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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani


My issue is not that he is dancing with another girl.

1) Married or taken people can dance with others who are not their significant other. It's not always sexual or romantic. It happens often.

2) He may be dancing I think perhaps to make Sanam jealous or make a point to her. Here, I don't really care if he wants to dance with other girls since he and Sanam are not "really married" according to them. So if he wants to make some point to her, it's one thing.. But the issue is how he's humiliating Sanam in the process of doing so.

My topic is first regarding the BS blame that Rehan is getting for wiping Sanam's tears, because apparently he shouldn't be doing it since she's Aahil's wife. Ummm, Aahil insulted her in the first place.

Second my issue is his public insult and then how he is dancing with her forcefully and hurting her in the process--at least that's how it comes off in the segments.

If Aahil is jealous and reacts by pulling her into a dance. That's fine. But what's NOT fine, romantic, or enjoyable is to see her strung around like a doll and him hurting her. What is enjoyable about this? What was the point of that? They don't know any other way to show passion and intensity and jealousy? Is this all they know?

Next, he stops dancing with Sanam and goes on to dance with the other girl. I think perhaps this is because she keeps telling him to leave her, and so he does and he dances with the other girl. (Don't know, just assuming from one clip I saw.) But see, the problem is that Sanam had already been insulted in front of all of them by him. And the way he and the other girls are going about, they not even acknowledging Sanam's position as wife. Instead they seem to be belittling her and not deeming her worthy of the respect, thus humiliating her.

And yeah, None of this is enjoyable to watch. At all.

Intense scenes, emotional scenes. scenes where they both lash out at each other. All are fine. Even if we feel for the characters and want to cry and feel a sting in our hearts, what we watch is still enjoyable. But what was shown in the segments didn't seem enjoyable at all. Instead we saw humiliation of Sanam and Aahil acting physically with her. Do these writers and CVs know nothing else?


Exactly where the problem lies, its about who did what or when its about whats wrong and right at this point. Aahil is mad at her fine, he wants to make her jealous fine, but forcibly dancing like that is just plain wrong, thats inhumane. No matter what, you are not allowed to do something a girl feels uncomfortable in be it in privacy or in public there is no excuse.

He wants her to hate him right, but why do it in a manner where it reaches to a point where the girls reputations is on ice, when one begins to play with ice thats when the real hell breaks loose. Making her uncomfortable, making a joke outta of her is WRONG and what makes it worse is that at the end Cvs is not going to go back to these scenes and Sanam is going to fall in love with him and no one is going to remember the past cruelties.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92
It's sad that Aahil won't at least uphold the essence of shaadi here, after everything he told his mother about not believing in it but respecting the institution of it.

I hope he does start to though. I'm dreading the "forceful" dance scenes - everyone screams because they're hot...but it just seems dumb to me cause Aahil ISN'T heartless. He cares about the common man, shows respect as a fellow human being to others...so this just seems so out of character -_- He isn't one to humiliate in public...especially someone you've said qubool hai to. Make her jealous? That's fine, whatever floats your boat. But demean her in front of others? Doesn't seem like Aahil's style right now... I'm waiting till it ends so we can move on haha
Edited by shockalot - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This will always be a debatable subject. A double standard always stands.

We have to see the scene play out but I am sure it was Rehan being Saman's friend, the friend he was even before he fell in love with her. And I think Rehan does respect the marriage but to a extent. Otherwise no man would leave a meaningful gift like bangles for his brothers wife.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shockalot

It's sad that Aahil won't at least uphold the essence of shaadi here, after everything he told his mother about not believing in it but respecting the institution of it.

I hope he does start to though. I'm dreading the "forceful" dance scenes - everyone screams because they're hot...but it just seems dumb to me cause Aahil ISN'T heartless. He cares about the common man, shows respect as a fellow human being to others...so this just seems so out of character -_- He isn't one to humiliate in public...especially someone you've said qubool hai to. Make her jealous? That's fine, whatever floats your boat. But demean her in front of others? Doesn't seem like Aahil's style right now... I'm waiting till it ends so we can move on haha


This is what I don't get. What leads him to do this suddenly?

Also, I am hoping like anything that dance doesn't come off the way it's coming off. Showing jealousy, passion and possessiveness doesn't mean physically forcing her to dance and hurting her in the process all throughout.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Siddu246

This will always be a debatable subject. A double standard always stands.

We have to see the scene play out but I am sure it was Rehan being Saman's friend, the friend he was even before he fell in love with her. And I think Rehan does respect the marriage but to a extent. Otherwise no man would leave a meaningful gift like bangles for his brothers wife.


My topic title here is specific to this particular situation--wherein which it's supposedly a "contract marriage" where Aahil and Sanam are pretending and will divorce within three months. And the title is directed at the reaction to Rehan in the forum for wiping Sanam's tears.

Rehan does respect the marriage--actually more than many in his position would considering he is aware of most of the details. And you are right that no man would leave such a gift for his brother's wife, but not many men would be thrown in the situation he was thrown in either. This is not just the case of a man leaving a gift for another man's wife or his brother's wife. The situation is more complex than that. And the same can be turned around to Aahil. Why is Aahil tolerating Rehan's feelings and actions towards his wife and not lashing out at Rehan? Because the situation is not so simple.

