Why did Abhay fall for Pia? - Page 5

Originally posted by: Melkor

Hello Ashley. Until I get to know your name I'm just going to stick with addressing you as Ashley😆

I agree with most of the points you have stated. I will begin with TVD. The craze for that show was unparalleled. When I started watching it,I felt I was expected to root for Stelena for what was there to not like in them? But I found myself getting drawn to Delena and shipping them hard because I witnessed the development in their characters as well as in their relationship.As the audience we got to witness the process in which the Salvatore brothers fell out of love with Katherine and ended up finding love in Elena albeit at different points in the story.

As far as Piya is concerned,my problem with her was that her character never depicted any significant development.Rather it regressed as the story moved ahead and we rooted for AbhiYa to be the endgame simply because it is an ITV show and we could not imagine one without the other. An incident that stood out for me was when she discovered that Abhay is a vampire. Her being scared of him as first was understood because she too,was a human,at the end of the day. But how could she not once think with a clear mind that it was the same man who protected her not once but multiple times? And didn't she have her own suspicions about him being a vampire as well? So she should not have been surprised. Also for someone who was supposed to be an "independent" woman,throwing away a paid scholarship along with her chance at education to leave town,was extremely unbecoming. Post leap,her character was distorted beyond recognition. But she wasn't THE worst character of the show. Panchi beat her to it😆

I must say the idea of Abhay with a redeemed T is rather interesting. I never considered it before but as an idea it is rather fascinating. I agree about Alina.She needed to heal before finding a partner who was sensitive enough to understand her.

Anyway I am looking forward to seeing more of you on the thread of Danish's upcoming show.I am excited for it.

Hello again, I like being called Ashley and I enjoy the anonymity so that's my name on the forum 😆

Those early 2000s teen shows like TVD, Gossip Girl, One Tree Hill enjoyed immense popularity and craze. TVD had such an awesome beginning. I liked the chemistry between Stefan and Elena, the signs of teenage love but I, too like you, was drawn to Delena even before they were shown to have any interaction on screen. Reason: the way Ian Somerhalder portrayed Damon. I just knew his dark, bad-boy vibe would complement Elena's good girl energy instantly. I'd also like to state here that Nina managed to create good chemistry with every single male on the show and she portrayed FOUR different characters, each having their own distinction. We did get many flashback episodes showing the brothers falling out of love as well as their exes (like Rebakah).

You are absolutely right about Piya. She went from being an independent, headstrong teenager to a whiny cranky brat who wanted everything on her terms. She ended up playing both Kabir and Jeh, using them as rebound/emotioal coverups. The Piya who stood for the truth for Maya and defended Abhay became an overemotional fool who took all wrong decisions and forced the man she loved to answer all her questions. She even went to far as to manipulate him. Abhay was in love with her so he complied, otherwise imagine if it was another guy who did not reciprocate her feelings.

The incident when she discovered he was a vampire: it just struck me that the writers were using TVD's plotline. Remember when Elena gets scared of Stefan? That's what they did. But did they not realise that Elena knew Stefan for only a few days/weeks, PIya knew Abhay for months and he legit saved her life most of the times. We as viewers did believe in "first love is last love" but honestly, such shows caused me my own issues. I tried to make my toxic relationship work because he was my first. Now that he is gone, I feel so much better. Bur for months I was in the situation, trying to make it work, causing myself mental trauma, emotional pain, weight gain. I do blame all ITV shows for this. At least TVD had the brains to show Elena having three boyfriends: Matt, Stefan and ultimately Damon. That somewhere even teaches the viewers that its not necessary you get it right the first time and that also doesn't mean you are a sl*t.

Panchi had lesser scenes so in re-runs I can still tolerate her 😆 And she lost her mind after the leap, until then she was okay.

Abhay and T would be like a reversed Delena to me, thats why it came to my mind.

I can't wait for Ishq Hai, Danish has already hyped me for the show. He's back doing what he does best and frankly, the god guys get the raw end in the dramas. I'd rather prefer a Sultan to a Shah Jahan! I hope to see you there. 😃

I don't want to argue behind silly things but there were these posts which I didn't like which were I felt was disrespectful towards the leads

Which broke my heart that's y I commented otherwise I hardly comment on baseless topics

Originally posted by: lubnas227

I don't want to argue behind silly things but there were these posts which I didn't like which were I felt was disrespectful towards the leads

Which broke my heart that's y I commented otherwise I hardly comment on baseless topics

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Hello again, I like being called Ashley and I enjoy the anonymity so that's my name on the forum 😆

Those early 2000s teen shows like TVD, Gossip Girl, One Tree Hill enjoyed immense popularity and craze. TVD had such an awesome beginning. I liked the chemistry between Stefan and Elena, the signs of teenage love but I, too like you, was drawn to Delena even before they were shown to have any interaction on screen. Reason: the way Ian Somerhalder portrayed Damon. I just knew his dark, bad-boy vibe would complement Elena's good girl energy instantly. I'd also like to state here that Nina managed to create good chemistry with every single male on the show and she portrayed FOUR different characters, each having their own distinction. We did get many flashback episodes showing the brothers falling out of love as well as their exes (like Rebakah).

