Edited:Issue of marriage triangle of Ayan,Asad&Zoe - Page 8

Originally posted by: Ksgian4lyf

I totally agree with youuu!!! :)

Thanks a lot dear.I'm happy to see that you understood my point of view.

Originally posted by: mijanur

You raise many important points.
thats good.

1st i am tired to see ksg as 2nd husband of his wife in every show.i want to see change that time.

2nd this ph house allready apply this formula in geet.
so viewer will try to compare it with geet.
i don't want it.

3rd cv may change track depending on trp.
but sometime a track can damage so much harm that it means the end nothing can save the show even after change the track.

you talk about dmg.
you know what happend after tringle track and dmage.

i don't want to see such damage for qh

Thanks a lot Bro.
😆 I second you in this.I also don't want KSG to be the second husband in this show but I won't get much disappointed as long as we get AsYa together in the end.
Emm Regarding the comparison,I hope this won't happen.I can't say much about it.
You are right.Sometimes the new tracks bring disastrous results and lead to closing down of the show.I hope CVs may be careful in going ahead with the love triangle.
I know what a huge mess the love triangle created but that happened coz it was not needed at all in the show and CVs deceived AR fans the last moment by giving them hopes about Armaan's return but eventually getting Ridz married to Sid.
I hope this triangle may not create such a huge discontentment among the audience.
I also don't want ASYA to get separated but I'm ready to bear all the tortures for KSG and QH's strong storyline.

Originally posted by: crazy4KASH_AR

My responses to you are below:

POINT 1
I can't change your point of view if you have decided to believe that my post is directed at you.I simply wished to broaden the horizon of the people who were a little bit apprehensive about this issue and you by chance happen to be one of them.

What's the difference between trying to broaden my horizons and not change my point of view? 😉

There is no difference between the two.I simply tried to show the other side of the coin to some people who were till now looking at just one side only.Some of them understood my point of view while some like you don't.If you are not ready to see things with a different perspective,I can do nothing about this.There is no harm in having different point of views dear.

You tried to sell an idea; some people bought it while others like myself don't. It's simply. It has nothing to do with not having a broad mind here, it has everything to do with you and I having a different value system.

POINT 2

My dear friend I'm also a Muslim and my mum's friend was also a Muslim.The marriage is completely halaal in Islam.So please don't say that such things don't happen in Muslim families.

So what if it is halal in Islam for a man to have marry have sex with a woman and then divorce her so his brother can marry her. Some religious leaders in Islam have said it is OK for a man to marry the daughter whom he has adopted because they are not blood related, but does that also make it OK for you? I find that GROSS. There are also those who say it is acceptable for a girl 9 or older to be married to an old man, are you also OK with it? Just because it's a halaal means nothing to me.

By the way, your mother's friend, did she marry the other brother while the other brother was alive? Would she have done that? And why did she marry the brother? Did she fall in love or did she have children and didn't have a choice? I am curious.

I don't understand why you cite examples which have no relation to the matter of discussion.All I wanted to say was that this thing is allowed in Islam and almost all the religions.My mom's friend had a baby girl and her husband died.Her in-laws and parents got her bro-in-law married to her.

Then let me help you here; just because it's "halal" does not make it something I will agree too. A lot of people regardless of their viewpoints would not stomach certain things that would be deemed as halal. And btw, with your mom's friend's example, one of the brother's was dead! That's typically when this practice is done. In QH, both brothers will be alive. Second, they did this because they wanted to "keep the girl" and the "baby" in the family as a form of "welfare." I think you are quite young to understand this cultural practice.

POINT 3

What is so wrong,weird, yucky and immoral about this track?

Plenty. In your world this might be quite acceptable, but in the world of others including the liberal west where I live, this is not accepted. We have Jerry Springer episodes meaning this is considered not acceptable.

I would request you not to talk about the liberal west because we all know how many marriages happen and break within months along with so many extramarital affairs.I understand that this thought might not be acceptable to you but calling it yucky and immoral is not right at all.when a thing is socially and religiously allowed,we should atleast try to respect the societal norms even if we don't like the idea or don't approve it.

Hold on! You are not in any position to tell me what I can and cannot bring up as an example to make my point. In fact based up on your comments, we do not accept these things in the west even with our liberal attitude. We find it yucky, immoral and not right. Just because someone accepts something as socially or religiously OK in their mind, does not mean we have to accept it. Says WHO?

Cousin marriage is accepted in Islam, but do you know now that in the UK there is a movement to ban this practice? In the US it is illegal in some states to marry your cousin? Just because it is an acceptable practice actually shows that is is NOT good both emotionally and physically for people.

Again, just because something is viewed as "religiously OK" does not make it acceptable in the eyes of everyone or should be accepted. Are we so blind that we follow like sheep?

