Dejavu ... 18.5.2015 (GIFs added) - Page 7

Originally posted by: sageflower7

SheAish... I am no one. Please don't place too much importance on my being offended.

Really I am not worth that much of your time.

Originally posted by: sageflower7

^^^ Juhi...

Nice succinct and clear explanation. Thanks for that.

Jannat not questioning about her lost memories always rankled with me. I feel impatient and annoyed that she doesn't ask herself or Shaad anything.

Yet, within hours of Aahil finding her, he asked very pressing questions, questions she should have asked herself for months before. and he got rewarded by a fainting spell and reprimanded by Shaad.

Jannat never asked herself " Why is this man who claims to be my husband marrying another woman and hiding me in the room?" What made her run out super dramatically and stop the wedding like that? *grumbles*

Why is it that no one else is Shaad's family, in the name of bonding with her, asked her any questions about her family and asking to meet with them since she is now family??

Why didn't Sanam insist that Shaad now take her to see her family and seek blessings for their shotgun marriage?

WHy did Shaad have to lie SO Much !!

Yet, the dialogues make Shaad look justified, because he talks like an upright honorable man.

This is the problem right?

I agree somewhat that together with talking covertly with Sanam in Shaad's absence, the writers could have just added a monologue for Aahil, questioning Shaad's motives.

but they seem to have made the two men BFFs from the few hours talking in Dharamsala.😕

But Aahil is trying to get Sanam back. Covertly.

I think if Shaad were to contend , he would assert his right as lawfully wedded husband in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by: sageflower7

Agreed Nafs.

They are telling their story their way regardless of what we think. they will change and do complete opposite things when they feel like too.

Btw did you notice, after that knock on the head, Jannat's English has improved a great deal? *QHlogic*

Originally posted by: SheAish

Sage thanks for clearing things up for me with regard to us...I was quite horrified that I offended you too much since I respect you are lot.

And KK, Juhi, Michy and Aiswariy?, thanks for replying to my comment and comments by others meant for me. My internet is again acting up late at nights as my ISP has informed me they are doing some upgrading and stuff so have not been able to answer to posts for the last 3 days after 11pm or so...

My post here was actually meant more as a kind of conclusive summary of how I see Shaad as viewed by this forum among Sahilians. I wasn't trying to be contentious here since me and others who think like me with regards to this have been doing the contending for the last 2 months or so on numerous occasions...

But nevertheless thanks for stepping in to back me up. Some issues I find hard to let go specially about things I feel deeply about...But Nafs is right...

Cvs won't change a thing just because we are against it...

And I have realized it back then which is why I stopped watching the show and left the forum too..

But I was kind of betting on that KV would not allow his character to be butchered again even if the cvs were not willing to acknowledge Shaads actions towards Jannat.

I thought by the time Sahil is brought back to the same frame they would have found a way to go around it like make Ahil not sure that this is Sanam and not have him know that this girl has memory loss OR Shaad would have let Sanam know the truth since he wants to make an honest relationship with her and start afresh.

Maybe those rumors about VT leaving the show is true which is why KV is putting up with his inconsistent character too for the time being...

Anyways, Nafs is right, I'll let those of you guys who are able to enjoy what is on offer with regards to Sahil enjoy without us being a thorn your side...😛😆

Lets see where the story is after another week or so.

Originally posted by: sageflower7

Sorry if I appeared judgemental earlier.

But who was it who painted him as white and pure?

I don't think Shaad fans' gushing should count. As far as I know, the people we often discuss with have never white washed him...

Originally posted by: sageflower7

Thanks !! Have missed you for quite some time!😳 hope you've been well...

Yeah.. we're getting so much SaHil and we should be happy.

i know Aahil has legal right to take her away but it's more pleasant when she comes back to him herself.

I remember him lamenting after his Ammi died. On whether he was worthy of Sanam and whether he could ever make it up to her. Now's his test.

"I know how to make you remember me... "

those words still ring in my ear... he's going to reveal her identity to her real soon looks, like (going by the promo) .. and Sanam2 will complicate things.

But... Sanam has seen Sanam2 at the airport and witnessed their argumentative vibes. Hopefully she's not too naive.

What am I saying. She's more naive now than ever

I always hoped that Lateef would help SaHil out. Maybe we'll get that this time.

Originally posted by: TheImbecile

Aww, yes, just didn't want to get caught up passionate character arguments. That's all good and fine, but it's just tiresome for me. Cheers to all who do what they do though, it's been effective!

I agree, I don't want the expression of legality through possession to be expressed. It would dampen the spirit of Aahil getting his love back. Agree - that whole process of him reminding her is more beautiful and complication enough to watch.