You are absolutely right about Piya. She went from being an independent, headstrong teenager to a whiny cranky brat who wanted everything on her terms. She ended up playing both Kabir and Jeh, using them as rebound/emotioal coverups. The Piya who stood for the truth for Maya and defended Abhay became an overemotional fool who took all wrong decisions and forced the man she loved to answer all her questions. She even went to far as to manipulate him. Abhay was in love with her so he complied, otherwise imagine if it was another guy who did not reciprocate her feelings.

The incident when she discovered he was a vampire: it just struck me that the writers were using TVD's plotline. Remember when Elena gets scared of Stefan? That's what they did. But did they not realise that Elena knew Stefan for only a few days/weeks, PIya knew Abhay for months and he legit saved her life most of the times. We as viewers did believe in "first love is last love" but honestly, such shows caused me my own issues. I tried to make my toxic relationship work because he was my first. Now that he is gone, I feel so much better. Bur for months I was in the situation, trying to make it work, causing myself mental trauma, emotional pain, weight gain. I do blame all ITV shows for this. At least TVD had the brains to show Elena having three boyfriends: Matt, Stefan and ultimately Damon. That somewhere even teaches the viewers that its not necessary you get it right the first time and that also doesn't mean you are a sl*t.

Panchi had lesser scenes so in re-runs I can still tolerate her 😆 And she lost her mind after the leap, until then she was okay.

Abhay and T would be like a reversed Delena to me, thats why it came to my mind.

I can't wait for Ishq Hai, Danish has already hyped me for the show. He's back doing what he does best and frankly, the god guys get the raw end in the dramas. I'd rather prefer a Sultan to a Shah Jahan! I hope to see you there. 😃

I believe I would have liked Piya more if she had some agency of her own. Questioning Abhay out of curiosity was one thing but she could have shown some respect for him as an individual and attempted to empathize with him instead of expecting him to cater to every whim of hers. The final straw for me was her attempt to manipulate Abhay by impersonating Maithili. Not only was it unnecessary but insensitive as well.

@bold,PKYEK did borrow elements from both Twilight and TVD but as a writer one needs to understand that while a plotline can be identical,the characterization cannot be ripped off in its entirety. The nuances in characters of adaptations depend on the playwright's creativity as well as the actor's ingenuity. That's why while Elena's reaction to Stefan's truth appeared relatable,Piya's reaction upon finding out about Abhay seemed inconsistent with her character make up. This is why even Maithili's transformation into a villain didn't make sense because she was no Katherine initially.The writers did an excellent job with Abhay. He wasn't Edward,Stefan or Damon but an original character in his own right.Other characters were well written as well. Only the Lord can tell what happened to them when they were writing Piya and post leap Panchi 😆

Ishq Hai's promos have gotten me excited. Danish excels in grey characters which is precisely why I had to drop Meherposh😆 I wasn't over Sultan. Looking forward to discussing Ishq Hai with you.

Originally posted by: lubnas227

I don't want to argue behind silly things but there were these posts which I didn't like which were I felt was disrespectful towards the leads

Which broke my heart that's y I commented otherwise I hardly comment on baseless topics

I dont think anyone is trying to be disrespectful.

The core issue in my opinion is character motivations. Abhay’s core motivation is to not accept piya’s love owing to the fact he is a vampire and piya a human. He stays true to these motivations through out the pkyek no matter who comes or goes. His character also has many discrepancy but this one fact allows us to overlook those discrepancies.

That is not the case with piya. Her true motivation either keeps changing - without consistency - or are not properly defined. Which is why the discrepancies in her character are much more crystal clear and at times annoying. Even if some viewers may not be able to pick out these things individually, they will definitly feel something is off with the characters. And thats all everyone has been trying to pointing out. No one questions the acting suku has done. And in those moments - if you ignore previous or next scnes- she does brilliant job, but when you start to put together it in a form of a overall storyline then it is impossible to ignore those mistakes and there are times when you just start to not like the character development.

There are problems with other characters also but again she is the lead and driving the story ahead hence the inconsistencies in her characters are more irritating. Nobody cares much if in one second T is stupid enough to take her dog for consultation to a pediatrician and in next second is brilliant enough to hatch a plan against piya. That is also not consistent but i don’t care because it has little to no effect on main plot. Its just minor detour.

