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Posted: 12 years ago
Rupunzale I know earlier when you made this post you hadn't watched the episode, you'd just read the WU right? I hope you got to watch the last two episodes, because I think it'll change your mind about Asad. Yes he did mistakes in the past, I will never forget the Slapgate Fiasco, nor how dumb he became in TanBitch's presence, but let's not get into that.

The point is, he has grown to selflessly love Zoya 😳 He is in a state of self-loathing at the moment, I'd have found it very controlling behavior if he had insisted upon taking Zoya back to the Khan Villa despite her wishes. I am proud of Asad 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Drea_QH1fan

I love how you fight for Asad Kirann ...But you shouldn't try so hard for someone who is not going to change her point of view of him...No matter how much of a good man he is...


Now can I get Asad for myself??😆 It's her point of view and I respect it. It's a good debate and I don't mind it as long as things don't get out of hand which I'm sure won't get:)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: youth_showsfan

hey really sorry to interupt ur conversation
f talking abt trust
zoya has broken asads trust not once but many times and once a trust brakes its hard to trust d same person again. and i guess it comes back with only time
asad asked zoya not to keep mariam in d house yet she hided d fact dt she kept mariam n d house. she didnt even bother to tell dilshaad or najma forget asad. its asad's house n being a guest one cant keep someone else without telling d owner of d house. (this was d point where he realised zoya can lie also)
then rashid case asad took her to d house where her fathers clue cn be found out but what did zoya give n return? stopped him from reaching to d court? i agree she did this for dilshaad but dts where asad i think realised dt she s not a person to be trusted.
the difference here is billi tells d truth herself b4 asad can come to know either from his own instinct or through someone else. he always says speak truth. so when billi herself confesses like she told abt d eye thing she also made a story so zoya telling him later didnt impact him cause billi herself told him. nd meanwhile zoya always gets caught leing. there s a huge difference i believe when u catch someone lieing and when someone automatically tells u d twisted truth b4 anyone else can say it. the one who speaks first always gets a benefit of doubt
if u see asads dialogue he always says its not the time to joke or dont be silly. zoya;s image infront of asad s dt she is mischivious and can lie too even though for a good cause but for him a lie is a lie.
coming to d topic i guess he didnt wanted to force zoya to meet him nd thus went. but in todays episode he stayed back at night nd also n precap he is wearing d same clothes so i guess he stayed back.
having said dt i liked what asad did today he didnt take zoya to khan mansion he respected zoya's wish, she had left his house nd taking her back would have meant he disrespected her wish of moving out and plus it would have been more painful. i believe asya shud step n dt house together only after clearing their MU 😳 todays epi was good😊

Ofcourse Zoya has proven to be not trust worthy many a times in Asad's eyes and she was a stranger...a principled man like Asad shouldn't be having double standards then...but what did we see? He gave the benefit of doubt to Billo when she lied about her glass eye...marriage...has he not? Wasn't it not a reason enough to doubt Billo ? Isn't it hypocrisy by all means.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..


Trust comes with time.. Zoya told him Billi lied about burn marks, Asad did not say anything to her but waited and asked Billo to show marks, there were marks so he believed what he saw with his eyes..Zoya told about white eye, Asad did not deny but Billi told him that even before Zoya.. Asad never said that Zoya was doing all that intentionally or out of jealousy towards Tannu, he just said Zoya was having misunderstanding and two people can have misunderstandings.. He did not question Zoya's intentions, he knew her heart is pure as he said she is bholi and masum...Zoya did not tell him about SR plan..Even Zoya does not have that blind trust.. I am not criticizing her, I find it totally ok.. They will build trust with time.. She believed what she saw with her eyes so did Asad.. If she trusts Asad blindly , she wouldn't have gone like this before listening to him even once..
Asad did not trust Zoya against his best friend who is all goody goody for him, but Zoya did not trust Asad against evil Tanveer when she knew how disgusting Tannu is.. So can you explain this??