POINT 4

Zoya will first get divorced and them only marry Asad.She is not two-timing the two brothers.

It doesn't matter - if she loves one brother and/or has sex with him; she's married to him and if she sex with him, it's even worse.

Why is it worse yaar?Just because they are half-brothers.
What is so gross about it?Don't you think you are getting a little more hyper? Zoya won't commit a crime if she marries Asad after divorcing Ayaan.She has full right to settle in her life again.

Again, it doesn't matter if she is not two-timing brothers. The fact that she is marrying one and having sex with him and then marrying another and then having sex with him is a terrible practice for the brother's relationship and that of Zoya's with them. It is totally dysfunctional and disturbing a practice.

POINT 5.

By your psychology should I conclude that if Zoe marries Ayaan, sleeps with him,gets divorced and then marry a stranger you'll be fine and have no issues?

No issues there.

I don't understand this logic at all.

Then heaven help if you cannot see the difference in her marrying a stranger versus Ayaan's brother. Your inability to understand this means you do not understand anything I am saying.

POINT 6.

Why is this concept not creative?Infact I would say it would be quite creative and would change the mentality of some people who think that a girl remains no more acceptable for another man if she sleeps with one man.Zoe won't commit a crime if she sleeps with Ayaan who would be her husband.
If sleeping with a man was soo bad then divorces and re-marriages must have never been socially,legally and religiously acceptable.

It's not just ANY man, it's his brother.

So what if Asad is Ayaan's brother.Everything is fair in love and war.Love has no control over anyone.If AsYa are meant to be together,,they will definitely unite in the end.It hardly matters if Zoe marries his brother first or not.

If the writers' want to do it, that does not mean I have to accept it or tolerate it as OK or acceptable. The writer's are not God that whatever they write that goes against my value system I must accept. I have a mind of my own.

POINT 7

You have your own point of view and I've mine. I respect your sentiments and understand that you are not in a position to digest this track.For you it may be a mockery of relationships and marriage but for me I think this would strengthen AsYa's love bond even more and bring them closer and also Ayaan's sacrifice for his brother's happiness will make me respect the sibling bond more than ever before.

Two brothers having sex with a woman strengthens their relationship? Great. 😆 And Asad and Zoya will be even closer as a result? Great, then all women should go ahead and marry the brother of the man they marry, have sex with them and then divorce them because that will help make their love stronger. I love the logic😕🤣

Why are you so much focused upon sex issue?We have not got a confirmation in the synopsis that Ayaan n Zoe will be husband and wife in all senses.Why don't you wait till the story unfolds?
You are just looking at a very narrow matter.The distance between Asad and Zoya will bring their hearts closer and their realize that they just can't live without each other.They'll crave for each other being apart and this is how their love will grow stronger when they unite later.Ayaan will sacrifice his feelings for Zoya and back off from mending his relationship with Zoe once he knws that Asad loves Zoya.So,this is definitely going to make me love Ayaan more.

Because THAT is the whole point of this argument that this is most likely going to happen. It is bad enough that she falls in love with both brothers and then marries both of them and then has sex with one and then the other? What is there to wait for a story to unfold? They've already given it to us in the Zee Synopsis. If it was not, don't you think they'd have pulled it by now? It is pretty serious matter I am looking at. Enough that it not welcome by a lot of people. And now there are some like you, who don't want it but are forcing yourself and others to swallow it because you like the existing jodi? Why? I'm baffled that you are so easily swayed to accept something like this?

Distance can make the heart grow fonder, but marrying the guy's brother, loving with him and having sex with him? Give me a break. Who are you trying to fool?

POINT 8

We have completely different psychologies and we have full right to differ on that.
I don't wish to engage in any controversies.I take your point that you can't tolerate this track.I wish you may gather the patience to hook on the show if God forbid this track happens.

Inshallah, since you love the idea of this track so much, I pray to Allah that you get your wish, that Ayaan marries Zoya, she loves him and they have sex and divorce and she ends up with Asad afterwards. After all, you don't find it awkward and actually think it will be great and creative idea. 😉

As I've made myself clear that I don't want this marriage to happen,I won't repeat the same again.But yes I'm ready for this track if by chance we get to see this in future.

If you don't like it, then why are you embracing and defending it? You cannot even WANT this track, that means you haven't accepted it yourself. You're just trying to convince yourself that it is OK and hoping you can round up some moral support and reassurance.

POINT 9

All I wished to request is that there is no point in getting hyper about the future.We can be a little more patient and let the CVs unfold what they have instore for us.

But what if I know something about the storyline and how it's going to probably unfold? 😃

But do you have 100% confirmation that the storyline won't change as per the public demand?Have u never seen PH changing their mindset once they know what audience approves and what irks them the most? We can make all the protests and calls when we get the confirmation about this track.Till now Zoe and Ayaan have not even met and the panic on the forum is creating so much confusion.I would suggest to have a little more patient and atleast let Zoe and Ayaan meet each other and become friends before we can have all the speculations and discontentment.