Originally posted by: Melkor

I miss the good old shows we used to have back then because while the current ones aren't bad at all,they lack the charm of the classic teen shows. It's purely my opinion that while the Netflix originals are fine for a casual binge,their writing lacks the nuances that shows like TVD,OTH or PLL had. Ian Somerhalder as Damon Salvatore is an example of a casting that is no less than flawless. No one could have played Damon apart from him just like there could have been no one else as Klaus apart from Joseph. Nina was a chemistry machine and,shipper or not,one couldn't deny how beautifully she complimented every male character on the show which is what made it fun. I might be in the minority but I used to ship Katerina and Elijah at a point

I believe I would have liked Piya more if she had some agency of her own. Questioning Abhay out of curiosity was one thing but she could have shown some respect for him as an individual and attempted to empathize with him instead of expecting him to cater to every whim of hers. The final straw for me was her attempt to manipulate Abhay by impersonating Maithili. Not only was it unnecessary but insensitive as well.

@bold,PKYEK did borrow elements from both Twilight and TVD but as a writer one needs to understand that while a plotline can be identical,the characterization cannot be ripped off in its entirety. The nuances in characters of adaptations depend on the playwright's creativity as well as the actor's ingenuity. That's why while Elena's reaction to Stefan's truth appeared relatable,Piya's reaction upon finding out about Abhay seemed inconsistent with her character make up. This is why even Maithili's transformation into a villain didn't make sense because she was no Katherine initially.The writers did an excellent job with Abhay. He wasn't Edward,Stefan or Damon but an original character in his own right.Other characters were well written as well. Only the Lord can tell what happened to them when they were writing Piya and post leap Panchi 😆

Ishq Hai's promos have gotten me excited. Danish excels in grey characters which is precisely why I had to drop Meherposh😆 I wasn't over Sultan. Looking forward to discussing Ishq Hai with you.

I guess i am in bottom of the minority when i say i liked those extreme scenes when piya tried to force the truth out of abhay.

I have not watched TVD but I did watch twilight in my teen years. I did not like the way bella found the truth of edward. She heard a legend from a random dude and then read somethings in a small town published book and goes ahead clamining that oh edward you are vampire. I mean come one thats like me saying oh look people claim getting abducted by aliens and there are conspiracy theories and this guys is little wierd he must be alien. And edward too accepta it so easily. I mean he had been hiding this secret for what 100 years and then so easily gave it away to one chick in one dialogue. There are even many memes on that. That is just not convincing enough. On the contrary this journey in case of abhiya is brilliant. Abhay lies soo much to piya about his truth. I am writing book and i did that and used physics and blah blah. Piya also rreads a lot of things but she doesn’t rely on thoeretical knowledge. She starts simple by asking questions and confrontation, then moves to using silver and then progresses to extreme levels to force the truth out by impersonating maithali when abhay found a way out of all these by lying. Yes that is rude and insensitive but when i think about it from logical point of view if i was in her place i would also go to extreme length to see it with my own eyes instead of relying on stories. That is more convincing. (In fact i wondered how abhay did not know it sooner by reading her mind or from her scent. May be too much lost in emotions.) And i believe that is exactly how you know that it was a good story writing ( at least till that point) when you sympathise for a vampiree instead of a human. It makes abhay more grounded and mor likable.

Even piya’s reaction to seeing abhay as vampire. Yes i agree she had been researching and she probably was expecting it in her mind but reality is often different than what you expect. For example i may claim right now that sure i can accept a vampire right now when i am calm and a vampire exist only in theory for me, but if i see him in real life, with actual fangs and those bright blue eyes, i am not sure how i would react. And i think that is what they tried to portray by piya’s reaction. Yes that scene when she tries to wash his touch of is little cringy to watch but i think they are trying to portray she felt dirty in that moment. She is in arms of a vampire - A blood drinkign killer predator. Imagine yourself being in the arms of lion or tiger when they are growling. Her survival instincts have tqken over her entire brain. All logic and emotions is out of the window. She is in fight or flight mode and she chose to flight. Scholarship, educaion, independence such things dont matter when a human’s survival is theeatneed. There are many reql life examples of this when even smartest of people do stupid things when in danger. Thats is why she runs away. But when she sees that abhay did not stop her and instead let her go - “ jana chahti ho tum to jao piya. Bhag jao fir el bar apni problems se”, her brain starts to calm down. Once away from that and out of immediate danger, she is able to think logically again and thats why she pushes the fears aside and decides to come back. That is simply how the human brain works. It must have been difficult on her to push aside those fears. And even abhay’s reaction to seeing her back “uske jane se me usse naraj tha par vo duri me uski yaad kam satati k jitna ab satayegi.” Is brilliant. Staying apart when you are so close is more difficult than stating apart when you are far. And i think both these scenes are very intense and realistic.

