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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


Right - the part I described was a brief part - about a minute or so - b/w Rama deciding to go to Mithila on hearing that Sunaina was ill, and then arriving at the palace. On the road, the Maithilis turned their backs on them while they were on their way, and Rama & Lakshman understood


Aside from the stuff about the wife's side not having rights, these sort of scenes were creative licenses that were inserted, but I agree: showing something that was not known to be a part of the cultural profile of that era didn't do too much for it


Also, I thought I heard her name as Chandraprabha. (Anand Sagar's Ramayan changed it to Malavika)

The friends name is no where mentioned it's mostly a fictional character considering that Sita ji must have had a friend

About the issue I seriously doubt that RamLakshman visited Mithila after Sita Vanwaas.

About turning the back well Ram ji is a God and forget others even the current Mithila waasis wouldn't like being projected as someone who insulted Him

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Posted: 5 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

Which version had that Mithila ignoring Ram scene? Only that part edited or entire episode?


I hate it whenever anyone in any TV serial praises the lead couple comparing them like Ram-Sita jodi. Such scenes happening from years. It's disturbing to think our any favourite TV being like Ram-Sita pair that also in today's times. Kuch cheezon ko usi zamaane me rehne do instead of getting inspired from it.

The second part


This actually happens with me often. My husband sometimes teases me Saying that I am lucky that I have got a husband like SriRam, and immidiately I say I don't like one like him. I would want a husband like Mahadev Bhole Baba

And my husband would be like stop it you might say wrong things about God and

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

I hate it whenever anyone in any TV serial praises the lead couple comparing them like Ram-Sita jodi. Such scenes happening from years. It's disturbing to think our any favourite TV being like Ram-Sita pair that also in today's times. Kuch cheezon ko usi zamaane me rehne do instead of getting inspired from it.

For me it's the opposite.


Our TV couples don't deserve to be compared to a divine couple like Ram and Sita. 🥱 TV characters are heavily flawed, whereas Ram and Sita were Gods? There is no comparison lol.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

For me it's the opposite.


Our TV couples don't deserve to be compared to a divine couple like Ram and Sita. 🥱 TV characters are heavily flawed, whereas Ram and Sita were Gods? There is no comparison lol.

So if sending your pregnant wife to forest is fine and repeatedly asking to do DNA equivalent test then I have no words to argue lol. Ram-Sita may be divine par galti to galti hi hoti hai. I hope I am not called a naastik or whatever but I cannot blindly agree and follow everything when our Sanatan Dharma asks us to question and teach us that even Gods can do mistakes from which we can learn many things. Today's episode taught us one more thing that we should not always please people especially when it can cost our happiness.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

Which version had that Mithila ignoring Ram scene? Only that part edited or entire episode?


I hate it whenever anyone in any TV serial praises the lead couple comparing them like Ram-Sita jodi. Such scenes happening from years. It's disturbing to think our any favourite TV being like Ram-Sita pair that also in today's times. Kuch cheezon ko usi zamaane me rehne do instead of getting inspired from it.


Both versions did. In the original Ramanand Sagar version, when Rama & Lakshman enter Mithila, people turn their backs on him. Same happens in the Anand Sagar version - see below:


https://youtu.be/pb30uBZtAmI?t=21862


On YouTube though, I've not been able to find an upload that contains the same thing in the Ramanand Sagar serial

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

The friends name is no where mentioned it's mostly a fictional character considering that Sita ji must have had a friend

About the issue I seriously doubt that RamLakshman visited Mithila after Sita Vanwaas.

About turning the back well Ram ji is a God and forget others even the current Mithila waasis wouldn't like being projected as someone who insulted Him



You're right - all of this was fictional, w/ creative liberties taken by Sagar Arts in both instances. There is nothing in Valmiki to suggest that Rama visited Mithila after exiling Sita: that would have taken a lot of chutzpah, which the Sagars liked spinning as being 'mahaan'.


In fact, in Valmiki, there's no mention of Janaka in Uttar Kand: it's not even known whether he was still alive.


I was just comparing the serials, and the way they depicted Rama's imagined visit to Mithila

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

So if sending your pregnant wife to forest is fine and repeatedly asking to do DNA equivalent test then I have no words to argue lol. Ram-Sita may be divine par galti to galti hi hoti hai. I hope I am not called a naastik or whatever but I cannot blindly agree and follow everything when our Sanatan Dharma asks us to question and teach us that even Gods can do mistakes from which we can learn many things. Today's episode taught us one more thing that we should not always please people especially when it can cost our happiness.


If you take these characters to be humans, then yes they can do mistakes like other humans, but if you consider these characters as Gods, then we must also attempt to understand the divine play at hand, because that's just the thing. Gods and humans are not equal. Gods don't do mistakes. Making mistakes, having faults...these are all human qualities. These Gods took human forms in a time period that is very different from our own, with stringent rules on Dharma and karma. In some ways that time period was more progressive, but in other ways it was also regressive. Like any time period it had its positives and negatives, and God tried to teach humanity how to deal with society given the limitations.

