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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Abie10


That was my main issue,why dint she think of her upbringing first? Gayu have always supported yash knowing that he will always take the right decision. Where was all the trust then? From a viewers POV wont I see her in a different view that her blood is overshadowing her 30yrs upbringing.

Edit: I think this the first time u replied to my post even when It's not DC thanks it means alot..



Gayatri never faults her own upbringing! That is part of her character and always has been. Remember how proud she was when Yash defended Palak and Payal's parvarish against Aarti's questioning? Where was her trust? She got emotional seeing Akash bleeding and that was her first thought... to protect him. I don't think her blood is overshadowing her love for Yash, it is the fact that Akash has been deprived of the upbringing that Yash had. So the question to me is more about upbringing than blood.

Really? The first time? 😛 That was totally unintentional. I think we must be online at different times.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse



@bold: But that is just it, what choice did she have? Akash was not going to stay unless all his demands were met. He was not in a rational mood to negotiate because for him it's all or nothing and he made that very clear to her. She made a decision on the spur of the moment, based on what she knew, because someone had to take decisive action. She knew she couldn't let Akash leave or it would do irrevocable damage to the sensitive thread that connected them now. With Yash, she knows their relationship can withstand such a sacrifice, like you said.




Gayatri could hv handled the decision in a more matured way like mayb asking SP to accept AKash as a son and give him the legitimate rights and his share in business ... but Yash is the one who got Akash home today and so in return Yash has his rights in this house too ... mayb equally distribute the rights 🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post samana ! No matter what it is still hard for me to accept G3's actions :| Humiliate one son just to fulfill another son's demands is just unforgivable for me ... =|
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06


Gayatri could hv handled the decision in a more matured way like mayb asking SP to accept AKash as a son and give him the legitimate rights and his share in business ... but Yash is the one who got Akash home today and so in return Yash has his rights in this house too ... mayb equally distribute the rights 🤔



*Sigh* I don't think anyone knows better than Gayatri what she can and cannot do with regards to SP. If she had tried to broach the subject with him at all he would have come out and said I don't care, let him leave! Because that is what SP wants and it was probably all it would take to send Akash packing anyway. So Gayatri would have achieved nothing by appealing to SP. And if she had favoured Yash even a little, it would have left Akash room to question her about favouritism.

I dunno, I agree she didn't handle the situation brilliantly, but I can't seem to think of a better way of doing it either given that she had no idea that Akash and Ishita were faking.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -MaanKiThush-

Great post samana ! No matter what it is still hard for me to accept G3's actions :| Humiliate one son just to fulfill another son's demands is just unforgivable for me ... =|



The way I see it, it's not "just to fulfill his demands." Fulfilling his demands itself is a means to a greater end, that is, integrating him into the family. I would say that she is hoping that when Akash realises that he is getting his fair share, he might feel inspired to give in return. She realises that it is not for her to decide what is fair for Akash, because whatever she thinks, he is only going to respond when he thinks it's fair.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Samana, great post. I like your comparison of Aarti and Palak, Ansh situation with Gayatri & Yash and Akash.

I do understand about the dilemma Gayatri is under, but in her hurry to make up for 30 years to Akash, she is damaging her attachment, respect, and love of 30 years for Yash in a rush with her anger, shouting, and name calling. No matter how much faith Yash has in her , does she really think that Yash will be able to recover from all the humiliation and pain she is causing him right now. Doesn't she know that Yash also just found out about his illegitimacy and is also very vulnerable??

This is where I have a problem with Gayatri.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Samana- as much as I agree with ur thoughts about gayatri, some of her words have been plain hurtful and unnecessary! For instance, she needn't have pointed out To yash that she had brought him up with love, and here he was, spilling the blood of "her" family! I can empathize with gayatri on the other points may be, but not this one! Yes, it was said in the heat of the moment, but ppl tend to speak what is in their heart in anger...If Gayatri genuinely wasn't preferring her own blood over Yash, she wouldn't have said that, no matter how angry she was. I am not saying, she is doing it deliberately to hurt Yash...she wouldn't think of that! In fact, she feels guilty the moment she says it, but she says it all the same.and that is my point!

I agree with u that when gayatri comes to love someone, she is fiercely loyal to him/her, but here, the question is not so much about loyalty as it is of love. Gayatri may forever remain loyal to yash, yet love Akaash more because he is her blood. Take the example of her relationship with Ansh or Aarti, true- she was loyal to them, she even supported aarti when Aarti had actually faltered, when she was actually wrong, because she loved her. But, when she heard her laughing with yash and the children, she cried out to Vidhi and said that she would rather die than live without her son and her grand daughters. She never mentioned Aarti or Ansh! That is my point!
If truly nothing changed for Gayatri as far as her feelings towards Yash was concerned, after the revealation, then during the cricket match, instead of telling Radha that she shouldn't be partial to "her" son, she would have told her to not try and act like Yash was her son...because, it didn't matter that she had borne him,what mattered more was the 30 years of nurture and love.
We might say that Gayatri understands Yash and can demand a sacrifice from him, which she can't from Akaash...likewise, it might also be seen as her taking yash for granted. While it is true, that people often take their loved ones for granted, it is also true, that u can't do that to people u love the most.

