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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Marybarton




Disagreeing is fine but there is a point at which Fan Fiction is not Fan Fiction anymore. At that point it has to do with the definition, not opinions. By definition, fan fiction takes characters written by someone else, such as TV and movie characters or stories. The character is someone else's and you are are taking it as a fan. So you can put them in different scenarios and try to keep to the character as best as you can. That is the only reason the readers are reading it, they want more of the same.

I place them in situations that the characters may not be in, I made Khushi a princess once, but her personality, her character had to be the same. It eased in to her being a royalty. So there is a way of taking liberties without violating FF rules. But if you start off the story with, Khushi is a prostitute in my story and Arnav a client and their personalities are completely different (true story, someone wrote that). That is a different story that is just using the name of the characters to get readers but writing a completely different set of characters and stories. Later we found out the girl plagarized the whole thing. It was a completely different story of someone else's that she stole and changed the names to Khushi and Arnav to get readers and comments here. That is a point where it is not FF, it is just taking a readership by using character names. This is how Fifty Shades of Grey became a separate book by the way, it could no longer be the Twilight Fan Fiction is originially claimed to be.

As for young kids being here, parents nowadays are not fast enough to police everything. The internet is a place where kids can really access a lot. Parents can try, but I gurantee they kids will see the po*nography one way or another, and worse stuff on the internet. So I as a writer try to use my best judgment about what I feel comfortable with them reading. It does not hamper my creativity. I am not saying writers should not write sex scenes anyway because of it. There is a tasteful way of doing it. I would rather a kid read a sex scene than watch graphic violence. IF has regulations about how much explicitness they allow anyway, so creativity to write graphic or explicity sex is limited anyway.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#42
Sorry for my irrelevant post but I just wanted to say hi to Tamara! :P

*waves*

You don't post on the forum besides fan fics and stories nowadays?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Marybarton



That's a lot of anger on the TM's opinion esp. from someone who finds it "pointless rather than mind stimulating."

You are taking the TM and blaming all the writers for their "alarming" "disconnect" with their readers. Have you read all our writing and seen our relationships with our readers? Every writer is a different person entitled to a different point of view. We all know that readers wants romance and esp in the form of erotica, that is preferred in most FFs. But if we write, we are allowed to write what we feel comfortable with and the readers who stay with us stay for the quality of the writing, nothing else. We are always writing, responding and thanking readers who comment on our pieces.

There is no disconnect just because a writer asserts her opinion on the whole business too. The reason writers here sound so frustrated is because we hardly ever get comments, reviews, or criticisms. All we get are DEMANDS, demanding sex scenes, demanding this or that. Writers are not here to offer their services to the reader and wait for their approval (that is for people who depend on TRPs), they are here to write what they like whoever reads and reviews that (good or bad) is free to do so.


I get P_s05. As a writer, I get TM's point. As a reader, I also get the other side.

As writers, we're not doing the readers a favour. The readers aren't doing us a favour by reading. And she's right - seems like only the comments that are "nice to hear" are wanted.

And I think p_s 05 meant that we see these reader/writer posts very often. I've seen so many in the past few months, from both sides. I've even posted one - so have you.

Perhaps readers are feeling as targeted as some of the writers are.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: .Serendipity.

Sorry for my irrelevant post but I just wanted to say hi to Tamara! :P

*waves*

You don't post on the forum besides fan fics and stories nowadays?


Hello beautiful!

I've been busy!

Let's take this offline ;)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: p_s05

Not a PM, I wish to receive on a Monday morning, nonetheless moving on.

I didn't quite comprehend the intent behind this post, so I quickly skimmed over the comments and grasped the possible reason for the concerns raised, if this has extended from readers' comments/feedback on a particular fiction which is undoubtedly an exceptional read, its ridiculously unwarranted to categorise those comments and feedback as a demand for explicit content or constant romance.

As a reader and source of neutral introspect, it is safe to establish, writers do not wish to connect with their readers and the possible variation of mentalities therefore only desiring glorified and positive feedback.

The disconnect between writers and their followers are alarming, in respect of the above distresses, writers should perhaps include disclaimers to ensure they receive the content of feedback they desire to avoid this constant blame game, and general disregard to readers, this is ultimately a give and take relationship which lacks equilibrium.

P.S I find an argument over cyberspace pointless rather than mind stimulating.


P.S.S No offense ChocoBerry Mom, but this topic is becoming exasperating and over drawn.


