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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: chicksoup



Delena,

I don't mind at all.😊

Is that the real story? I guess you got your info from F32 that Zee asked them to show something like this...even then, I don't see where you feel they went wrong.

We all agree that Zoya was stupid...and the message is that YOUR STUPIDITY CAN COST YOU YOUR LIFE...as was shown by a scared Zoya standing under the street light...and her confessing to Asad hat she had been scared.

It is not an isolated event...when I said about me going for a movie amidst a strike..I meant it.

IT IS IMPORTANT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF A STIKE IT WAS...ONLY CABS AND AUTOS...Private cars and buses were running...so it was not a bandh...JUST A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION of non- co- operation ONLY BY CABS AND AUTOS.

That Mr. Khan offered to take her, had it not been for his 'meeting', itself shows the lightness of the strike situation. I think many of us are MISTAKING it for a HARTAAL...which would be like 'better to stay at home' situation.

If you don't mind me asking you, Do you live in India?😊
I come from a place where we have a record number of hartaals and strikes and what not😆...I don't attribute any significance to a cab strike.😳

I think the message is that, a girl can get into a difficult situation, thanks to her stupidity...but no matter what her situation is, NO GUY HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE HER OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER.😳



Unfortunately I did move back recently 😆

I am not disagreeing with the point about nobody has the right to judge or rape you - it is about being smart when you do go out.

It's like saying - I know that downtown NY can get me killed but I still go there after hours and get mugged. The criminals are most definitely wrong but I am equally stupid for going somewhere I knew was unsafe.

Take South Africa - people get shot at on drive-by's. you are advised against walking on the streets at any time.

In India - I do what I want when I want where I want - but I also make sure I have my car with me or at least a friend does.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62
@ Delena90 ...you are absolutely correct ..I think Zoya was very foolish and irresponsible ...in fact of late she is being shown as a very dominating character ..not paying heed to anyone's concerns ...taking ad hoc and random decisions without paying much attention to the consequences .. there are flaws in the characterization...this Zoya seems a far cry from the Zoya who was so disciplined when she was at the madrasa after she left Khan Villa . There is no continuity in her character . Was not in sync with her sudden decision to get Nazma and Imran engaged ..against Asaad's reservations !
In both the cases ...going to see Dhoni and Nazma/Imran alliance ...Asaad wanted to take a cautious move but Zoya threw caution to the winds and bulldozed everyone her way ...in both cases she has been proved wrong !

What will be shown next ..any remorse from her ? Of course not ...as promos are already being telecast showing her fighting with Asaad over decorations .

CVs should keep her character on one track ...spritely .but grounded !
Now she has become overbearing , irresponsible and somewhat a control freak ...her way or the highway !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
Wel said dear! Awsm n mch needed post!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: shanry


Thanks, Shanry.

I guess we can only take it as, the festivities got delayed and by the time Zoya came to the bus stop and realised there was no bus...her battery was dead..and it was late. She got carried away...it would have been an evening thing since that is the usual clebration time, I guess.

What was Asad doing? Or rather, what did the CVs do to him? Why DID HE NOT SET OUT IMMEDIATELY FOR THE GROUND HIMSELF, KNOWING BUSES MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE...It was foolishness on the Cvs' part to show him waiting at HOME DOING NOTHING. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF AT A MEETING, if he was not rushing to the ground and trying to cantact her there...


He supposedly knows Bhopal better, yet EVEN HE THOUGHT SHE'D GET BACK HOME SOMEHOW...and he stayed home TILL SHE GOT BACK...means- the situation was not as dangerously perceived by him as was by most of us. He simply thought she'd walk back home at that hour???

If he did, I wouldn't crucify him...it is probably not an unheard of thing for him, though he keeps strict rules...

Asad nitpicking...Zoya had apologised...the apology was done...now what is the point in again going on about the why and how of it???

She made a mistake- she apologised...now is he going to dissect that mistake and get more apologies out of her? What is the point in telling someone who already knows she was wrong, that SHE WAS WRONG???

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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: delena90



And again - who the hell is curbing her freedom??? It's about being smart and responsible to ensure that you can do what you want and sill be safe.


again she is not doing anything wrong..so there is no question of being 'smart'
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Word ...
I have travelled around the world alone, been stranded at airports because of missed connections, and have had to make some expensive choices a little more than i could afford as a grad studentbecause as an independent person i am obligated to keep myself safe and my loved ones worry free. Communication and updating on whereabouts is non negotiable. It is truly a travesty that zoya is the one chosen to preach to the choir! Hell, men too should be scared of getting stranded like that! Rape is not the only crime that can be committed ... Hate crimes, armed robbery, kidnapping you name it.
Zoyas dialogue in the show showed her guilt and acknowledgement pf her foolhardiness. She was not given the virtue of separating her ego frpm the truth. Her subsequent obnoxiousness in the last few episodes including the incredibly stupid face making have lowered her conduct levels to razias crassness.
Its very sad rhat after all the agony and ordeals that she has been through, she emerges as childish, instead of child like.


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Why do we want Zoya to be like us in every possible way?

Do you throw chips packets on the floor and burn CDs in cakes? There are people who do that...Zoya is just that- an imperfect person...that does NOT MEAN ONLY PERFECT PEOPLE CAN PREACH ...

I think that is again a valid point.

No point saying...she was careful, yet it happened...the point is, she made a mistake- invited danger...are you going to judge and say that she deserved it?

I know your answer would be 'NO'.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: studentofdayear



again she is not doing anything wrong..so there is no question of being 'smart'



She is absolutely wrong! And if you can't see or understand that there is no point debating with you.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: delena90



She is absolutely wrong! And if you can't see or understand that there is no point debating with you.

she is absolutely right! if u cannot see that then there is no point debating with u!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: chicksoup



😔
Why do we want Zoya to be like us in every possible way?

Do you throw chips packets on the floor and burn CDs in cakes? There are people who do that...Zoya is just that- an imperfect person...that does NOT MEAN ONLY PERFECT PEOPLE CAN PREACH ...

I think that is again a valid point.

No point saying...she was careful, yet it happened...the point is, she made a mistake- invited danger...are you going to judge and say that she deserved it?

I know your answer would be 'NO'.😊




This is a sordid and perverse world. We can't control other people's reactions and actions but we can control ours so whether she was scared or not doesn't negate the fact that she was wrong.

FYI, had Asad done something similar he would have been wrong too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: studentofdayear


she is absolutely right! if u cannot see that then there is no point debating with u!



You sound so smart. Please talk some more 😃

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