When it comes to Uttar Kand, people should try to understand what is written in the epic and not blindly follow what's shown in movies and shows, which attempt to dramatize events to rile people up. Even if we look at Valmiki Ramayana, Rama doesn't blindly abandon Sita in the middle of the forests. He tells Lakshman to take Sita to Valmiki ashram where she'll be safe from public scrutiny. He did not abandon her. She was still the Queen of Ayodhya, but she was not safe in the palace due to how riled up the people of Ayodhya were getting. As King, his first duty was to make people calm again, and also to protect his pregnant wife. In VR, Rama knows Sita is in Valmiki's ashram, and most likely knows his sons were born there as the ashram was a part of Ayodhya, but none of this is ever shown in movies or shows as it wouldn't feed the drama quotient.


So yes, I don't believe in comparing current TV couples, who have affairs, murder, have evil moments, with Ram and Sita, who in the end of the day, never looked at another man or woman except each other. People would be lucky to have a husband or wife like Ram or Sita.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

The second part


This actually happens with me often. My husband sometimes teases me Saying that I am lucky that I have got a husband like SriRam, and immidiately I say I don't like one like him. I would want a husband like Mahadev Bhole Baba

And my husband would be like stop it you might say wrong things about God and



Actually, when I hear people describe a couple as a 'Rama-Sita jodi', one thing strikes me as odd: it's almost as bizarre as the 'ghar ka bedi Vibhishan'. If one is a parent or relative of the couple, the last thing one would wish for either is that their professional duties override their marital commitments to each other. That's precisely what happened in Rama's case: despite having no doubts about Sita's integrity, he did what he did b'cos in his judgement, it would be wrong to foist on subjects a queen they didn't respect. If one wanted a couple to have a 'Rama-Sita' like relationship, they'd also have to have a caveat that they don't want either the Rama or the Sita to have professional responsibilities that can undermine, and even potentially end the marriage. But nobody ever considers that in the equation.


It's just like when people accuse their 'black sheep' of being a Vibhishan, they're indirectly equating themselves to Ravan, which is pretty bizarre.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I don't get that God's can't do mistake. It's Hindu religion not other religions where God us always. Haven't we always been said that galti to bhagwan se bhi hoti hai to insaanon ka kya? Even if something can be God's play but for people it's only either right or mistake. It's not that I am bad-mouthing God or being atheist but I can't blindly follow and excuse everything to be always right even though it's from God because in our religion God too can do mistakes. Anyways don't understand how this talk reached here when the post was something else.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.



Actually, when I hear people describe a couple as a 'Rama-Sita jodi', one thing strikes me as odd: it's almost as bizarre as the 'ghar ka bedi Vibhishan'. If one is a parent or relative of the couple, the last thing one would wish for either is that their professional duties override their marital commitments to each other. That's precisely what happened in Rama's case: despite having no doubts about Sita's integrity, he did what he did b'cos in his judgement, it would be wrong to foist on subjects a queen they didn't respect. If one wanted a couple to have a 'Rama-Sita' like relationship, they'd also have to have a caveat that they don't want either the Rama or the Sita to have professional responsibilities that can undermine, and even potentially end the marriage. But nobody ever considers that in the equation.


It's just like when people accuse their 'black sheep' of being a Vibhishan, they're indirectly equating themselves to Ravan, which is pretty bizarre.


My issue is that when people think of Ram-Sita's relationship, they only focus and fixate on Uttar Kand. There was so much more to their relationship. What about their faith and loyalty to each other? Current generation can learn a lot about having such loyalty to one's wife or husband. What about their love? People take the Taj Mahal as a symbol of love, but what about the Ram Setu that Ram had constructed over the ocean just to reach his wife? Many humans in his position would have given up at that point and considered Sita a lost cause, but Ram crossed an entire ocean for her. What of Sita, who denied all of Ravan's luxuries when many women in today's generation divorce their husbands because they're not earning enough, not buying them enough jewelry and keeping them in style? During a period when multiple marriages were the norm, Ram vowed faithfulness to Sita and Sita only. Very rarely do we meet a man today whose head isn't turned by a pretty face. Can he be comparable to Ram?


There is so much more to Ram and Sita's relationship than her exile later on. If people can only fixate on that and forget everything else, then I guess I have nothing else to say, but personally, Ram and Sita are my ideals and if a normal human couple today is able to attain even 50% of that love and devotion, then they would be very happy together.


But I agree with you regarding that ridiculous phrase on Vibhishan. If someone is equating a "black sheep" with Vibs, then they're comparing themselves to Ravan, which speaks volumes. 😆

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