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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: e_enigma

Neither slap needs to be justified. I mean, I get it, once in a while, a mother might slap its child - but that has proved to have no positive conditioning. So, in my opinion, it was wrong for Zoya to get slapped just as it was wrong for Asad to get slapped. Read some studies, negative conditioning has no positive effects. So please people, don't think that anyone has a 'right' to hit anyone...even if they are a parent.


yeah, its totally okay to not be partial to any one of them! and both are obviously not the 'right thing to do' as physical trauma never helped achieved anything as you rightly said!

and if one's partial, one has their own reasons...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: hirie


no, not the whole get lost part, but to be more sensitive! so if you think you were the only one who could be aggressive in your comments, then its good someone spoke up! perhaps you were hurting their sentiments and in turn you got hurt too when they spoke up

so thats why its important to refrain from personal judgement and also to discuss things in a healthy way as we're on a public platform and discussing something that happened in a daily soap!


What was there to like in that post? It was offensive? I didn't make any personal judgement, so what are you accusing me off?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: hirie


lets not get personal here raniroxx and laila! ... everyone, just calm down!


I did not get personal with anyone in this comment. I believe that this post is Rainiroxx's not mine.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34
OH nonononono...this is not a good topic. Seriously this slap thing cannot be discussed with out drama and people judging each other. Its best to leave it alone :/
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Posted: 12 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: e_enigma


So I don't follow you or anything(pretty new to this show), but I saw some of your posts here, and honestly..bravo. You can hold your own. I applaud you. I tots agree with you btw.


Thank you. It's not easy to hold your own around here when you're in the minority. But thanks again...there are some good people who have my back. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: hirie

if we were really to be stern and implicate the ZOYA-SLAP as "NOT JUSTIFIED" then i'm afraid by international standards, even a mother slapping a son is not justified, as it would be classified as child abuse!

exactly then both is not right


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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: hirie

if we were really to be stern and implicate the ZOYA-SLAP as "NOT JUSTIFIED" then i'm afraid by international standards, even a mother slapping a son is not justified, as it would be classified as child abuse!



They are both not justified and in fact in my opinion Dilshaad failed as a mother yesterday when she chose to trust a man (Rashid) who has brought nothing but grief and lies to her children. What happened to the strong woman Dilshaad was portrayed to be? All I saw yesterday was a weak, love-sick puppy who has blind faith in a man who cheated on her and is a criminal. And i request nobody argue the point that Rashid is innocent because he IS NOT! The man did not murder someone but he is an accomplice to it and an arsonist. So, Asad was well within his rights to have him arrested. Plus could Dilshaad not see the absolute emotional anguish Asad was in. Shouldn't her first priority be her SON'S mental and emotional state?? 😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38
Not condoning either slap. Slapping is not the way to solve problems. Just want to point out one vital difference between Zoya's slap versus Asad's. Zoya was slapped by someone much stronger than her physically. There's no way she could retaliate and win. Jahanpanah 6 pack can send his mother flying if wants to. I know this is taking the situation out of context. But it's fairly true. That said, let me state that Dilshad should not have slapped Asad and I found her completely stupid in that scene.

Also I read on the earlier posts that Razia is bad too and why are her evil tendencies spared. This is bizarre. Razia IS the bad guy. Bad guys do bad things. Such is life. But when good guys do bad things or becomes mainstream. So Razia slapping/threatening to kill someone not nearly as bad as Asad slapping Zoya. Fact.

Oh, and I find it bizarre that is a blanket ban on slap discussion. It's like living in Saudi Arabia. Terrible thing it says about what people find palatable as entertainment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: wordywoman11

Not condoning either slap. Slapping is not the way to solve problems. Just want to point out one vital difference between Zoya's slap versus Asad's. Zoya was slapped by someone much stronger than her physically. There's no way she could retaliate and win. Jahanpanah 6 pack can send his mother flying if wants to. I know this is taking the situation out of context. But it's fairly true. That said, let me state that Dilshad should not have slapped Asad and I found her completely stupid in that scene.

Also I read on the earlier posts that Razia is bad too and why are her evil tendencies spared. This is bizarre. Razia IS the bad guy. Bad guys do bad things. Such is life. But when good guys do bad things or becomes mainstream. So Razia slapping/threatening to kill someone not nearly as bad as Asad slapping Zoya. Fact.

Oh, and I find it bizarre that is a blanket ban on slap discussion. It's like living in Saudi Arabia. Terrible thing it says about what people find palatable as entertainment.


Love everything you wrote and have been trying to say the same thing multiple times but tragically no-one understands. And I agree with you about the blanket ban but that's how this forum operates. It is primarily applicable to those who bring up posts like yourself or that speak out against the slap per se. Apparently those who do are considered unable to get over it and ruining the entertainment/show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: hirie


yes, so they showed how asad was sorry after he realized what he'd done was wrong, esp. the whole slapping part. they also showed how someone can be left tormented after such a scene when zoya covered her face while asad was trying to talk to her and she thought he was going to hit her again.

so its not like its gone completely unnoticed and asad thinks it was justified. think the story took care of the whole slapping incident. so wouldnt regard that as much of a moral/social responsibility to rectify in the soap re the whole slapping incident


The media is a very powerful source of socialization and if you've taken the time to study basic Sociology and Psychology, you will know that there are plenty of studies to telling us that what people see on television and form and reinforce certain ideas and opinions. Therefore to just say this is a fictional show and no-one including the public have no right to speak out is in itself a form of censorship and tragically a rather dangerous approach to take.

Laila,

What idea does one get while watching Asad slapping Zoya?

The only idea we all get is that Asad slapped Zoya in anger...it is a flaw in his character.No one praises him for it. And I bet even you won't take random person who hits out at another person in even road rage to the police station. I guess you'd rather try to settle things between thh two parties, as a mediator.

So also, if you see a brother hitting a sister, when he finds she is using drugs...would you bring him to book? You wouldn't be able to justify his action, but it does not warrant a strong action.

It is the same we feel with Asad and Zoya.
It looked like she threatened his Ammi's life with her actions...so he reacted. He does not have to go to jail for it.

Similarly, for Dilshad , Asad has made a very SERIOUS ACCUSATION against his dad without waiting to hear HIS SIDE OF THE STORY...the wife hit out, because she feared for her husband...

The mother hit out because she realised her son was one-track minded...he was putting other people's lives in danger here...esp when she knows how dangerous Rashid's situation actually is...

Do you seriously feel that any girl out there will take the message that it is good to keep silent when someone hits you...wife beating thrives because the women are scared to respond. Zoya definitely did not give any of us that message.

Please don't underrate the women or girls who are watching the show...

You can speak out...NO PROBLEM.

You can say that you don't like to see a woman getting slapped by a man...and I can say that item songs in movies are misleading our youth...I simply feel I have a more valid point...you don't have to agree with me.😊

Wanted to explain th eroad rage..

Suppose a biker tries to overtake a family in a car and endangers the family. The father gets out of the car and slaps the biker...would you take the dad to Police?
Edited by chicksoup - 12 years ago

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