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jyoti06 thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#81
@Shali :Yup it seems Prashant is still Aarti's weakness and she wants him to return back ..so this is lcear sign that Prashant wont return now or else story wont proceed if Aarti runs back to Prashant 😆..he might return the day Aarti will decide to step onto her new life with Yash
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82
Once again...i am going to thank god for this thread...i was fired up and ready to throw something at my tv 😆...but reading this thread always allows me to find my sanity...what little there is that is

anyways i just want to share some thoughts...mostly they are agreements

I'd say that i totally agree that i am in love with the idea of love vs arrange marriage and that i think this show will give a new perspective to both. and the uniqueness in this show is hte fact that both stories will launch off simultaneously thus directly causing direct comparisions...i totally agree that altho all seems wedded bliss for prat and pari in the long haul we will see how preconceived notions of what post marriage life will be like will be bound to cause some MU b/w the two and tho the road premarriage was smooth sailing...the choppy waters shall show up post... and how it is the complete opposite for yash and arti that they are currently going through the stormy waters pre and beginning of their marriage but that wiht time they will develop understanding and friendship that will allow a constant steady love that will be a source of security and strenght...not a love of passion and youthfulness...

and fo sure...today we got to see that arpi's parents are simply pawns in the sindiya game of shadi and public service msg...it was clear that their grief was used to the benefit of whatever end game plan the sindiyas wanted...it was wonderful to see the spark in arti again...loved her scenes with shobz i think it just shows how truly they have come to love each other and how they understand the others feelings and htoughts without having to vocie them even when they havent admitted it to themseleves (shobz pointing out artis fears of marriage and aarti fightin for shobz rights for kanyadan)...

and as for the sindiyas this thread has got me thinking of some interesting thigns...i can so see them havin some part in arpis death...and you know what...altho if i was the cause of a death i'd try everything to erase the person an hte name of my misktae...i can see why they sing the arpi chant...in a way it seems they are atoning for their guilt by giving yash a new arpi to take the place of the old one...for it is obvious that AARTI means nothing to them...she's simply a woman "for hire" to the sindiyas to step in as arpita...so i def am thinking this may be the right track after all...

anyways thanks again all for calming down the hockey player in me😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Mansi :Thats a wonderful thought provoking take on different types of marriages and their success rate which is not guaranteed in either of the marriages 👏👏👏

I agree about Yash-Aarti marriage ..unless both talk to each other ,everyone will keep taking upperhand in their life even after marriage ...they might not b interested in this marriage but they need to realise that they r going to spend the rest of their lives together and even the kids r involved here ..so unless they themselves take few decisions and sort out few issues ,things might later turn disaster and that time Scindias or Dubeys or Arpita's parents wont come to sort out things between each other ...
About Pratik-Paridi marriage ,I felt its looking too good to b true ..both r sort of over-confident that nothing can go wrong ever in their relationship ...hopefully this over-confidence should not backfire later because I feel Paridi later might hv the upperhand in their relationship being a famous RJ and so Pratik being a man ,might not like it after a point unless he decdies to b a joru ka ghulam too like Paridi's dad 😆...what I mean to say is Paridi hv always seen her father doing joru ki ghulami of her mom ..so she might expect the same from Pratik too and if Pratik does not agree ,things might go wrong in their relationship
that way in AarYa relationship both hv no expectations from each other and r already assuming the worst about each other even before marriage 😆 ..this might result in both plesantly surprised post marriage once they start discovering the qualities of each other 😉
experience when she was never a widow and thats it ..Bua will get a golden egg here