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Ofcourse Zoya has proven to be not trust worthy many a times in Asad's eyes and she was a stranger...a principled man like Asad shouldn't be having double standards then...but what did we see? He gave the benefit of doubt to Billo when she lied about her glass eye...marriage...has he not? Wasn't it not a reason enough to doubt Billo ? Isn't it hypocrisy by all means.


Its not double standards, hypocrisy but true friendship from his side..Billi herself told him about glass eye.. And marriage she told how much she suffered , her husband is bad man like that.. Asad was feeling bad for his friend who suffered so much in her life(according to him).. For one moment forget about Tanveer is evil, and your childhood friend will tell such life story, will you start shouting for why she lied or feel bad for her condition..According to Asad, Billi suffered a lot , has so much pain, so he is helping her..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

agree trust comes with time...but again hasn't he known her long enough to trust her...he still didn't trust her...didn't even give her the benefit of doubt . He was always ready to doubt her. Ots very disappointing to watch that. Kiraan, I don't have a problem with Asad ...I did give the character a chance after the slap episode...i felt betrayed as a viewer so now i need to see a real redemption from his side. What I cannot digest is the fact that Zoya is going through the punishment. She is the one suffering and no man is worth it...simply no one.


This is an extremely wrong thing to show that a strong woman like Zoya falls apart for a man like this...yes she is shocked and is in depression but punishing oneself for a man...it's not right. What about her Appi and jiju ? What about her life? I don't like to see women break down this way.


Let's not forget Zoya has lied to him many a times and a man like him who already has trust issues will not so easily trust her especially when she was a guest at his place. But then again he slowly started understanding her and started giving her benefit of doubt. That's a huge step from his side.

Zoya is not the only one suffering. Asad is suffering too. What's his fault? That he trusts his friend? That harsh punishment for trusting you friend? Both are suffering without any fault of theirs and if you wanna blame Asad, Zoya is equally to blame. Let's be fair!

Don't strong women have emotions? Don't they have a heart? Everyone has a breaking point. She has lost so much and now finally she was seeing her life with the man she loves and she felt betrayed on her wedding day. Why wouldn't she break? She's a human after all. NO matter how strong one is, everyone has a breaking point. Even strongest of buildings fall down when storm comes and here we are talking about a human. Zoya is still strong and courageous enough to help orphan kids. What's so wrong and weak about that? I just don't get it. What were you expecting her to do? She can't be the same bubbly girl reciting couplets after getting the shock of lifetime.

The only person to blame in all this is tanwh**e who needs to be tortured to death!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..


He did say he believes her but asked her to show proofs. That was his step towards trust. WE cannot expect him to just get up and say yes Zoya I trust you, let's kick Billo out. I understand that his blind faith in Tannu is irritating and unrealistic. It's equally annoying and irritating to me as well and I absolutely hate it. He might have his reasons or whatever the case be, I don't even wanna get into that. Forum32's article said, there might be a back-story as to why he blindly trusts Billi. I don't know the back-story, hence I'm not even going to comment anymore on that. But with Zoya, even Zoya herself did so much stuff which is why he didn't trust her. I'm not saying Zoya is wrong, her intentions are always right but she does mess stuff up a lot. but lately, he had developed a lot of understanding and trust. If you are gunna see things as Zoya's fan or you are nto going to put your dislike for Asad aside, I don't think you can see Asad in positive light or you can understand his actions.

