Pehla Pyar- Rehaan Vs Shaad- Can you compare love? - Page 10

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Mic,

They tried to make Jannat LIGHT and FLUFFY...because the beginning of the new season had too much negativity.

Ahil's life was a mess...so they wanted it to be a cute story of a Major who fell for his beautiful subject...but it FELL FLAT. I can assure U no one would have related to Jannat or Shaad, except for the fans who were desperate to see Sanam with someone else for various reasons. (And those are people who denied Sanam her 'My Choice'. Sanam chose Ahil at the end of Season 2, in spite of the betrayals..who are we to question her choices? 😉The moment we start questioning the FL's choices in a Gul show..U have lost connect with the show. This is just BTW and my sadness at the way the lead couple was thrashed by the forum and not to point fingers at anyone.)

That did get us forum readers riled up for sure...but if U R a casual viewer who related to Sahil...I think that category'd react to an extent too...Like the Hook scene would have been the last straw..., but the large majority can take it better than US.

They couldn't make Jannat suspicious of Shaad...Because that'd make Shad too negative..They don't want that. So they made it look like circumstances AIDED him..egged him on..TEMPTED HIM...He just went along...where he should have kept a distance.

This is where I wonder if anyone has understood what I have been trying to say.😳 At times people think I am trying to find some goodness in Shaad..I accept that he is not dark.He is more of a white...but he is VERY VERY wrong here.

Now, hopefully what I write makes sense to U and makes the picture clearer to U...

As wrong as a third person coming in between a married and committed couple...declaring it is HIS CHOICE that he fell in love with the wife...and IF the wife were to have some reciprocation in some small way...

ADULTERY.

TEMPTATION.

Where they did well was to actually take the CHOICE OUT OF SANAM. It is not in her hands...she just believed a story she was told. (Loved how Mandy beautifully explained that.👏)

Where they failed was in the execution of the whole track...Right from that weak and dumb Phoophi to SK revealed to viewers too soon...and finally rushing in with the development of Shaad's feelings. Why did we relate to Haider (I had the same comparison.) Because we knew his motives ..We did not agree with his methods, but connected to his emotions...BECAUSE...That was where the story started...The Doll Factory Fire...That is the story we had been told about for months...and we absolutely sympathised with Zoya and anyone who wanted revenge for her sake.

They should have developed Shaad over months for viewers to connect to him...Instead we got a half baked story...and to be frank, I was imagining Mohit or someone else doing this role.

Back to ADULTERY and TEMPTATION.

If I ask U if U can hear MITWAA (not the Asya one)...Would U be able to understand what I am saying?

Can you hear Mitwaa?😊...(I mean..far far away...probably weeks later.😳)

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Micshy, that's why I kept saying portrayal and execution is not fitting to the story or subject matter.

If you want to show a love story in such a situation, it doesn't work unless you acknowledge and portray the situation as it is. You need the characters to act accordingly to the situation. But here no such thing is happening. Neither is the situation acknowledged and portrayed as what it is, nor is the character (Shaad) behaving according to the situation. Only explanation for this is that Shaad is delusional and has bought into his own imaginary world to a large extent. But even then, that needs to be shown and portrayed--which they do not do.

Yes KK that we all agree upon, While i at one end admire soup fr trying to think logic n reason in this messed up story, at the other end i hv myself given up on it, honestly i dont havr that much energy,,,,, these serials are the escape mechanism , n if we get more frustration in the escapism than reality then wjats the point of escapism, suxh a badly told twisted plot is too much fr my nerves so i hv given up on it 😕

And as I said, if it works for a single woman, it will just be just as valid for a married woman. She could easily decide to end her first marriage and choose the second relationship, just as the single woman would choose the first.

Also, what Shaad is doing is also criminal and this is also not acknowledged or addressed. When it is going to be addressed, it will be other things which take precedence and not his act of keeping the woman essentially captive.

Yes KK , its wrong fr both, but as a story teller, as a viewer the one with married woman would come across as an Extra marital affair, no matter how wid u sugar ciat it, its a dangerous territory , with the husband who loved his wife so muxh, still the wife went away with another man, its a dangerous territory n requires quite maturity n sensitivity to write such story...

As far as fr a single girl , u know thats why i hv said, a character should hv been introduced as a grey shaded or a delusional character... It should hv been established since the beginning , if the guy himself acknowledged n then over the course if the story changed/remained same n the girl fell fr him, n leaving it on the girl, would she want to chose a "bad guy" fr him or not...

U r getting my point , the gravity of the situation fr a single girl would not be that much ... But fr an already married n in love woman it means different, but that doesnot make the guy's actions less questionable, hes wrong both ways. N THAT SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED

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Jannat feeling her husband in Shaad, yes they showed that in the beginning, but not anymore. There is no link to S2 or Aahil, SaHil in the Pak track right now, hasn't been for a while. Only "Jannat being Indian" is it...but that is not even connected to S2 or Aahil, really.

Only link to SaHil right now comes from Aahil not "Jannat."

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Soup, they cannot go the route you are saying with Shaad the wishy-washy character he is portrayed as now, with no clear indication or set stance on him being negative, grey or mentally imbalanced. It will not work.

Agree with this KK, thetly wont go this route,although they love the forbidden love concept, but dont think they will take that path ...

Originally posted by: micshy

Soup, that is the thing i dont understand, why did they have to make Jannat Light n fluffy, and ok if they had to make her light n fluffy , did they have to make her so irritatingly clingy n OTT too, see a cute story could hv been done in certain ways too, here the story already had a baggage with it, so it could hv been made lighter but they made it in a way that it looked like they are making fun of the love they sold fr a complete season

See when i said that they could hv made her suspicious of Shaad , i meant that she could hv thought to herself or questioned to herself as why does he not look like familiar, why does it feel like she is meeting him fr the first time,

I did not mind if they grew comfortable with each other over a period of time but the way she hugged him instantly n then was so clingy to him, trust me that made this story completely unrelatable. ...

I m now slowly getting it what u were trying to say...

U are trying to say KANK wala "mitwaa" right ??? But soup i dont want to hear that "mitwaa" 😆

But if a mitwa plays fr Aahil n Sanam yes im game fr it, how twisted it looks fr them, but i will love to hear mitwaa for them, cz technically its not EMA u know 😆

So basically ur saying "choice" will come to Sanam's hands when she will meet right, thats when mitwaa will play ???

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Mic,

Your reply to KK.

What won't work?😕

All I am asking for is Mitwa to be sung to Jannat...😳 She is the one in a marital relationship...More than anything I wonder if they'd be brave enough to do that...

But I try to see the story from the endpoint. The end point is Sahil...and I don't see any other reason for why the characters are written like this. There are layers to Jannat here...And like I once said..Unless we can forget Sanam ...and believe that she died in River Chenab, we'll not be able to connect with her.

We do not know. Will Ahil recognise Jannat as Sanam, or will he be fooled by the Major too?- If so, we have a love story from Ahil and Jannat...But Ahil will resist this humshakal..and she will get more n more curious as to why this man is being rude to her. And by the time she realises her feelings, it'll be too late...She'd be too far into Ahil...

And then Jannat is asked to choose-

Between her Shauhar and her Love...

What'd she choose?- There U have Ur KANK.😊 (Again- Hated that movie!🤢)