Again, you will be VERY surprised. 😉 to whom I have expressed these views too. The Zeetv Synopsis IS set and the sex part...well, brace yourselves for it. No, they have met and it is going to just be a matter of time. The CVs are going to rely on people like you who, although don't want it, but are willing to swallow this concept and convince others, like you are doing here.

Thanks a lot for sharing your views.It was nice to see this reply on a soft note from your side.
Take care!

I am a very nice person but I have very strong viewpoints about things and if you're going to sell something to me, it better be a very strong and logical argument So far it ain't working😉.

There is no point in arguing over and over again if you have decided to hang on to your beliefs and have pre-decided not to understand any other logic other than what you have framed in your mind.I give up as I said before and let's call it a truce here.
My replies are in green.
Take care!

That's very insulting you to refer to my viewpoint and value system as illogical.

I have made it my general rule to neither ask nor expect anything from 4lions.

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

I have made it my general rule to neither ask nor expect anything from 4lions.

If the track is carried out the right way ie Asad's heartbreak , emotional turmoil etc I'll watch it. Because I think it'll give a great platform to see the actors perform.

If 4lions makes a cluster**** of everything then... well... mere paas remote hai ;P

A very nice and amazing thought dear...
We should expect nothing from 4lions.I've this experience from the previous two shows like you.😆
Go and watch KSG in DMG.You'll cry with him for the heartache he suffered.We all fans cried along with him.Let me warn you.You are going to fall in love with KSG all over again if you see him acting all heartbroken and go through his emotional turmoils.This man is an epitome of perfection.

😆Ofcourse u can change the channel anytime if u can't enjoy a track.

Thanks a lot for sharing ur views dear.

This is 4lions. They will change the storyline for anyone: actor,director,audience,chai wala etc

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

This is 4lions. They will change the storyline for anyone: actor,director,audience,chai wala etc

Jokes apart.

I would also like to say that 4lions has a very talented creative's set.

Before judgement I think we need to give this show a little bit of time.

BTW whose bright idea was this synopsis thing? Everyone knows daily soaps don't plan beyond 2 episodes :D

Zee tv put up this synopsis on their wall of QH on their website.
I also wonder why they did so.Nothing is ever fixed in the show.
4 lions do have an amazing creative set.Till now they have raised my hopes from them even more regarding the show.
QH is just amazing.

I M 100% SURE THEY R NOT GONNA SHOW AYAAN N ZOE'S MARRIAGE IR MIGHT COME TO THAT ,THAT DVERBODY TALKS ABOUT THEIR MARRIAGE BUT THEY WILL NOT GET TOGETHER DUE TO SOME REASONS( WHATEVER THET WOULD BE)

Originally posted by: DiamondLife

what is zoya's age🤔

ayaan is 5 years younger than asad..

zoya looks elder than ayaan🥱

😆 🤣 Thanks for the laugh. Difference in Age ...or how old Zoya looks is least of my problem with them getting married.

side-note: It would have been awesome if Zoya was shown to be older !!!.. and why not ? Love can be at any age. but then I guess desi soaps have a looong way to go 😃

For a fictional show, that I watch to be entertained it would not not hold my interest if Ayaan and Zoya marry (regardless of whatever brilliant track CVs or Ms Gul come up with... Gul ki baatein..Gul hi jaane ). If they just show hints of attraction, even Ayaan admitting and "sacrificing" 🤢 his love for the bro... I would watch... (though wonder if the actor would be able to do full justice to the display of involved conflicts !! KSG and Zoya will rock though )

If they show marriage.. I will move on. ,..I can only stomach so much of ever-present triangles 😆. Not gonna waste time for an un-necessary angle introduced (in my opinion) and it would make me bolt. remote kis din kaam aayega 😆


@TM Hope you don't mind me responding to a post in your thread.
Also, I am quite impressed by how calmly you respond to posts. This was interesting post to read and I enjoyed reading all responses. It's always so nice to see different perspectives and discussions. nicely done 👏

I don't have a big problem with their marriage. Do I want it? No. It's not my preference. But I'm okay with it because it will be cause for some fantastic drama (if they do it right of course). The only thing I have an issue with is possible consummation. That mainly because I don't like Ayaan with Zoya and Rishabh with Surbhi. There's zero romantic chemistry. I'm extremely picky about the actors I like and if they don't have my two point criteria (good looks + acting) then I'm not sold. Rishabh and thus Ayan leave a lot to be desired from my end. I don't want him cozying up to our lovable Asad's Zoe (puke worthy).

Other than that I'm all set to watch this unfold. KSG and Surbhi will shine for sure.