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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Perhaps no other faith glorifies the notion of love as Hinduism. Classical love legends from Hindu mythology and folklore of India are both passionate and sensuous in content and never fail to appeal to the romantic in us. These fables stretch our imagination, engage our emotions and, entertain us.

The Radha-Krishna amour is a love legend of all times. The allegorical love of Radha has found expression in some great Bengali poetical works of Govinda Das, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and Jayadeva the author of Geet Govinda. Krishna's youthful dalliances with the 'gopis' are interpreted as symbolic of the loving interplay between God and the human soul. Radha's utterly rapturous love for Krishna and their relationship is often interpreted as the quest for union with the divine. This kind of love is of the highest form of devotion in Vaishnavism.

Radha and Krishna grew up together and wanted to be together forever, but the world pulled them apart. He departed to safeguard the virtues of truth, and she waited for him. He vanquished his enemies, became the king, and came to be worshipped as a lord of the universe. She waited for him. He married Rukmini and Satyabhama, raised a family, fought many great wars, and she still waited. So great was Radha's love for Krishna!

One day the two most talked about lovers come together for a final single meeting. Suradasa in his Radha-Krishna lyrics relates the various amorous delights of the union of Radha and Krishna in this ceremonious 'Gandharva' form of their wedding in front of five hundred and sixty million people of Vraj and all the gods and goddesses of heaven. The sage Vyasa refers to this as the 'Rasa'.

The childhood meeting of Radha Krishna is much debated but the story goes something like this, when Yashodha ties Krishna to the pounding wood for his mischief, any other child would have wept for the mother to come and untie him but divine Krishna uproots the pounding stone with his strength and dragged it along with him as he went out. Two girls came that way and they noticed Krishna. The younger girl Lalita was his playmate. The older girl was about 12 years of age. He did not know who she was but he was just drawn to her. She was Radha.

A song by Sant Surdas --

Krishna looking at a mirror in his hand, asks Radha, ‘between the two of us, whose face is better?’ Radha, the devotee replies, ‘Don’t you see the obvious?! My face is like the full moon and yours is like the dark night (both compliments each other as the moon cannot be seen without the night sky and the night sky is so vacant without the moon!).’ She continues, ‘Your eyes are beautifully defined by black Kajal, while my eyes are pretty because your image reflects in my eyes. Also, you only lifted the Govardhan hill on your little fingernail, but I carry you, the lifter of Govardhan in my heart!’

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: RainFire125

Oh it's my pleasure too to write about them from the books :)

Will wait for treasure from u to be posted here...

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: RainFire125

As per padma purana ( as people already knew that Krishna was not an ordinary person and a God child) he did say to her parents that they got married in heaven. Here there was no indication of anything of her relationship with abhimanyu aka ayan. This purana does not have much details or stories like the other two puranas that you mentioned.

okay, thanks for sharing Gayatri ...😊

As per my knowledge Ayan or abhimanyu is more folklore n even that Ayan was not this much evil , he was more of the devotee of Goddess Ma Kali...

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Janaki, after a long time happy to see you in this thread.🤗

Hi Madhuri yes busy with kid n the weather makes me tired also....🤗

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: KrishnaSourav

okay, thanks for sharing Gayatri ...😊

As per my knowledge Ayan or abhimanyu is more folklore n even that Ayan was not this much evil , he was more of the devotee of Goddess Ma Kali...

Oh yes he was a very kind hearted soul and never troubled here at all. It was jatila who used to get a little pissed off on her devotion to kanha :) but even then she was also not evil. And using maya our kanha used to make all the husbands not even realize that their wives are missing and have actually come to meet him. Ha ha ha

When I picture this scene I get such a smile on my face. Whole night he enjoys with his Radhe and others and next day morning no one realizes they are missing for night after night. That was his maya :)

