only one article that I found insulting was when someone by the name "SitaLaxmi" was trying to abuse Ramayan for no solid reason. But later on, she also played safe by apologising.
Discussions and disagreeements are always welcome in any GD, but one should have the basic courtesy of not attacking a person in particular. Please read my reply to Mr. Rajnish and you can make out the level of arrogance that Ms. Sita had reached. And if you still support her, then no use of discussing this any more.



Dear Sharbani
I m not tryin to console her. In my post I clearly wrote that I disagree with Sitadi that charu's post "why shri ram is not living in a kutiya" a offensive one.

In one of her post under the thread " Sitaji too firece now a days" charu wrote that she was insulted here. even under this thread she wrote that she was insulted. I agree her reply abt Mandodari was misunderstood. what I said is that creating separate topic for such issues, minor bloopers, performance of actors is unnecessary though not wrong.

Charu is a nice girl pls forgive if anything hurted u charu. pls dont take disagreements as insult. wud like to know abt u.pls. fill the slam book which is created by Samiksha (sam1903) for all Ramayan forum members.😊

Regarding Sita di n use of bold letters my view is that she uses them beoz she likes big fonts. dont misunderstand it. Once I posted something abt Lord Ram releasing brahmaastra she advised me to use bold fonts to make the post more beautiful. She just loves bold fonts n colors. pls dont connect it with arrogance. even when she praises anything she used bold big fonts. Its her style. dont misinterpret it


Edited by coolpurvi - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#52




Sita, i did not mean to demean krishnajii's character; and i wasn't aware me bringing in celebrities would have offended ppl. However, many ppl did find it offensive. So, I apologize for doing so.



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well the title of ur thread itself is THE WEAK CHARACTER OF KRISHNAJI !!!!
i hope in future u won't compare GODS TO MOVIE ACTORS !!!
it's ok if u did out of ignorance !!!!
lets not argue anymore as it is really turning into heated arguements !!!!
we all r devotees of GOD !!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#53
Let me try to bring the discussion back on track. By track I mean the purpose for which the thread starter started this thread.
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Godisone wants to know what happened to Mandodari after Ravan's death.
Charu does not believe that Mandodari married Vibhishan. Reasons given by her are that Mandodari had a grown up, married son and perhaps grandchildren too. Moreover, she has noticed that Ramayan serials (of Ramanand Sagar and also of Anand Sagar) have shown Mandodari and Vibhishan talking like mother and son. Because of these reasons, she thinks that Mandodari did not marry Vibhishan.

Diva82 does not think that Mandodari married Vibhishan though she is not sure. However, according to her, such a marriage (if it really happened) cannot be termed wrong according to the culture of that time. This is because in those days, a queen married the new king after the death of her previous husband (i.e. original king). This was done for the sake of kingdom. Moreover, it also protected the widowed queen. Moreover, among rakshasas, remarriage was common.
Sita11 is sure that Mandodari did not marry Vibhishan. Vibhishan always respected her and sought her opinions in running the kingdom.
Omshanti1111 also is sure that Mandodari never married Vibhishan. Ram blessed her that she would never become widow. That blessing became true in figurative sense because Ravan's pyre burned for ever.
Coolpurvi - According to Kamban Ramayan, Mandodari embraced the dead body of Ravan, called Ravan's name aloud and gave up her life.
Huduga is not sure but has read about the marriage between Vibhishan and Mandodari in a few places. Moreover, Huduga says that such remarriages were often done for political reasons.
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Please proceed with this discussion.
Edited by akhl - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#54

@godisone & Omshanti111, Thanks so much for understanding my viewpoint . We don't know each other personally or through PM's or even in the forums but still you people understood my stand, thanks so much for that..