Hmm she might be initially, and I think I read somewhere she would try to help S2 who will beg her to help her as Aahil treats her badly? Well I still think that's fine because in the process of helping she will probably fall in love with Aahil all over again through finding out the real story/dynamic of S2 and Aahil's story that will make her feel even more attracted.

Well one can always hope Lateef plays a more active role, wouldn't that be nice?

In any case, at least the story that we have been waiting for has finally begun!

Maybe you exaggerated about the fight between Shaad and Aahil, but what you said along with it makes it clear you know how Aahil should view Shaad if he knows this woman is Sanam. And Aahildoes know this is Sanam. Not only that, Aahil even knows all about the the memory loss timeline.

So what is Aahil doing? Acting as if he's some lover trying to win back his long lost love? Why is he not shown reacting or at least even thinking anything of Shaad? This is the man Aahil should deem a sociopath and one who has been conning, deceiving Sanam and even violating Sanam. And on top of it, we see Shaad as part of this freak triangle with his actions referred to as if they are just some small matter. Sanam is being LIED to that she's Shaad's wife and LIVING with him as his WIFE. This lie is either not acknowledged, or acknowledged in a light way for the purpose of Aahil's determination of getting back Sanam, and for the purpose of Shaad's monologues that he wants to change this relationship into a real one though it started with a lie (as if this lie is a small matter).

Aahil is not a man who just came across his long lost love who moved on after having some amnesia. He is not some man who had some face change or got transported into another body and is trying to win back his love. But this is how how the scenes are being portrayed between the three, and even Aahil-Sanam. As if Sanam had moved on and for some reason cannot recognize Aahil, her true love who has come back.

This is not about being territorial. It is about his lack of reaction to the fact that Sanam's held captive essentially and violated. Sanam is not with this man out of her own choice. And Aahil KNOWS this. Maybe you exaggerated about the fight between Shaad and Aahil, but what you said along with it makes it clear you know how Aahil should view Shaad if he knows this woman is Sanam. And Aahildoes know this is Sanam. Not only that, Aahil even knows all about the the memory loss timeline.

So what is Aahil doing? Acting as if he's some lover trying to win back his long lost love? Why is he not shown reacting or at least even thinking anything of Shaad? This is the man Aahil should deem a sociopath and one who has been conning, deceiving Sanam and even violating Sanam. And on top of it, we see Shaad as part of this freak triangle with his actions referred to as if they are just some small matter. Sanam is being LIED to that she's Shaad's wife and LIVING with him as his WIFE. This lie is either not acknowledged, or acknowledged in a light way for the purpose of Aahil's determination of getting back Sanam, and for the purpose of Shaad's monologues that he wants to change this relationship into a real one though it started with a lie (as if this lie is a small matter).

Aahil is not a man who just came across his long lost love who moved on after having some amnesia. He is not some man who had some face change or got transported into another body and is trying to win back his love. But this is how how the scenes are being portrayed between the three, and even Aahil-Sanam. As if Sanam had moved on and for some reason cannot recognize Aahil, her true love who has come back.

This is not about being territorial. It is about his lack of reaction to the fact that Sanam's held captive essentially and violated. Sanam is not with this man out of her own choice. And Aahil KNOWS this.

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Originally posted by: JShukla

I think she means the narrative Sagey. For the negatives, greys or whatever characters, the narrative, meaning how the other characters view them is always open.

And yes it is enjoyable to watch the negative ones. I too enjoy them. its good to watch them, with their negative traits at display and acknowledged by the writers and the other characters. Its good to watch their downfall too or if they improve, they are even better and a delight to watch.

Its like the writer telling us- hey this guy is bad. He is wrong and will be brought to task coz of his actions.

Aahil was a jerk earlier and we all including his fans, Sanam and the narrative called out on it.

Can you say the same about Shad? No ONE... has acknowledged his crimes. And I can debate to the end of earth if what he is doing is a crime or not.

Now I understand SA and would want what she wants, but I'll settle for less. Atleast make Aahil Acknowledge his wrongs in his monologue. Atleast make him put a question mark on Shad? Why is that denied.

And just like Shad's fan gushing about him don't count, similarly us non-fans berating him does not count. The writer, narrative, the characters need to do their job in this case.

Sorry, if I was not very coherent. I had similar views with regards to Seher not being brought to task by narrative, Aahil, Sanam, Rehan...etc, after her Aaher stint.

I think most of us are ranting because he will not be called out for what he is at all in the story . A very irresponsible way of story telling. Almost like the writer wants to say, hey he didn't get the girl. Sorry but that isn't enough. He needs to face public humiliation, be shamed or court marshaled for his actions.

but most importantly, Aahil needs to display concern for the vulnerable situation his family member is in. Why does he not dwell on the fact that this guy could have been brainwashing her, probably molesting her.

Also for Sanam to never question anything with regards to their marriage, they might even be sleeping together.. though that is not my foremost worry.