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Posted: 6 years ago

There was a beautiful narration Srimad Bhagavatam regarding Krishna playing flute on a full moon night and how all the Gopis allured to that tune and how they rushed to the Brindavan floral gardens to search for Krishna to play and dance with Him!---😊

chapter twenty-one contains 20 verses, describing how Kṛiṣṇa entered the forest of Vṛndāvan in the autumn, playing his flute, and how He attracted the gopīs, who were singing His glories. the twenty-second Chapter contains 38 verses, describing how the gopīs prayed to the goddess Kātyāyanī to obtain Kṛishṇa as their husband and how Kṛiṣhṇa later stole the garments of the gopīs while the gopīs were bathing in theYamunā. The Twenty-third Chapter contains 52 verses, describing how the cowherd boys, being very hungry, followed Kṛiṣhṇa's directions by begging some food for Him and themselves from brāhmaṇas engaged in performing yajñas. The brāhmaṇas refused to give food to Kṛiṣhṇa and Balarāma, although the boys begged for it, the wives of the brāhmaṇas agreed, and therefore Kṛiṣhṇa bestowed His mercy upon them.

Lord Kṛiṣhṇa saw the unbroken disk of the full moon glowing with the red effulgence of newly applied vermilion as if it were the face of the goddess of fortune. He also saw the lotuses opening in response to the moon's presence and the forest gently illumined by its rays. Thus the Lord began to play sweetly on His flute, attracting the minds of the beautiful-eyed gopīs.

"My dear friend my Madhava's flute.... it appears that you have been born of a very good family, for your residence is in the hands of Śrī Kṛishṇa. By birth you are simple and are not at all crooked. Why then have you taken initiation into this dangerous mantra that enchants the assembled gopīs?" This verse (Vidagdha-mādhava 5.17) is spoken by Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī.

Some of the gopīs were milking cows when they heard Kṛiṣhṇa's flute. They stopped milking and went off to meet Him. Some left milk churning and others left food cooking on the fire.

When one gopī perfectly imitated how Kṛiṣhṇa would call the cows who had wandered far away, how He would play His flute and how He would engage in various sports,the others congratulated her with exclamations of "Well done! Well done!"

The gopīs said: When Mukunda plays the flute He has placed to His lips, stopping its holes with His tender fingers, He rests His left cheek on His left arm and makes His eyebrows dance. At that time the demigoddesses traveling in the sky with their husbands, the Siddhas, become amazed. As those ladies listen, they are embarrassed to find their minds yielding to the pursuit of lusty desires, and in their distress, they are unaware that the belts of their garments are loosening!!

My dear gopī, sometimes Mukunda imitates the appearance of a forest God by decorating Himself with leaves, peacock feathers and colored minerals. Then, in the company of Balarāma and the cowherd boys, He plays His flute to call the cows. At that time the rivers stop flowing, their water stunned by the ecstasy they feel as they eagerly wait for the wind to bring them the dust of His lotus feet. But like us, the rivers are not very pious, and thus they merely wait with their arms trembling out of love!

As Kṛiṣhṇa strolls through Vraja with His lotus-petal-like feet, marking the ground with the distinctive emblems of the flag, thunderbolt, lotus and elephant goad, He relieves the distress the ground feels from the cows' hooves. He plays His renowned flute, His body moves with the grace of an elephant. Thus we gopīs, who become agitated by Cupid when Kṛiṣhṇa playfully glances at us, stand as still as trees, unaware that our hair and garments are slackening.

Friends, there are many beautiful verses in SB describing the Raas Leela and the past times of Krishna and Gopikas there in the Brindavan! Will share those again.

Edited by Viswasruti - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: RainFire125

Oh yes he was a very kind hearted soul and never troubled here at all. It was jatila who used to get a little pissed off on her devotion to kanha :) but even then she was also not evil. And using maya our kanha used to make all the husbands not even realize that their wives are missing and have actually come to meet him. Ha ha ha

When I picture this scene I get such a smile on my face. Whole night he enjoys with his Radhe and others and next day morning no one realizes they are missing for night after night. That was his maya :)

So cute Gayatri 😊... wanted to see such a smile on your face again,🤗 for that, posted about a few more quivers of Gopis for meeting their Krishna in a hurry to listen to his enchanting flute Ragas!
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

So cute Gayatri 😊... wanted to see such a smile on your face again,🤗 for that, posted about a few more quivers of Gopis for meeting their Krishna in a hurry to listen to his enchanting flute Ragas!