@Coolpurvi - I really respect your views because you know more about Ramayan than i guess, anyone else on this forum. Your arguments always impressed me and many times, they were an eyeopener for me. I'm referring to the topic of Agnipareeksha , Bali's death, Sita's exile and Laxman's exile...BUT I didn't know (as i wrote in my prev. post to sita11 that i'm not as regular in the forum) , I was unaware WHERE I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know that no new topics must be created for such petty topics like bloopers etc... I am a God fearing person & for me, God is not Ram or Krishna or any other..He is GOD..and i believe if we could embibe 0.001% of those values and their teachings withing us, our lives will be more meaningfull and we'll achieve the objectives of our lives...
And the first and foremost thing we must do is to respect the creations of God..I heard from somebody that if you consider everything in this world a part of you, you will love them like you love yourself ..and there will be peace and love all over...The reason I'm saying all this is that if we are not tolerant & patient towards the views of fellow members on this forum, the forum will become a battleground....Ramayan , Mahabharata and JSK forums must be the best forums bec. we are such firm believers in God ...Then why so much attitude, so much arrogance by some members? What happened in this post was an insult not a disagreement.,.I cant understand how and why i'm answerable for ALL those who disagree. or I don't know..when they or I were trying to create confusions or chaos intentionally.
@ Rajnish - my dear, my message which you posted , I read it and re-read it many times but I have no clue where I've said anything against Ramayan ..I was trying to say about the forum. and if you are referring to whatever I posted a few months back, sorry i'm not answerable for them..They were my views at THAT time....beliefs and thinking change over the time....what i didn't understand at that time, may be i do it now......I just remember 2 of my recent messages.....One was regarding Trijata being too fast in giving every confidential news to Sita.......another one was regarding the "shivir"..In both I was trying to point out that the scriptwriters were trying to take liberties...
Someone on this forum said that some ppl. from Mahabharat forum are trying to spoil the peaceful atmosphere of this forum....u can check the Mahabharat forum..therez a difference between debates, arguments and mud slinging..at least they are tolerant enough to listen to what others have to say...and since the show was packaged that way, the criticism was sure to follow.....everything is settled now in MB forum..
Yes I created the topic of Sita being too aggressive at some point of time..but didn't many members agreed with it and one of them created a similar topic in which again, many members were of the same view? We were not referring to the "real Sita" or "Debina"..We were referring to Sagar's portrayl of Sita in the serial...n I created the message first, and then someone else did..I didn't create a similar topic there to create confusion.
@Sita11 - My dear friend, I don't know you and I don't know when and how I offended you so much. but if therez something which hurted you then even I'm sorry. the only thing i wanna say is that you are a coolbie but you guessed it wrong, being a coolbie, that I and Omshanti are friends..... I'm a simple housewife, i have a family to look after..i can't take out so much time for debates and fights.....I have come out of that age ...I'm open to all kinds of views , i wanna gain knowledge, that's why i visit IF...I am an ardent Krishna bhakt still I was not that much offended by DV's message..I replied to her cooly and the matter ended right there...i believe in this theory "to each his own"
@DV - plz don't mind all these discussion..it's not your fault..
I'm happy through these serials Ramayan and Jai Shri Krishna , the younger generation are getting aware of our religion and faith. However they will have lots of queries in their minds ...and if somebody has more knowledge about the epics and puranas, it's a very good thing bec. they can enlighten others on that topic....We have to be tolerant enuf and get ready for all kinds of replies...
That's what I feel. In the end, I wanna make this clear that I have absolutely nothing against Ramayan or it's characters or the forum or it's members...Before getting angry plz for a few seconds try to analyze what the other person is trying to say..
Regards
Charu
Edited by luv_khwaish - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: godisone

Hey everyone, let's be at peace, alright? What's been said has been said, but we all are God's devotees. That's what matters. So let's get back to the original quesiton. Does anyone know specifically what happened to Mandodari when Ravan died?

I really want to know, not to be disrespectful towards her or anything, like in the Sugriva Post.

I also HEARD that she & Sulochana , after the death of their husbands got sati.. they ended their lives..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Akhl.

Thanks for mentioning abt my points. I want to add one more thing, it is relevant to this topic, and abt that other sugreev post, and abt draupadi , krishna, and many others.

Whether there are marriages, or not. but it doesn't mean, that everything is abt physical relationships only. and it makes someone characterless bcoz of that.

We think, abt marriage, the way ppl do now. but it was different in tht era, and different for these ppl.

I heard abt mandodari n vibheesana marriage. (it might be right or wrong). ok wrong, but even if it was there. then it doesn't mean that, they felt for each other and got married in the normal sense. Maybe she just remained queen, and vibheesana became king.
Abt Mandodari i don't know the truth. but even if she married again or not. it doesn't affect my respect for her. She was always scolding Ravana, i like her for that. she is very brave. :-)

but whenever there is a mention abt anyone's marriage, abt many wives. please don't consider that as just of the physical relationships, and don't connect that to someone's character. Becoz at that time, there used to be many other reasons for marriages. Sometimes maybe it is just a name of a relationship, without having children together.

