Speak Urdu, but Can't Write it? LOL! - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Incidentally, Urdu is not the mother tongue of all Indian Muslims. Take for instance the south Indian states or even in East India, it is not necessary that Muslims there will speak Urdu at home.
Study in Convent Schools or in Elite Private Schools and there is every possibility that you will not be offered Urdu even as a second language. So the only way such urban Muslims from well-to-do families can learn Urdu is by hiring a private tutor. And that again depends on the inclination of the family and child whether they learn.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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When people living in India or Indians living across the world watch Pakistani or any other pure Urdu shows, they too do what you do - Kaam chala hi lete hain.

At the end of the day each person has a reason for wanting to watch television. If you have qualms with something, one needs to decide whether the reason to watch it in the first place is still strong enough.

Gul Khan is a Muslim, an Indian and a woman who is very good at her job. Appreciation toh banta hai!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: whoops


India's literacy rate is somewhere around 74% meaning that only 74% of Indians can read ANY of the 22 recognized languages, let alone 95% Indians knowing English. Not everything is written in English, not even in Metropolitan cities...in fact not even in hindi, mostly its a combination of the regional language, hindi and the teeniest bit of english. At most places, English translations are given, Not the other way round.

Really cause as far as I know...shops like McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Dominoes etc and names of schools and work places are all written in English so I'm not sure how u got that idea but maybe if u say so Sadia :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: msg1


Sorry, but u don't have good idea about Indians. You are probably talking abt the once living in urban area...most of the people in semi urban or rural area do not know English that well or don't know it at all... And all the government work is in local language and in English...

I guess maybe ur right but the place I use to live in when I lived in India hardly required me to even read Hindi which is probably why I dont know how to read it properly...Plus we use to do all our subjects like English obviously 😆, Science, Maths, Social Studies(I think thats what its called in India), GK and pretty much everything besides the subject Hindi so thats why have I a bit of hard time believing that people in India dont know how to read English...
Edited by LoveAsYa222 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Interesting point that you've raised...I live in the UK and the language we speak in our family other than English is Gujarati...However, I can only just about speak it never mind read or write it...Urdu is another matter, I can read it very well because we have been taught various facets of the Islamic religion through books written in Urdu...and this is learnt in the madrassa, this is a school where you learn about the religion and how to pray the Quran, the five daily prayers and other aspects of Islam whilst growing up...I don't know if this is the case all over the world, but it certainly was with me and many other Muslims living here...

So coming back to the topic I completely agree with the topic-maker...besides this one point, there are also others in the show that bother me when it comes to portraying the Islamic religion...and I'm not talking about culture, I'm talking about the actual religion...there are many practices shown in the show that are complete innovations and have no place in Islam...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My mom is a Muslim born and raised in India. Half of her family is from Pakistan and she speaks very flaunt Urdu but does not know how to read it or write it. So I think it's perfectly understandable for a person especially from Asad's generation to not know how to write in Urdu.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i have seen in movies if they show a muslim or urdu speaking muslim they will show the letter in urdu also .. mostly .. but in this serial they are not really following any culture that much.. :) I guess Gul also dont know to write urdu ..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoveAsYa222

Really cause as far as I know...shops like McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Dominoes etc and names of schools and work places are all written in English so I'm not sure how u got that idea but maybe if u say so Sadia :)

Actually, only 12.16% of Indians speak English. Only 5% of Indian men and 3%of Indian women speak English fluently. The figures for Indians who are able to 'read' English are obviously much lower.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Elsewhere on this thread I've read that Hindi is the national language of India. Actually, it is not. It is the official language of India. India follows a three-language policy, and English and the language of the state you live in are the other two official languages.
The distinction between 'national' and 'official' means that, for instance, you don't have to automatically translate everything into Hindi all over India.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: whoops


Okay, since this is the second time i'm quoting and jumping in, just want to clear this out, no offense intended 😕, this is just to put forth my views and get to know yours :)

See, QH is not an educative initiative of some sort or a travel show. They never meant to "Represent a culture" or get viewers to"appreciate it". QH is an entertainment show. Even in the beginning (in an interview ) Gul mentioned that them being Muslim has little to do with the story, the show was never supposed to revolve around the religion or anything. Even if it did, hindi is just as familiar for Indian muslims as is Urdu, maybe more. It has a lot to do with the geography and the demographics.
Also, at least the Indian viewers, would definitely not find this weird or get any mixed signals as they see muslims conversing in hindi all the time.

How is writing in Hindi promoting another culture? Hindi is as much their language as it is for a Hindu. The situations for Muslims in most other countries is very different, but in India, at least according to my experience, they converse in Hindi more often than in Urdu. Even in the show, Technically, they don't talk in Urdu. Maybe a few words here and there, but most of it is hindi only.

Again, this is just my POV and a friendly discussion, so here, take this smile 😊


Sorry to jump in, but I would just like to say something here. I think in India, ppl have mixed hindi n urdu so much as now they cannot recognize when some1 is speaking in urdu only or in hindi only. I, being a Pakistani, think that the language used in this show is urdu (very few words are hindi). It's because in Pak, we are not taught hindi (also, the pt. to be noted is urdu is influenced from many languages and hindi is one of them).

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