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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: tvbug2011

Hi Laila, Thanks for sending a letter of complaint to BCCC. I may not have helped draft it, but I'd like to think that it speaks for me too. I am so glad that some start has been made to push back this tide of abuse/chauvinism against women and female regression. I hope that in some small way it will raise a sense of responsibility in production houses, so that they think twice before they try to romanticise violence against women again, and realise their larger responsibility towards society. I hope the journalists you have sent it to use it in some way in their publications. And even if the letter is not published or sparks a wider artice, I hope that any QH producers/staff who happen to browse through IF as they usually do, will read this post and realise that they have a moral responsibility to their viewers. Small though this may be, I hope that this is the start of something big.


Thank you for your support. I really feel that television is such a powerful medium that can do so much good for our society. If used well it can send the right message to people in the form of entertainment and help do so much for the country and of course women in general. Enough studies have show that the media is a very powerful form of social control hence PH have a huge responsibility in what they show.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Pop Princess

Excellent letter even though i don't completely agree with it...I'm one of the ones who don't think the hoo-hah that occured after the slap was necessary...
However i have discussed enough about the slap...to the point that any more further discussion will make me want to slap myself..
🤣.

I respect your views and each to their own to be fair...so once again...I hope you receive a response for all your efforts...😊


Love the pun...I am sure there are some members who want to do the same to me😆

And thank you for your support.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mijanur


those who lives at glass house should not throw stones at others.

coming from a forum where male lead twisting female lead,mentaly torture her,marry her by blackmailing now you people are giving us ghayan about adding romantic angle on violance.
can i know how many times you people write to bccc for the previous show where violance give romantic look according to their fan.i want to know it.
aren't your people previous show was based on relationship
on violance.
why the double standard.
and the slap scene was anything but not romantic.
you people say you are violance against woman.
than why zoya burried alive wasn't touch you.razia deframing humaira don't touch you.
now you say in that case guilty was negative character.
so what are you people stand up violance against woman issue or violance against woman by positive character.
in reality its the negative people who do violance against woman so will you keep quite there also.
its double standard.
and asad was not a white character he is a grey character.
and what about rashid
they show how a husband cheating a wife on pregnant stage.
than leave her with two kid.
why that issue don't touch you people.
dilshad is in pain for 17 years but why that does not touch you people.
don't you think cheating with your pregnant wife is a very inhuman act and its greater problem than a slap.
and let me remind you rashid was shown as positive character than why you people silent on him.
why single out asad.
so you people's double standard fource us to think other way.
you people's intention in that forum does not seems positive.
a common link of you people with a forum which recently go off air is also very much noticed by us.
and the way you people dragging a issue to bash a single character.
make us smell some myesterious about you people activity in our forum
the forum belongs to the fan of qubool hai only in true sense.
a forum survived,exist because of the love of the fan for show.


It sounds to me you are upset that we reported the slap to the BCCC. If the slap did not bother you then of course it would be a problem that we reported it. Bringing up other issues are not of concern as these do not depict violence towards women or behaviors deemed as acceptable. We did not find the slap justifiable or acceptable as had a number of members on this forum hence the reason we made the report. We also felt the aftermath was not acceptable either. We are well within our rights to do this as long as we provide justification for our actions which we did. If you feel the incidences that you have brought up are far more harmful or dangerous then you are welcome to do the same and we will provide you with the email.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: princessjojo

Well done Laila. That's a great step on your part. Do let us know if you hear anything back from anyone. I won't be surprised if this turns into something big/influential.

To everyone else, let people exercise their freedom of speech and expression. Laila has not harmed anyone, she is only trying to create awareness.

I, for one, am not staunchly against the slap. To me it was a matter between an emotionally volatile son who was on the verge of losing his mother and a possible suspect (who does not have the most credible track record) behind the turn of events. Still, fact is I did not like it- he did overstep his boundaries.

What I am staunchly against is the pathetic apology, Asad's ability to still look her in the eye and him constantly shoving her around be it back during the ambulance episode or more recently. What I further detest is Zoya's ability to so quickly rebound and behave as if nothing happened. I detest the lack of self respect shown. In real life, this would make for a very pathological love relationship.

So if someone is finally making an effort to speak up, let them. It has to start somewhere and it so happens that the show is QH. It does not mean that the TM is on a personal agenda of sabotaging someone.

There have been studies that show that the more smoking youth view in movies, the more likelihood that they engage in it. So, such things do matter. The media, factual and fictional, has tremendous influence in effecting change. Not every youngster watches TV/movies with a discerning eye.


Thank you for your support. Could not have done it without your help. I hope that the PH does read this and realizes that not all viewers were happy.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mijanur

@Rupnzel people don't get influenced either by villen or hero of a hindi tv serial.
it was showing tulsi kills mom in law,son.
it show parvati send her grand son to jail.
it showing kashis marry four times and his 3rd husband,4th husband married her sisters.
it shows manav gets slapped by 10times by mom in law and 3 times by archana when he was not guilty.
i don't see any of those happen reality
people know its not for real and its fiction.

and i wanted to know why the same people don't send bccc for their previous show which gives romantic angle to violance.

seconed thing mother means earth for asad.
a mother who is also his father.
apert from mother and sister who is own for asad.
nobody do you understand how much insecurity he has.
but still i am saying asad does a wrong thing by slapping zoya.
i also mentioned in if posts it could better if they avoid it.
i also make a thread about asad should not taunt zoya about parents.