Anyway, i've said here and other places that Rehan would be wrong in expecting to marry Sanam in three months, and there are a few different reasons for why it would be wrong. But I don't think Rehan would be wrong in accepting that should Aahil-Sanam marriage really end in three months he would still be willing to marry Sanam. However he is already seeing that the situation is complicated and tangled and messy. So yeah, he is not expecting much and has accepted his fate. And he was attempting process of closure with the bangles
Look, as much as I defend Rehan. The only time his romantic feelings for Sanam touched me was when he went to Dilshad to ask for her hand. Even then at first it made me riled up till I realized he was just trying to do the right thing. I feel a bit sorry for him here and there with regards to Sanam but not much. I've always felt and empathized more for Aahil and his situation than Rehan's.

But one thing is I do like the character himself. And I can understand his reactions according to what he's supposed to be feeling and have gone through. Meaning while I don't particularly feel bad with him or for him when he mourns his loss of Sanam, I do understand his subsequent reactions and actions.

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Edited by KhatamKahani - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#96
I'm neutral on this thought of yours

I agree that Ahil doesn't own her, she isn't his property, but at the same time if he see's another man close to his wife, jealousy will knock at the door, especially since he does secretly love her

As for Rehan he's just concerned. True he loves her, secretly also, but he shows more concern than her actual husband does, so Ahil shouldn't get mad but think about the fact that maybe his wife isn't happy.

Nice post :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: micshy

it does make her his property... after marriage only husband has most rights on his wife... even more than her parents... so if he feels that somebody else is touching his wife n he is feeling bad then its totally justified ... n in this case he LOVES his wife too...


p.s i want to add one thing having right on ur wife doesnt mean that u hv to ill treat her or insult her... but being a husband if somebody touches his wife n he wont feel bad about it then there is certainly a problem with his mardaangi 😛

Women are not properties of men however intense and passionate the notion of it sounds, you cannot use it describe a relationship b/w a couple. And mardangi is a pretty regressive word. I cannot understand why some of you can't recheck what you write and what it interprets into when read. I cannot stand men with this type of Neanderthal mentality you being a female is shocking and annoyingly so. 😳
Edited by Ruchi-interest - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hmmm... so I have been ridiculously upset over this stupid clip ever since I saw it.

So much so... that my friends had to start convincing me to reserve judgement on the actual episode and what happens.

It does seem suddenly out of character when you think about it. I mean, I really wanted the act up on this one. I expected the whole "Lawyer act" but on like, steroids.

I wanted Aahil to show Sanam off to his friends.

I think KK, you made a lot of sense when you say that something has happened between the end of the Eid episode and this - I guess we have to wait and see.

But... I'm going to have to see a whole lot of redemption and remorse from Aahil before I can stop being "ridiculously upset" over his treatment of Sanam.

And to the girls that think that his behaviour is a romantic sign of him being a jealous, passionate lover? Think again, I beg of you.

I foresee some very unhappy marriages in your future if this is what you think love is. It is NOT.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow 13 pages. I guess I missed the weekend twist in the tale.
Just now saw the section. Agree with most of your post but not all.
Agree
Rehaan wiping tears is ok, in fact more than ok.
This comes from an ardent Saahil fan.😉
Sanam is all alone there and she needs a friend.

Ahil getting J, yes, that's how a hubby who thinks he knows his wife's past would react.
So far so good.
Ahil Getting angry at Sanam is fine. Even if Ahil would've shouted at her, that wouldnt have been so bothering.
But insulting her is a big No.

Unlike her mom, who got riled up only when her clothes were questioned, and never gave back to her lover, I sincerely hope Sanam gives it back to Ahil. And I think she will, Sanam has not let us down till now.
Disagree
I don't agree that Rehaan should not respect the marriage. Both of them said QH with full knowledge of who/how the other person is. Am not saying marriage is for keeps, but it shouldn't be disregarded without at least giving it a try. Whether Sanam and AHil are good / bad for each other, is for them to decide, and till they come to a decision regarding their mrg, Rehaan cannot disrepsect the mrg. But yes he can wipe the tears and maybe make it clear to Ahil that He hasn't yet proposed to Sanam.


Edit - I think Ahil saw them together when he came with his friends and the dance and insults were post the wiping of tears.
Pre - wiping of tears, I'm sure Tanveer must've instigated AHil against Sanam. But that doesn't make his crime any less punishable.
Ahil needs a solid redemption track, before Sanam can/should develop any feelings for him.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Tamara27

Hmmm... so I have been ridiculously upset over this stupid clip ever since I saw it.

So much so... that my friends had to start convincing me to reserve judgement on the actual episode and what happens.

It does seem suddenly out of character when you think about it. I mean, I really wanted the act up on this one. I expected the whole "Lawyer act" but on like, steroids.

I wanted Aahil to show Sanam off to his friends.

I think KK, you made a lot of sense when you say that something has happened between the end of the Eid episode and this - I guess we have to wait and see.

But... I'm going to have to see a whole lot of redemption and remorse from Aahil before I can stop being "ridiculously upset" over his treatment of Sanam.

And to the girls that think that his behaviour is a romantic sign of him being a jealous, passionate lover? Think again, I beg of you.

I foresee some very unhappy marriages in your future if this is what you think love is. It is NOT.


@bold - Word.
How can Insult and force be romantic?


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