By far the most objective response I read. Well, I'd say the only but I think mine was pretty objective too ;) Heee!

Okay so!

Choco raised a valid point, because truly, readers should read and trust the writers. And never show disrespect to them. And well, start demanding for sex scenes.

I'm surprised that some people actually did all this...Demand erotic scenes? (Who Choco, that got asked to write explicit scenes?)

Anyway!


p_s05,

Truly!

*I see myself as a reader and source of neutral introspection too (well, am biased for obvious reason) haha*

You're so right!

It's exasperating!

And well it IS Monday!


And I need to know this exceptional read too!! COZ I LOVE READING. ANYTHING EXCEPTIONAL.



And well coz I'm bored.





Edited by farz_parachute - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: .Serendipity.

Sorry for my irrelevant post but I just wanted to say hi to Tamara! :P

*waves*

You don't post on the forum besides fan fics and stories nowadays?



HA

HA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



😆


Awww!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: p_s05

Not a PM, I wish to receive on a Monday morning, nonetheless
moving on.



I didn't quite comprehend the intent behind this post, so I quickly
skimmed over the comments and grasped the possible reason for the concerns raised,
if this has extended from readers' comments/feedback on a particular fiction which
is undoubtedly an exceptional read, its ridiculously unwarranted to categorise
those comments and feedback as a demand for explicit content or constant
romance.



As a reader and source of neutral introspect, it is safe to
establish, writers do not wish to connect with their readers and the possible variation
of mentalities therefore only desiring glorified and positive feedback.



The disconnect between writers and their followers are
alarming, in respect of the above distresses, writers should perhaps include disclaimers
to ensure they receive the content of feedback they desire to avoid this
constant blame game, and general disregard to readers, this is ultimately a
give and take relationship which lacks equilibrium.



P.S I find an argument over cyberspace pointless rather than
mind stimulating.


P.S.S No offense ChocoBerry Mom, but this topic is becoming exasperating and over drawn.

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writers do not wish to connect with their readers and the possible variation
of mentalities therefore only desiring glorified and positive feedback.


THIS.
WORD, woman!

I've always said, if you're asking for likes, comments, and now it's the kind of comments you want, then sorry writers... it ain't a true reflection of your work.
This is the internet. If you want "honest" feedback, take your manuscipt to publisher. (And you may not like the response there, either)

Like I said, it is clear that readers are feeling as targeted as some writers do, and that's as unacceptable.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48
Hey Choco,
Am with you on this issue. I guess the readers need to grasp this fact fast before more of our writers quit just due to the constant negative feedback or pressure they feel while updating. Those who can't keep their unasked opinions & suggestions may very well leave the story thread gracefully instead of spoiling the writers efforts & the readers fun.
A Great step 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
Right, one more bit on the side of readers on this forum, thenmI'm out.

Readers aren't obliged to comment at all, let alone tell you what you want to hear.

Again... this is the internet. Readers read for fun, they're not reviewers. Let them be honest, and let them suggest things. It makes your story interactive, and it makes you approachable. There will always be some negativity but you have to move past that.
And as a writer, just because you're given suggestions, doesn't mean you need to oblige. The story is yours, after all.

Writers may quit... but do we think about what happens when the readers start quitting? Just a thought...


Ok, I will shut up now. I've rambled much too much on this thread.

😆
Edited by Tamara27 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: Marybarton



That's a lot of anger on the TM's opinion esp. from someone who finds it "pointless rather than mind stimulating."

You are taking the TM and blaming all the writers for their "alarming" "disconnect" with their readers. Have you read all our writing and seen our relationships with our readers? Every writer is a different person entitled to a different point of view. We all know that readers wants romance and esp in the form of erotica, that is preferred in most FFs. But if we write, we are allowed to write what we feel comfortable with and the readers who stay with us stay for the quality of the writing, nothing else. We are always writing, responding and thanking readers who comment on our pieces.

There is no disconnect just because a writer asserts her opinion on the whole business too. The reason writers here sound so frustrated is because we hardly ever get comments, reviews, or criticisms. All we get are DEMANDS, demanding sex scenes, demanding this or that. Writers are not here to offer their services to the reader and wait for their approval (that is for people who depend on TRPs), they are here to write what they like whoever reads and reviews that (good or bad) is free to do so.



@Black: *speechless*

Your cognizance of your surrounding environment and civility is astounding!

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