but you people are too much taking a scene with real life and dragging the issue 8-9 days and saying same thing on 20thread.what is the point of too much repeatation.do you have anything new to say.

its not a normal behaviour.so we found this behaviour is very suspicious.

and yes you people single out asad.
why you people don't say anything about dilshad pain.
how rashid cheated his pregnant wife.
why it don't touch you.
cheating on a pregnant wife is not so important for you than a slap.
and wait are not rashid a positive character.
so why you people don't say anything about rashid.
you fail to answer that ques.

and romancing of lead couple will be revelent till last episode of qh.

but do you want to shouting about slap( which happend in one episode ) till last episode.
how illogical the comparision.

you also can't deny the common link of you people which i mentioned.
which makes the intenion of you people very much suspicious


Ma'am we have repeated ourselves several times that we are not targeting anyone. Please do read our responses. Thank you. Slap fests in general are examples of poor quality writing and we will address these when the times comes. We also hope you will too. Also, once again your post justifies the slap and we do not support it hence the reason behind the post. If you feel it was justified, please feel free to write to BCCC and let them know that it is was OK in your view. You might be able to write a joint response with other members of the forum who agree with you.

And no, we do not have any ulterior motives.

Thank you
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: narangi314

okaaay, so finally read through the 45 pages...and my brain hurts!! 😆


We clearly have a problem with logic here.

Let's look at an analogy shall we?

An analogy, acc to wikipedia is: is a cognitive process of transferring information or meaning from a particular subject (the analogue or source) to another particular subject (the target), and a linguistic expression corresponding to such a process. In a narrower sense, analogy is an inference or an argument from one particular to another particular.

So, to the analogy:

What if when Indians began to agitate for independence, the British told us "Why didn't you object to us when we first arrived in the 1600s? Why didn't you object about the Dutch? Why didn't you object about the Portugese? Why don't you object to the colonization of Africa? Why didn't you object the viking invasion of england?.. ...See? See? You didn't right? So shut up and stop agitating now"

Do you see how spurious this logic is?????

How does NOT objecting to a previous incident of violence/aggression on this show or indeed any other show negate/undermine the need to object NOW. Surely it makes it only all the more important.

I'd also like to ask you once more to refer to the definition of an analogy...I am NOT equating the objection to the slap with the objection to colonialism...Just in case anyone has any doubts on that score.

Hope that helps!

Cheers!


I know..it is like why didn't you complain about this and this and this...seriously it's really just a way of expressing "how dare you" and "I really don't care" and "I can't believe you're trying to hurt our show" and "how could you bring up what we don't want to be reminded off because if we are then we won't be able to accept Asad and Zoya together." Beating me up is not going to change the truth. I just hold a mirror up and no-one likes what they see.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rendezvousvin


Slapping is violence and that was a violent backhanded slap that caused her to fall into a tea urn. Sorry bout it also falls into the definition of physical abuse and abusive behaviors are categorized as violent - not me saying - all the experts, books and literature. And friendships are not based on violence...those are unhealthy.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rendezvousvin


That's exactly my point.. as defined by WHO violence is and intentional use of physical force or power against a person, a group or a community. And the slap here was not intentional it happened out of rage and when a person was emotionally weak. Its no violence, its just a slap... and people are only concerned about the women getting slapped not the men getting slapped by women.

on a personal note are you the same Asma from the DMG forum?


Of course it was intentional! He was angry and wanted to hurt her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Thank you for speaking and standing up for womenfolk. At every opportunity ,we need it.
Please ladies , girls, and women try to understand. The media goes along way. If you were to step out of your bubbles and look hard at the world around you , you will thank the people who had organised that letter!
Yes , so far I have watched only a few shows because its difficult for me to see such abuse. Ipkknd was one show that showed a ruthless man. Madhubala at the moment has its lead destroying a woman in any which way he can. Sigh!
And now to QH. I am truly sorry to say that nearly every woman there has been belittled. Zoya was buried! Humeira was nearly forced into marriage, Dilshad was thrown out by husband and his brother in law seem to think that it is his right to demean her.
So the hope of a man loving and respecting women fell on poor Asads shoulders. Yes, he was angry and frightened but we depended on him to be the sane male. With that slap , it was a very unfortunate let down. AND that is why all the hoo and hah were heard as a scream!
And thanks to this forum of educated, independant women ---who has made time to protest--we saw more regret and shame from the hero yesterday. That scene was well done and enacted well by the talented KSG.
Believe me this PH [ unfortunately headed by a female} seemed to think it was ok for a man to rough up a woman. I watched her last show with dismay. You are already seeing how she depicts lack of respect for women in this show. You do not want to see more bad boys.
As I said , TV shows goes a long way. we have too many young boys watching this and thinking that it is ok to be nasty, Worse , we have too many young girls thinking that this is what romance is about. So please, whether the letter is a pebble in the pond or a rock in the ocean , it was a deed WELL DONE
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: iqbal-pallavi

That was beautifully written Laila, and you penned down what many of us thought flawlessly. Hopefully something is done about this and hopefully these girls realise what they are supporting and what they are romanticizing.


And to people who think this is going over-board, to each their own but I personally think what Laila is doing is right because if some one doesn't start taking a stand no one's going to know to take a stand and people are going to continue to brush the issue of violence under the rug like it's nothing, when it bloody well is something.


Thank you 😊 Done with your support. I just hated that people had to use this thread to turn it into a stupid pro-slap defense and then we had to go back and repeat ourselves over and over again...what was worse is they do not get that the romanticizing was the apology...that's how much education is needed.

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