Even now, even though he's totally devastated, shattered, lonely, depressed, you're still saying he doesn't love Zoya enough. I don't see desperation. The thing is different times call for different measures. Why would he be desperate now? To ask for forgiveness when she doesn't wanna see his face? When he knows he's the reason of her pain? When he himself thinks he has wronged her? betrayed her? He's completely shattered, devastated, lost, his day starts with her and ends with her, sees her everywhere, crying day and night, doesn't eat properly, slept on the floor just because she sleeps there, curses himself, stayed all night outside the orphanage because she's not well and you say he doesn't love her enough? What do you want him to do? Kill himself? Just because he's not desperate to meet her he doesn't love her? he has clearly stated he wants her to forget him and move on because she deserves better so why would he be desperate to meet her? Yes he wanted to ask her for forgiveness but she said she doesn't wanna meet him, so he respected her wishes and didn't meet her. Now he's respecting her wishes, understanding her, doesn't force her and is accepting her as is. This is love now. Selfless love as Delena90 said in her post!

dear Kiraan...I am really beginning to like you girl ! It's really nice to see someone trying to defend what she believes in...you are as persistent as I am😉...ok here we go...as I mentioned before its not that I don't want to see Asad in a positive light...I do...I did try but when I think about the whole cycle it refrains me to think otherwise. I as a person cannot support a relationship where a woman has been abused...it's a vicious cycle and once into it it's very hard to get out. I don't want Zoya in this relationship until Asad completely trusts her once for an all...go back into thinking about everything that zoya has disclosed about billo...figuring it out himself...and for that the first step it to believe in her completely...cut of Billo absolutely from his life...I really don't see a point in crying and wallowing...of he really loves her...he needs to come clean with her about everything...he needs to assure her that there was a reason that he had to abandon her...Zoya feels abandoned and betrayed ...she is hurting profusely...yes she doesn't wants to see her...but as a woman we all know what she wants really...don't we? She actually wants him to come and apologize ...assure her. He needs to realize this and that is what is coming up in Ajmer...he is not going to hold back anymore and confess his love.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Ofcourse Zoya has proven to be not trust worthy many a times in Asad's eyes and she was a stranger...a principled man like Asad shouldn't be having double standards then...but what did we see? He gave the benefit of doubt to Billo when she lied about her glass eye...marriage...has he not? Wasn't it not a reason enough to doubt Billo ? Isn't it hypocrisy by all means.

billi herself confessed it n made a story along with it so zoya telling him didnt make a difference cause billi had already taken asad n her confidence by lieing perfectly but apart from dt i feel there has to be a back story for asad trusting billi so much.
my theory is simple dt when rashid left them billli was d one to support asad n his bad times. dilshaad must hv been busy with d pain n billi must have made asad realise his responsibility must have consoled her or asked him to take care f najma etc.
i feel he feels connected to his childhood with billi nd may be out of emotions he agrees. or there could be another reason like she can never lie to me or something nd another thing is he always believed girls wearing traditional clothes cant be wrong. he accepted girl wearing modern clothes r also not wrong thnx to zoya but with this it doesnt means dt former thinking will change. i guess this myth will brake with billis truth.
wt catches my eyes n d article is
What do you think has happened in their past that has Tanveer establish such a hold over his psyche?
this will bring d past or rather childhood scenes where we might get to see d reason but dt shud have been shown n begenning not now i guess.
Can one believe or trust someone so blindly?
i dont know y this gives me a feeling dt in d end we as viewers will realise dt asad knew something.
or it could be dt something n childhood happened which made him trust her blindly.
i'll wait n watch d back story b4 commenting as at tis point f time no argument will be concrete as its based on assumptions.
Edited by youth_showsfan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..


Let's not forget Zoya has lied to him many a times and a man like him who already has trust issues will not so easily trust her especially when she was a guest at his place. But then again he slowly started understanding her and started giving her benefit of doubt. That's a huge step from his side.

Zoya is not the only one suffering. Asad is suffering too. What's his fault? That he trusts his friend? That harsh punishment for trusting you friend? Both are suffering without any fault of theirs and if you wanna blame Asad, Zoya is equally to blame. Let's be fair!