And if once ppl will see things in this respect, then there will not be so many questions abt others' characters.

i don't want to use those words, but it will clear.
if we found, A married B n C that time, doesn't mean, that we start saying, A had sex with B. what type of person A was. bcoz marriage word is different for us. But it had other meaning for those kings n queens,
Edited by Huduga - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

@godisone & Omshanti111, Thanks so much for understanding my viewpoint . We don't know each other personally or through PM's or even in the forums but still you people understood my stand, thanks so much for that..

@Coolpurvi - I really respect your views because you know more about Ramayan than i guess, anyone else on this forum. Your arguments always impressed me and many times, they were an eyeopener for me. I'm referring to the topic of Agnipareeksha , Bali's death, Sita's exile and Laxman's exile...BUT I didn't know (as i wrote in my prev. post to sita11 that i'm not as regular in the forum) , I was unaware WHERE I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know that no new topics must be created for such petty topics like bloopers etc... I am a God fearing person & for me, God is not Ram or Krishna or any other..He is GOD..and i believe if we could embibe 0.001% of those values and their teachings withing us, our lives will be more meaningfull and we'll achieve the objectives of our lives...
And the first and foremost thing we must do is to respect the creations of God..I heard from somebody that if you consider everything in this world a part of you, you will love them like you love yourself ..and there will be peace and love all over...The reason I'm saying all this is that if we are not tolerant & patient towards the views of fellow members on this forum, the forum will become a battleground....Ramayan , Mahabharata and JSK forums must be the best forums bec. we are such firm believers in God ...Then why so much attitude, so much arrogance by some members? What happened in this post was an insult not a disagreement.,.I cant understand how and why i'm answerable for ALL those who disagree. or I don't know..when they or I were trying to create confusions or chaos intentionally.
@ Rajnish - my dear, my message which you posted , I read it and re-read it many times but I have no clue where I've said anything against Ramayan ..I was trying to say about the forum. and if you are referring to whatever I posted a few months back, sorry i'm not answerable for them..They were my views at THAT time....beliefs and thinking change over the time....what i didn't understand at that time, may be i do it now......I just remember 2 of my recent messages.....One was regarding Trijata being too fast in giving every confidential news to Sita.......another one was regarding the "shivir"..In both I was trying to point out that the scriptwriters were trying to take liberties...
Someone on this forum said that some ppl. from Mahabharat forum are trying to spoil the peaceful atmosphere of this forum....u can check the Mahabharat forum..therez a difference between debates, arguments and mud slinging..at least they are tolerant enough to listen to what others have to say...and since the show was packaged that way, the criticism was sure to follow.....everything is settled now in MB forum..
Yes I created the topic of Sita being too aggressive at some point of time..but didn't many members agreed with it and one of them created a similar topic in which again, many members were of the same view? We were not referring to the "real Sita" or "Debina"..We were referring to Sagar's portrayl of Sita in the serial...n I created the message first, and then someone else did..I didn't create a similar topic there to create confusion.
@Sita11 - My dear friend, I don't know you and I don't know when and how I offended you so much. but if therez something which hurted you then even I'm sorry. the only thing i wanna say is that you are a coolbie but you guessed it wrong, being a coolbie, that I and Omshanti are friends..... I'm a simple housewife, i have a family to look after..i can't take out so much time for debates and fights.....I have come out of that age ...I'm open to all kinds of views , i wanna gain knowledge, that's why i visit IF...I am an ardent Krishna bhakt still I was not that much offended by DV's message..I replied to her cooly and the matter ended right there...i believe in this theory "to each his own"
@DV - plz don't mind all these discussion..it's not your fault..
I'm happy through these serials Ramayan and Jai Shri Krishna , the younger generation are getting aware of our religion and faith. However they will have lots of queries in their minds ...and if somebody has more knowledge about the epics and puranas, it's a very good thing bec. they can enlighten others on that topic....We have to be tolerant enuf and get ready for all kinds of replies...
That's what I feel. In the end, I wanna make this clear that I have absolutely nothing against Ramayan or it's characters or the forum or it's members...Before getting angry plz for a few seconds try to analyze what the other person is trying to say..
Regards
Charu

Dear Charu,
Thank you for bringing the topic back on track.
I guess one cannot say this is right and that is wrong concerning what happened to Mandodari, because the opinions vary greatly. I guess for these kinds of questions, we have to depend on what we read or saw, because all the different kinds of Ramayan out there have a different version on Mandodari's story, but anyway, thanks for the post!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I too agree wid sita di dat mandodri did not marry vibhishan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I too want to know dat what happened to mandodri after ravan died !!!

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