@Jyoti:
You are right in saying that while Yash and Aarti are seeing the worst right up front, they have all the time to settle matters favourably later. Whereas Pratik-Paridi might have things too cozy now and later rifts may appear. But even so my point is, if Pratik-Paridi have later rifts it will be because of both of them and not because of the rest of the family meddling! Here Yash and Aarti's marriage is being meddled with like its everybody else's business except theirs.
In a way it looks like Papa Scindia thinks that just because Yash and Aarti are in a vulnerable situation (doing a punar vivah after the first marriage traumas) he can just ride roughshod over evertything and bend and twist them however he likes. Infact Papa Scindia is doing this to both Yash and Aarti, but in Aarti's case it seems a little more. Even Yash seems to have no control over his parents, they are treating his preferences as dust!
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jyoti06 thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
#84
@Mansi :Shobha was actually trying to make Aarti feel like a woman all over again who should enjoy the touch of her man again rather than feeling disgusted post this remarriage ...Shobha understood that Aarti has lost that whole emotion of feeling the passion or desire for a man again and mayb even if she feels it ,she will overshadow her feelings with denial and negative vibes ..So Shobha was trying to explain her that physical need is essential for any man and woman ..its natural and not any sin ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85
@Mansi: To me, Shobha was trying to explain to Aarti why she wasn't feeling the way she thought she ought to about Yash. It was because she had dabaoed this inner-woman of hers deep down and kept her in her own internal masouleum for Prashant. Yash manifests his mausoleum externally while aarti internalises her undying devotion to Prashant. Shobha is telling her to let her inner woman free so she can feel the desires, the chills and the shivers that are natural to both men and women.

After all this Aarti is going to be like, "Sorry, WHAT?!" when Yash tells her the truth about his fidelity to dead Arpita.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Mansi :Shobha was actually trying to make Aarti feel like a woman all over again who should enjoy the touch of her man again rather than feeling disgusted post this remarriage ...Shobha understood that Aarti has lost that whole emotion of feeling the passion or desire for a man again and mayb even if she feels it ,she will overshadow her feelings with denial and negative vibes ..So Shobha was trying to explain her that physical need is essential for any man and woman ..its natural and not any sin ...

Yes Jyoti, I got it when I saw that segment second time ... initially I got the wrong perspective!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Angake: I loved the conflict you chalked out between Aarti the mother (and I would add daughter to this ) and Aarti the woman. While the former is her role in relation to someone else, the latter is her own identity and that is much more difficult to define because the possibilities are endless.

I think on some level, AtM is punishing AtW for whatever it was that made Prashant leave her. Clearly if she loves him so ardently after all this time it means that she puts herself in the position of guilt for the failure of their relationship and for Ansh not having a father. Shobha in her talk is telling her to let AtW free and to stop punishing her for someone else's mistake.

And I completely agree that it is when AtM becomes one of the attributes of AtW rather than the entirety of her, Aarti will be able to forge her own identity and find true happiness and peace with herself, all of it.

@All: I thought it was interesting that Shobha's dialogues mirrored Pankaj's about the mind and heart doors and windows being shut. Personally, I think Aarti opened hers just a crack, shut it immediately and is complaining that the sunlight didn't come in! 😆 And Yash, well apparently he has really clean glass doors and windows so Aarti thinks there are none and Yash can see her looking at him . He is tapping on the glass to show her it's definitely there but she refuses to listen.

Oh dear.


Jyo, yes Aarti the Mother has completely accepted Yash. It is Aarti the woman who has issues.


Samana, to me it was very clear from the first episode that she holds herself guilty for Prashant leaving her and in the process Ansh not having a father. The keep thinking about Shagufta Ali's words that she must have lacked something that she could not hold onto Prashant. Similarly when they show her begging Prashant not to leave her, she tells him that she will do anything, she will change or something to that effect so that he will stay. So yes she very clearly blames herself for Prashant leaving.


Aarti has lots of insecurities about her self esteem as a woman but I always wondered why she was so desperate to think the worse about Yash. After today's episode I think I may have a slightly different take on her feelings for Yash.


Samana, you mentioned that she feels Yash's actions as normal but she is upset that she does not feel that way. I think a little differently. Her very initial dislike of Yash was due to Mansi's input and the bee incident but after that I think she feels a little too much for Yash on a physical level.


