Constructive Criticism because I care - Page 3

Originally posted by: adeeti10

Hey there,

Seems from your post like you work with/ for the show or are connected some way. Are you? If so, keep the good work, and aim for greatness!

I agree that it's a fictional show... And there's such a thing as creative liberty. But it could be stretched a little less sometimes 😉

Ups and downs can be shown without showing character inconsistencies... Or to help drag it for years, we could perhaps get an insight into why a certain character takes a certain action... Like yesterday when Razia talks about what is at stake if Nikhat doesn't get married to Imran. We know it is a drama, and I might be in a minority here but A little realism wouldn't hurt 😊

I agree that no character can be portrayed as logical because in life no one is logical at all times. But let's show why they behave the way they do... I'd love to know why Rashid suddenly feels the need to reach out to his first wife 17 years later... What Dilshad feels about this... I liked that they showed it initially and it would be good to explore further...

Asad is a grey character... Agreed. He is not perfect... And shouldn't be. So no issues there 😊

Character spacing out is essential especially in long soap/ dramas and that's why it's important to allow side characters to evolve... The context for najma was set... And I'm going to give it time... Like you said it's just started, early days!

I'm not sure if I am reading more into it... But isn't constructive criticism welcome? I got a sense it wasn't in this case... But I could be wrong.

As for the bit about appreciation, I think the very fact that this is just one post among so many appreciation threads and show inspired fan fictions is evidence enough that this show is being lapped up by most of the audience... 👏Just like appreciation won't do harm, a little critique shouldn't hurt either - would be nice if its taken positively. 😊

But yes, we hear ya... So here's a big shout out to the cast and crew! Fab job folks, for most part... 👏

Originally posted by: princessjojo

A good topic. I'm amazed by how unwelcome criticism is on these forums-so what if CVs and actors visit the forum-as long as we are not slandering them on a personal level, constructive criticism should be welcome. I've said it before too: when an artist puts his work on display for the public, he or she absolutely has to be ready for positive AND negative comments. That is simply the nature of this field. In fact, with the advent of the internet, if you look around you will find that pretty much everything from airlines to doctors to anything equally unrelated will have appreciation and criticism on the internet.

Thank you for you response. Exactly. Every professional has to be ready for criticism as well as praise. Fans were told by the lead actress of Gul's last show that hundreds of people work hard on the show and therefore people shouldn't ask for the show to shutdown or voice their criticisms and complaints because the people will lose their jobs and her along with her costars "do not want to hear or read the complaints". WHAT kind of mentality is that? I mean Doctors go through hell to complete their education and become licensed physicians and even after all the hard work they are susceptible to getting their licence revoked for malpractice. But Doctors don't tell people to just "deal with it".

On the other hand, coming to the show: There are a lot of things that do not happen in real life the way they happen on the show. That's just the nature of art. It is stretched. However, mild versions of people like Razia exist. Mild versions of meek girls like Nikhat and Najma absolutely do exist. Hypocrisy like Asad's 100% exists which is why I despise aspects of south-asian culture (you may disagree). What I want this serial to show is not really a dispelling of stereotypes-because these stereotypes are very prevalent in many muslim households- what I want it to show is how the characters depart from these stereotypes, how they embrace change, how they adapt a new way of thinking. Because I really do believe that media, fictional or not, has tremendous potential in influencing the masses-it's really not just a show*. What I would hate is if this show went the way of that one show in which a cheated wife still loves her filthy cheater of a husband and stays single even after his death- now THAT is reality, it happens-but I don't want a rehashing of what happens-I want to see change in characters, I want to see empowering of women, as an audience member.
YOU SAID IT . I agree with every word of this paragraph. I want to see how the female characters prove that if a lady WANTS to then she can actually gather the strength and determination to take ana unconventional approach to the problems in life.
Of all the elements in the show, what irks me the most is Asad's hypocrisy-and it irks me because it actually exists in real life. He is a hitler of a brother to Najma, not allowing her to wear western clothes, implementing a 7pm curfew on her, almost treats her like a maid at times, heck he even treats his mom as a maid at times- and look at how he treats Ayaan; a bike as soon as he demands it, constant covering of his careless ways, meets Ayan (thereby breaking the curfew that his family and Ayan's family have set on them), only lovingly smacks him on the head when he eve teases, chases girls and behaves like a disgusting road side romeo (sorry folks, when I meet Ayans in real life, I get put off in miliseconds- I don't see the charm in him and I'm appalled that Humaira gives him the time of the day). Hypocrisy at its very very best. The only saving grace (which is not entirely saving) is that he himself does not indulge in larki patana and such nonsense etc- but that he condones it when it comes to his brother is unforgivable to me as a viewer who is somewhat of a womens' rights enthusiast. Don't want Zoya falling for him until he shows signs of change.
Omg I was amazed at the way he keeps telling his Mom to make coffee for him. It really isn't hard to make coffee by yourself , Asad lol! 😆 and by repeatedly showing him asking his sister or Mom to make Cofee for him, his dominating and bossy nature is just being enhnaced. They must try to Every episode should be a visible effort to show that he is DIFFERENT, and believes in helping himself in the house instead of asking women to take care of household needs. I do not understand why the characters themselves are stereotypical if Gul's words were that she wants to prove the generalizations about Muslims wrong.

*Why a show is not just a show: There was once a serial in which a powerful husband who is duped into marrying a girl starts developing feelings for her. When she pretends to be pregnant, we see that he manhandles her (twists her arm and pulls her closer to him by holding her face with his fingers digging in to her cheeks). She then goes on to fall in love with this one-time bully. Now that's serial life. Ok. But it bothers the hell out of me when I see girls on fanfiction sites including this one, writing stories in which the hero is thrashing his woman-of-interest around-against the wall, on the bed. Angst, introversion, power, frustration, domination can all be attractive in a guy but since when did outright abuse become acceptable? So yes, I do think that serial, books, movies have the power to influence.
Yes, the sad part is that Gul is able to pick good-looking leads and she makes everything seems o magical that young girls start to think that guys who do such things are "hot".And you're right, domination can be attractive at times.However, using that domineering nature to play with a girls' emotions is just insane. Like I said ina areply to someone else,I quit watching her other show becuse I just couldn't understand if the guy really loves her or not. The whole cycle of abuse-love-abuse-love just didn't make sense to me. If this cycle occurs between ANY couple, then in my honest opinion, that's not love.
I hope QH addresses these issues. I hope that when we see Asad change, we also get an insight into his mind-where he is internally discussing the issues/his hypocrisy. I hope that his reasons for change are explained-because, indeed, the audience-both males and females- can potentially take something valuable from it.Absoultely. In this show, I don't care much for the confession scene, I want to see the most romantic apology scene ever because Zoya really deserves it, considering that she could have even been killed or raped in today's episode. I hope we don't see the usual scene where the guy struggles to say "sorry" to the girl after putting her life in danger. They need to put across the message that taking decisions for someone else is not something we should do.

Originally posted by: risingsea101

I feel as if non of Ayaan and Asad sisters have many lines or many scenes, Nuzhrat is rarely shown, why?

Asad has many rules for the women in his house and shouldn't one of them be not meeting a creepy guy alone?

I mean first he hurts Zoya then asked her to go apologize for something as it its all her mistake? Not good

Kidnapping track, waiting for it, but what I'm really waiting for is when Asad realizes what had happened because of him. So much for a bright idea!

*Lets out a deep breath* Maan halka hogaya yaar...thanks for this post😆