Thank u so much M. 🤗

The way the story might turn out in the show is depressing again and I just am back to reading. Hence this brings much more peace as ofcourse the writers perspective is not something that is in my control as far as the show is concerned.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: RainFire125

Thank u so much M. 🤗

The way the story might turn out in the show is depressing again and I just am back to reading. Hence this brings much more peace as ofcourse the writers perspective is not something that is in my control as far as the show is concerned.

I can understand your sentiments Gayatri.🤗. They spoiled the plot as well as the characters and left a skeleton of love there between Radha and Krishna. Agree with you , reading gives us peace of mind rather than watching this serial and sulking.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Some cute stories with regards to Shri Krishna's pastimes in Vrndavana

Once Krishna was meeting with Srimati Radharani in the forest close to Yavat. And Kutila and Jatila told Abhimanyu, “We have heard that Krishna is in the forest with Radharani. You think that She is very chaste but this is what we have been told. You should go immediately and see for yourself.” So he came running into the forest and Srimati Radharani saw that he was coming and She became very much afraid. Where were they going to go? Krishna said “Do not worry I will protect You. You just stand as You are standing.” She was in the middle of offering something to Krishna. He said “You just stay just as You are.” So then Sriimati Radharani saw Abhimanyu coming, he came right in front of them, he looked at them. Then he offered his prostrated obeisances. Srimati Radharani turned around and She saw that Krishna had assumed the form of Goddess “Kali”. So Abhimanyu was thinking that Radharani is worshipping a deity of “Kali” to help Her to better please Her husband and he was very happy. So at this place in Yavat, there is a small temple of Kali and the deity is called Kali-Krishna in rememberance of this pastime. In this way the excitement in the meetings and separation of Radha and Krishna would increase millions of times in the Parakiya Rasa.

On one occasion Abhimanyu went to the market to buy some cows. He selected nice cows and in the afternoon he came back to take some coins to purchase the cows. Meanwhile by His arrangements, Krishna spread a rumor in Yavat that “Krishna is coming in the disguise of Abhimanyu to see Shrimati Radharani.” When Jatila and Kutila heard this they stood at the gateway of the village with sticks. They were determined that Krishna was not even going to have a moments glance upon Shrimati Radharani. So Abhimanyu came not expecting anything. As soon as Abhimanyu arrived, Jatila, Kutila started screaming at him “Get out of here, we know that who you are, we know that you are Krishna in disguise. Get away from here or we will beat you with these sticks. Get out, get out, get out!” As they were saying the whole village of Javat was in an uproar, “Get out of here, Get out of here.” Abhimanyu didn’t know what in the world was happening. So he tried to explain “I just came back to get some money for the cows to buy.” They said “Get out, get out we know your tricks. We know your cunningness Krishna, get out of here now.” So he ran away.

Meanwhile from another direction Lord Shri Krishna came perfectly disguised as Abhimanyu. When Jatila and Kutila saw Him their hearts were overwhelmed with parental affection. They embraced Krishna. They said, “Oh! Abhimanyu we are so happy to see you. You know? Krishna just came and He was disguised as you, but we drove Him out of this village. Now Radharani is waiting for you.” Krishna said “It is an auspicious day for Radharani to perform the Puja to goddess Mangaldevi. She should fast today and She should go to the temple and She should worship throughout the day and throughout the night.” So mother said, “All right that is very good. Whatever pleases you my son.” So she sent Shrimati Radharani to the Mangaldevi temple to do Her prayers throughout the day and the night. When She arrived at that temple, Lalita, Vishaka the Gopis and Krishna appeared there to the delight of Shri Radhika and they performed Rasa Leela throughout the night.

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