A Few Corrections - Page 5

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

And all i said was Mandodari and Ravan had a relationship of respect and that Laxman and Sita were not in a hut but a cave when the Khara Dushana battle happened . Dunno what was so controversial about this observations but it sure did not go down well with many .

Originally posted by: nneeiill

@kalapi and koolsadhu

all we r saying that u cannot say PH is showing rubbish just coz it does not matches with the version of ramayan u read or ur beliefs...and the replies to TM initially were very polite..i dont find it offensive or questioning the knowledge of TM..everyone explained why they cant relate to TM's post but i guess TM dint expected that and started using harsh words just to prove their point..

since the show began..no one has accepted anything about the show..so all r used to it..as i said..we have realised that the incidents shown are mentioned in one or the other versions so how can one say confidently PH is wrong and offer corrections unless u r very sure abt it.


and just coz we presented our viewpoint...you ASSUMED we have blind acceptance ?? Is that not wrong...we r not blind followers of this show and nor r we RAVAN haters as u had assumed again...infact here everyone was open abt RAVAN. But ramayan cannot show all that aspect..

If I may, it seems members are very defensive about the PH, it makes me curious why??

but anyway, no one can say anything with confidence dear, but it doesn't mean that one has to accept everything blindly either (as you yourselves said so eloquently in the subsequent para). So, why is it when some members questions some depictions in the show, it then become unacceptable - or said no big deal?? Aren't we allowed the same freedom and TM used her/his freedom to post - it might have been a big deal to the TM...I don't see it wrong to forward a different POV either...to me, a fruitful discussion only happens when members are conducive to different POV and discuss without trying to stop the other person's POV...

Another point to note, many members might have read many versions of RAmayana, then again there are members who haven't read any...why not allow ppl coming with what they have read and their perception of the story to share their view...I actual did find it lacking and the effort was more to stop the TM by asking to quote sources...that aren't nice either, since the poster requesting those weren't referring to his/her sources either. Plus, quoting a Wikipedia, isn't a valid reference for many...

Originally posted by: Kalapi

If I may, it seems members are very defensive about the PH, it makes me curious why??

but anyway, no one can say anything with confidence dear, but it doesn't mean that one has to accept everything blindly either (as you yourselves said so eloquently in the subsequent para). So, why is it when some members questions some depictions in the show, it then become unacceptable - or said no big deal?? Aren't we allowed the same freedom and TM used her/his freedom to post - it might have been a big deal to the TM...I don't see it wrong to forward a different POV either...to me, a fruitful discussion only happens when members are conducive to different POV and discuss without trying to stop the other person's POV...

Another point to note, many members might have read many versions of RAmayana, then again there are members who haven't read any...why not allow ppl coming with what they have read and their perception of the story to share their view...I actual did find it lacking and the effort was more to stop the TM by asking to quote sources...that aren't nice either, since the poster requesting those weren't referring to his/her sources either. Plus, quoting a Wikipedia, isn't a valid reference for many...

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I agree neil . But i will tell u what i read ...that egged on by Narad , Ravan mastered the nava grahas and daily stepped on them before ascending his throne . Now Shani has a special place in the nava grahas so he was the only one he kept locked up in the basement of his palace . He was kept in a windowless room and hung upside down ...he was this way till Hanuman freed him . The moment he was freed he looked at Lanka with his vakra drushti . Lanka then had bad days . However his vakra drushti did not affect Hanuman who had achieved self realisation by surrending to his guru ...Ram's feet . So impressed and grateful for his freedom Shani gave him a boon . That whoever worships Hanuman will be free of all troubles in sade saati period . To this day pundits advise those having sade saati to say Hanuman chalisa , stotras etc .

I may be wrong but this is what i know . There may be other versions of course .

When King Ravana succeeded in getting the control over all the nine planets, he installed them face downward on the nine steps that led to his throne. Each morning, he would step on their back to ascend his throne, causing insult and anguish to them. One day the sage Narada came to Ravana, and upon seeing the state of the nine planets asked Shani, how as the mightiest and the most terrible of the planets, he can bear this insult? Shani replied that because he is laying face downward he is helpless, if only he can cast his gaze on Ravana, matters would change. After Narada was shown around the magnificent palace of Ravana the proud king wanted his opinion. The wise sage replied that everything was excellent at the palace of Ravana, except for one. That was, how can Ravana get the pleasure of subduing the nine planets when they are lying face downward? It is better if they were to lay face upward so that when Ravana stepped over their chests, he could get the pleasure of seeing their discomfort on their faces. This suggestion appealed to the mighty king and he quickly ordered his staff to turn the nine planets around on their backs. As soon as that was done, Shani's gaze fell on Ravana andand ill fate of ravan began

Some versions also describe that Ravan realized his mistake of turning up Shani and so he sent Shani to prison after that