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EDIT: So yesterday a lot of people were angry that I made such a huge claim about stealing and plagiarism. But after hearing today's dialogues (which matched proposal story scene linked below), I hope you can see where I was coming from. As many said, when you copy dialogues, that's when it goes from "inspiration" to plagiarism. It went there.
The dialogue is - room full of flowers with him kneeling in the middle and he suggested no, he was standing. The bickered in the same way too. The dog in park talk harked back to Kal Ho Na Ho a little, but that was dissimilar enough not to be plagiarism.
Not very original to talk of flowers and kneeling, you may add, but the dialogue in the movie is word for word the same. That shows that the movie was definitely used. It's not like the PH is not capable of writing a romantic scene on their own, they wrote that beautiful full circle scene with Asad remembering how he first saw her. So why the need to copy dialogues and scenes from another movie? You can write a deportation inquisition without copying another writer's work. Really.
Mary.
Yesterday's post:
While deportation is nothing new, the whole situation around Zoya's deportation, the immigration officer coming home, and the story of the proposal in the precap for Monday were copied from Sandra Bullock's movie The Proposal. The idea of deportation has no risk, happens and has been done many times. What is an issue is the copying of the scenes from the Proposal. Changing the dialogues a little doesn't make it any less of a copy in legal terms.
CVs, Gul described in the interview that you guys sat around brainstorming about the writing. While that scene is very nice, could you NOT have borrowed it from someone else's work?
Do you know what would happen if they sued you? You couldn't afford to fight against Sandra Bullock. Really expected better. Now many will flip out that I am being negative but the truth is the truth and if I didn't hold the CV team to a high standard, I would not have been disappointed. And I like this show a lot too, apart from the all knowing villains. I think it really picked up recently. They could have done the deportation thing without taking from someone else. I know the PH can do better. They have before.
And it may be a very small show compared to a Hollywood superstar but her company takes this stuff very seriously. As does all of Hollywood. How many warnings has Bollywood had in the past few years? They paid huge fines too, let's not forget. Gul's PH should stop right now and carry this on with their own brains rather than stealing someone else's work.
"Inspiration" or paraphrasing are pretty words for plagiarism. Let's call it what it is - STEALING.
VIDEOS, this is the proposal story I am talking about which will show you why I feel this way about the precap. Other scenes will also show you the parallels. The dialogues are not the same but you will see the similarities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWCSy02IyOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0XDAhOABg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf_rthHQSRU
Mary.
I am sure the moderators can decipher between what is bashing and what is criticism.
As Zoya Akter said, you know it when you do it. So this is on the CVs' conscience. If they feel any guilt, then they will know they have borrowed a tad bit too much. If they don't, then they can sleep peacefully with the thought that they were "inspired." Just like they think that dwarfism is something funny to be laughed it through comedic scenes. Hey, that too has been done before, so who cares how hurtful it is to people who suffer from dwarfism?
I was asking the CVs, don't know why members are getting so offended I said something negative about their beloved show. Last time I checked, this was a free-thinking forum much like IPK.
The dialogue is - room full of flowers with him kneeling in the middle and he suggested no, he was standing. The bickered in the same way too. The dog in park talk harked back to Kal Ho Na Ho a little, but that was dissimilar enough not to be plagiarism.
Not very original to talk of flowers and kneeling, you may add, but the dialogue in the movie is word for word the same. That shows that the movie was definitely used. It's not like the PH is not capable of writing a romantic scene on their own, they wrote that beautiful full circle scene with Asad remembering how he first saw her. So why the need to copy dialogues and scenes from another movie? You can write a deportation inquisition without copying another writer's work. Really.
Mary.
Yesterday's post:
While deportation is nothing new, the whole situation around Zoya's deportation, the immigration officer coming home, and the story of the proposal in the precap for Monday were copied from Sandra Bullock's movie The Proposal. The idea of deportation has no risk, happens and has been done many times. What is an issue is the copying of the scenes from the Proposal. Changing the dialogues a little doesn't make it any less of a copy in legal terms.
CVs, Gul described in the interview that you guys sat around brainstorming about the writing. While that scene is very nice, could you NOT have borrowed it from someone else's work?
Do you know what would happen if they sued you? You couldn't afford to fight against Sandra Bullock. Really expected better. Now many will flip out that I am being negative but the truth is the truth and if I didn't hold the CV team to a high standard, I would not have been disappointed. And I like this show a lot too, apart from the all knowing villains. I think it really picked up recently. They could have done the deportation thing without taking from someone else. I know the PH can do better. They have before.
And it may be a very small show compared to a Hollywood superstar but her company takes this stuff very seriously. As does all of Hollywood. How many warnings has Bollywood had in the past few years? They paid huge fines too, let's not forget. Gul's PH should stop right now and carry this on with their own brains rather than stealing someone else's work.
"Inspiration" or paraphrasing are pretty words for plagiarism. Let's call it what it is - STEALING.
VIDEOS, this is the proposal story I am talking about which will show you why I feel this way about the precap. Other scenes will also show you the parallels. The dialogues are not the same but you will see the similarities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWCSy02IyOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0XDAhOABg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf_rthHQSRU
Mary.
I am sure the moderators can decipher between what is bashing and what is criticism.
As Zoya Akter said, you know it when you do it. So this is on the CVs' conscience. If they feel any guilt, then they will know they have borrowed a tad bit too much. If they don't, then they can sleep peacefully with the thought that they were "inspired." Just like they think that dwarfism is something funny to be laughed it through comedic scenes. Hey, that too has been done before, so who cares how hurtful it is to people who suffer from dwarfism?
I was asking the CVs, don't know why members are getting so offended I said something negative about their beloved show. Last time I checked, this was a free-thinking forum much like IPK.
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