I just fell in love with that human side of abhay all over again. It made him human by making him vulnerable. It made him much more likable to me. He is not superman but he is rather batman who can get hurt too even if he doesnt show it. And who better to show it then his lady love. Love and emotions are his cryptonite like chand often points out. Thats how i saw those scenes and i liked them.

PS: i wanted to tag ashley and meghna also in this post to know their opinion but i am not able to.

Yeah there recently were these posts regarding piyas character judgement which I simply didn't like

Thats y 🥴

It's ok if piya has done some mistakes unknowingly she is the one who has realised the most bcoz she truly loved Abhay in all sense

No matter even if her faith frickled with him

Now is there any need to discuss all that it's gone it's over it just happened in 2 to 3 scene where people judge her so much n there were n are soo many post behind such stupid topics which does hurt me n may be many fans in this forum

Even on Instagram that poor girl gets sometimes compared to maithli

Can we just leave her alone 😅

Yeah piya is the best the central character of pkyek followed by Abhay 🔥

Originally posted by: lubnas227

It's ok if piya has done some mistakes unknowingly she is the one who has realised the most bcoz she truly loved Abhay in all sense

No matter even if her faith frickled with him

Now is there any need to discuss all that it's gone it's over it just happened in 2 to 3 scene where people judge her so much n there were n are soo many post behind such stupid topics which does hurt me n may be many fans in this forum

Even on Instagram that poor girl gets sometimes compared to maithli

Can we just leave her alone 😅

Yeah piya is the best the central character of pkyek followed by Abhay 🔥

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and she has fair share of mistakes which are hard to ignore and throw away the backstories of many characters especially abhay.

And i am sorry but dont even get me started on her “true love” for abhay. There are times when she is just a hypocrite. And she is oscilating between jeh and abhay. Thats what itritated me most. She is kissing jeh in one scene and next one her “true love” brought abhay back. Dont claim that true love when she is not able to decide what she truly feels. Indecisiveness in main character that last in almost all episode is not a attactive character trope. I hate that oscillation part. Her feelings kept changin depending on how abhay is behaving with her. If he is nice “i love you abhay”, if he is rude “you are killer abhay” and this goes on for entire post leap. If you do not like someones behaviour with you then either have guts to break it off and walk away and if you choose to accept it regardless then commit to it in all moments with all your heart. Every two episodes she will change her liking towards abhay and always based on how abhay behaved with her in previous interaction. That is not true love. That is no true feeling at all. That just means she likes abhay who is all nice and goody goody with her which he simply is not. She has fallen in love with this “imagination of abhay” that she has built in her own mind not abhay the character. Because abhay the character, after all, is very dark character with some kindness still left in him but in the end a vampire who doesnt even flinch when he kills deepanita or his own brother sid.

You need to just leave this forum people like you must not be even welcomed in this forum 😡

Who are you to even say that piyas love was not true ? Seriously? Even if she tried kissing jeh she didn't had any memory, she tried Living a normal life to move on and that's what Abhay too wanted for her but she n Abhay both failed behind the destiny n their own desire n love for each other ❤️

Jeh was an idiot who was hell bend interested to manipulate piya n separate abhiya

I don't know y people like u even loiter on this forum to create nonsense image of the character

What the hell do u want ?

Oh may be you want Abhay with maithli etc etc

Sorry that's not possible coz abhiya r booked now forever

Seriously people please tell this person to leave this platform atleast not pkyek forum

N when did her feelings oscillate ? Hahhh kuch bhi?

Just get out from here

N jiski itni side lerahe ho Abhay ki

Woh koi milk washed Nahi hai

Even he fell for piya for her looks describing Metz now tell will anyone not question his true love for piya ?

Even he loved maithli than came to piya

Atleast piya never loved anyone except Abhay

May be she was attracted /manipulated by jeh but in the end it was all Abhay n moreover I have never got a feeling that piya loved jeh she was just irritated by Abhays stupid repeated behaviour towards her so that's y she wanted to somehow move on n teach Abhay a lesson but her heart still rotated around Abhay

And even Abhay he could have easily chosen Metz despite of her evilness but never he chooses piya bcoz he somewhere genuinely fell for her ok

Stop over exaggerating the helpless scenerios in abhiyas life

Is there any couple in movies or even real life that never went through up n down seriously

Get a life n if u think like this about the leads seriously you need to leave this forum as quick as it is possible for you 🙄