Like Yash she too has made a shrine of Prashant in her mind. And she strongly believes that while Prashant left her for someone else, she can never allow anyone else in Prashant's place. Yet, every time she is with Yash that belief is threatened. Today she tells Shobha that with Yash she feels like she is with a stranger yet the image that comes to her mind is of Yash carrying her. I think what she is really upset about is that she has feelings for Yash but she doesn't understand what these feelings are. She feels disloyal to Prashant by having these feelings for Yash. When Shobha tells Aarti that both a woman and a man has emotional and physical needs, Aarti is very uncomfortable. Emotionally, she certainly hasn't reached that stage with Yash but I think physically she is very aware of him and she feels guilty about it. Rather than analyze why she is feeling the way she does I think she finds it easier to heap accusations at Yash and brand him as a guy with loose scruples where women are concerned.



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Posted: 13 years ago
#88
umm just my two cents :

Am I the only one here, who feels that Mr Scindia has something to do with Arpita's death? or then there are many dark hidden skeletons in the cupboard of the Scindia's which we are yet to come across.

Also, am I the only one who thinks that Gayatri could have Alzheimers and this could be headed towards an Alzheimers track?

I loved the way Shobha counselled Aarti about the marriage. I loved the way how aarti spoke about shobha to arpita's mom. I didn't like the precap. I didn't like the way Mr Scindia was mentioning in the precap about aarti only caring about shobha and not loving or caring about his family or then arpita's parents. It actually made me think that he is forcing his decisions on to others. He doesnt like it, if his decisions are not adhered to or abided it. It seems to be a strict patriachical kind of family - where terms and conditions are dictated upon.

Clever marketing strategy by Zee to promote both PV and Don @ through Shahrukh. Idea was interesting but I must say, Shahrukh's part did look a bit badly shot! It was almost like they combined two things separately as one

Umm what else, bua and Yash bit seemed a bit fake. It wasnt too convincing - it wasnt convincingly at all- I mean what were they trying to potray and who was yash trying to convince - bua or himself? not clear on this part - sorry.

and of course this week there will be a lot of hungama - shaadi hogi bhi ya nahin - in aarti's world - but we all know this is punar vivah - no vivah and there will be no story ahead!! ok but I guess what they are trying to imply is that this will be match made in heaven eventually!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Mansi: To me, Shobha was trying to explain to Aarti why she wasn't feeling the way she thought she ought to about Yash. It was because she had dabaoed this inner-woman of hers deep down and kept her in her own internal masouleum for Prashant. Yash manifests his mausoleum externally while aarti internalises her undying devotion to Prashant. Shobha is telling her to let her inner woman free so she can feel the desires, the chills and the shivers that are natural to both men and women.

After all this Aarti is going to be like, "Sorry, WHAT?!" when Yash tells her the truth about his fidelity to dead Arpita.

Samana, yes, by the time Aarti frees her inner woman, I hope Yash does not bottle up his inner man! We will go crazy if one is open and the other is shut - in turns!
I suspect that in this marriage, when Yash starts feeling like Aarti is tempting him to forget Arpita, he may desperately bottle up his inner man!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: jyoti06

that way in AarYa relationship both hv no expectations from each other and r already assuming the worst about each other even before marriage 😆 ..this might result in both plesantly surprised post marriage once they start discovering the qualities of each other 😉

About Bua ,I feel she might b the first one to find out that Aarti is a divorcee since her nonstop widow taunts might raise doubts in Aarti's mind and she might ask Bua why is she telling her about a widow's experience when she was never a widow and thats it ..Bua will get a golden egg here



Gahhh Jyoti I just LOVED the point about ArYa having no/negative expectations as I feel like as humans we are more proned to be disappointed when we expect things as opposed to not having expectations at all or even having negative expectations have the potential of pleasantly surprising us.

About bua oh my god I think that is a very very very likely scenario as it would cause the most drama and I feel like it might happen just when things start to become light and happy and they would need something to cause drama? Or maybe they will keep the drama packed show and continue with that and have Bua find out at the beginning of the marriage.

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