Don't strong women have emotions? Don't they have a heart? Everyone has a breaking point. She has lost so much and now finally she was seeing her life with the man she loves and she felt betrayed on her wedding day. Why wouldn't she break? She's a human after all. NO matter how strong one is, everyone has a breaking point. Even strongest of buildings fall down when storm comes and here we are talking about a human. Zoya is still strong and courageous enough to help orphan kids. What's so wrong and weak about that? I just don't get it. What were you expecting her to do? She can't be the same bubbly girl reciting couplets after getting the shock of lifetime.

The only person to blame in all this is tanwh**e who needs to be tortured to death!


@bold: Very nice.

Only thing I want say here is, if you see from Zoya's POV, in all her 23 years of life she never shared her pain with anyone.. She always used to spread happiness with her smile.. If you notice she always used to say, I can take care of myself I don't need anybody but deep down she was craving for somebody to be with her always, she found that person in Asad.. Imagine a girl who never shared anything with anyone in entire life , she did it with Asad,. This fact itself describes how much she is attached to Asad..And suddenly she lost everything.. Once she was broken when she lost her parents, she overcame that now once again she broke.. Its difficult to become normal second time..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

dear Kiraan...I am really beginning to like you girl ! It's really nice to see someone trying to defend what she believes in...you are as persistent as I am😉...ok here we go...as I mentioned before its not that I don't want to see Asad in a positive light...I do...I did try but when I think about the whole cycle it refrains me to think otherwise. I as a person cannot support a relationship where a woman has been abused...it's a vicious cycle and once into it it's very hard to get out. I don't want Zoya in this relationship until Asad completely trusts her once for an all...go back into thinking about everything that zoya has disclosed about billo...figuring it out himself...and for that the first step it to believe in her completely...cut of Billo absolutely from his life...I really don't see a point in crying and wallowing...of he really loves her...he needs to come clean with her about everything...he needs to assure her that there was a reason that he had to abandon her...Zoya feels abandoned and betrayed ...she is hurting profusely...yes she doesn't wants to see her...but as a woman we all know what she wants really...don't we? She actually wants him to come and apologize ...assure her. He needs to realize this and that is what is coming up in Ajmer...he is not going to hold back anymore and confess his love.


Ahah Thanks<3 I don't mind debating as long as it's a healthy discussion:) I don't deny Asad has been a complete jackass in the past and you know I absolutely hated when he yelled at her, slapped her and did many other things but the thing is that's how his character was supposed to be and how he slowly grows. He's a flawed character with a good heart. He has made mistakes but the thing he's trying to improve and he's changing himself for Zoya. Would you not agree that he has changed a lot and he's still changing? We all wanted him to redeem himself and he's redeeming. He;s suffering. Much worse than what he made Zoya go through. I don't think it's fair to ask for more. He didn't deserve this harsh punishment. Fate played a cruel game and he's suffering in worse way possible for being a good man who trusted his friend.

Coming to now, what will he assure her when he himself thinks he has wronged her? He wanted to apologize but she didn't wanna meet so he is just respecting her choice. isn't that a big change? Look at it this way. If it was old Asad, he would've forced her but this Asad has changed. he respects her choice and doesn't go meet her even though he's dying to meet her. Even today he didn't take her home and respected her choice. Love is about respect, trust, understanding and accepting the person as is. He has started respecting her and her choice, now he's accepting her as is and understands her pain and what she's going through. he's beginning to trust her as well and this trust will get stronger as we go on. How else is he to redeem? Now we as girls know Zoya is just hurt but she wants to meet him and tell her he loves her but this is the first time for him and he's not very good in this case. Once he realizes this, he'll pursue her and apologize and we know that's happening in Ajmer. So what else do we expect from him? He has completely changed for her. Isn't that love all about?

You complained yesterday he didn't wait for her outside, today he did. Didn't he? All I'm saying is he's slowly learning and changing. And let's not forget, he's in pain too. He has lost everything. He loathes himself. He doesn't even trust himself. So aren't we being too harsh on him? Let's give the credit where it's due:)

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