I liked the parallel that u have drawn between the debate situation and this...however, all I could think about was Yash's words in the same context..."In order to make one child win, u can't pull the other one back". And automatically, I remembered Gayatri's reaction. She was happy that Aarti had changed the speech, so that palak could win...because Palak was "her" grand daughter, and not Ansh. I don't think, she would have felt the same, if Palak was in place of Ansh ( the confident debator), and Ansh was in place of Palak ( the shy child).

Though Aarti and Gayatri's situations are almost the same ( of course, this situation is way way more grave), their ways of handling have been totally different. AArti did not change Ansh's speech, neither wanted him to lose, she just wanted Palak to participate and get over her fears, and would have been happy with either one's win. She didn't write Ansh's speech because of Palak's trust in her, not because she wanted Ansh to lose...she knew Yash was there for Ansh.


Gayatri , however has done just the reverse. She has done what yash strongly opposed. In order to be fair to one child, she has forced the other to abject humiliation, when in fact, none of the two children were at fault. I agree though, unlike Aarti, she didn't have the consolation that SP was there for Akaash, but then what about yash? she very well knew that Yash wouldn't let SP help him either...Yes, she needed to stop Akaash, and for that she agreed to his pleas. I also understand she wanted Akaash to feel like she loves him the most. I might also accept that she knew her relation with yash could withstand that sacrifice...but , the previous night, when she told Yash that he was spilling the blood of "her family members", she had already made him feel like an outsider. Its a separate issue that Yash shrugged that feeling off!



Edited by DMKJ_VB - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I feel bad for Yash but yes even more than that I truely do feel terrible for G3 , it has to be killing her to actually take sides between Yash and Aakash .
and sometimes I feel the words she uses is truely not meant for Yash but his father .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@padamvar and Ria: Thanks for your replies.

I guess the point I am trying to make here is not so much that Gayatri is faultless but that she is doing the best she can with what she knows. There are certain weaknesses in her character to be sure, the most prominent being that she speaks before she thinks and she speaks venomously enough to burn bridges without really considering the implications of her words on the present situation. Her mind is operating on two levels here, one is stuck in the past, thirty years ago where she has been transported by the revelation of this truth. She just found out what SP and Radha did so on one level, when she talks about her blood and her baby, she is picturing two actual babies, rather than a grown Yash and Akash. On the other hand, she is in the present and is aware of what has happened in the last thirty years, the most important thing being her relationship with Yash. In a way, it is as though Akash is that baby but Yash is the thirty year old man in all this confusion which is where most of the injustice of her acts come from. She simply doesn't know yet how to accept Akash-the-adult as a son.

The blood thing is something we are going to have to agree to disagree on because for me, that only goes so far as to explain why she is trying so hard with Akash... he was deprived of what he should have had. I don't think she resents Yash getting it in his place. When she stressed to Yash that she had lovingly brought him up, she was telling him to be a bigger man than Akash, who, in her eyes, has an excuse to behave the way he does having been deprived of her upbringing.

So if I say I can't fault Gayatri, it's not because I don't see all the things she is doing wrong, but because I can see how hard she is trying even though she is nowhere at fault as opposed to SP and Radha who come off looking almost innocent simply because they are choosing to keep quiet and do nothing about the situation they created. It would be a jarring character inconsistency if Gayatri was suddenly very fair and calm in this situation, when she has always been an emotional, bitter-tongued woman, who nonetheless loves from her heart. So is she doing the perfect job? Of course not! But is she doing the best she can when nobody else is willing to step up? Yes, and that is why I am with her on this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@padamvar and Ria: Thanks for your replies.

I guess the point I am trying to make here is not so much that Gayatri is faultless but that she is doing the best she can with what she knows. There are certain weaknesses in her character to be sure, the most prominent being that she speaks before she thinks and she speaks venomously enough to burn bridges without really considering the implications of her words on the present situation. Her mind is operating on two levels here, one is stuck in the past, thirty years ago where she has been transported by the revelation of this truth. She just found out what SP and Radha did so on one level, when she talks about her blood and her baby, she is picturing two actual babies, rather than a grown Yash and Akash. On the other hand, she is in the present and is aware of what has happened in the last thirty years, the most important thing being her relationship with Yash. In a way, it is as though Akash is that baby but Yash is the thirty year old man in all this confusion which is where most of the injustice of her acts come from. She simply doesn't know yet how to accept Akash-the-adult as a son.

The blood thing is something we are going to have to agree to disagree on because for me, that only goes so far as to explain why she is trying so hard with Akash... he was deprived of what he should have had. I don't think she resents Yash getting it in his place. When she stressed to Yash that she had lovingly brought him up, she was telling him to be a bigger man than Akash, who, in her eyes, has an excuse to behave the way he does having been deprived of her upbringing.

So if I say I can't fault Gayatri, it's not because I don't see all the things she is doing wrong, but because I can see how hard she is trying even though she is nowhere at fault as opposed to SP and Radha who come off looking almost innocent simply because they are choosing to keep quiet and do nothing about the situation they created. It would be a jarring character inconsistency if Gayatri was suddenly very fair and calm in this situation, when she has always been an emotional, bitter-tongued woman, who nonetheless loves from her heart. So is she doing the perfect job? Of course not! But is she doing the best she can when nobody else is willing to step up? Yes, and that is why I am with her on this.


Samana- on that, I absolutely agree!

What i am saying is that it is Gayatri's nature to be biased towards people she has a blood relation with, and well, we will agree to disagree on that point 😛

But as far as the rest is concerned, esp regarding SP and Radha- I am with U!

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